Upcoming Legacy Leader Soundwave to be the "Earthrise" Mold

I really, really hope it's a slight remold to remove the forearm bits leftover from the Siege version.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I really, really hope it's a slight remold to remove the forearm bits leftover from the Siege version.

Agreed... Those could easily be replaced with actual forearm covers.
I'm a bit disappointed that it's not a new mold.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I really, really hope it's a slight remold to remove the forearm bits leftover from the Siege version.

I'd argue that the back is a worse offense than the leftovers.
My thoughts are: "Mkay that's nice and all, but how about giving us Soundblaster with that mold to go with Legacy Twincast?" Heck, even a clean refresh of SIEGE Soundblaster would excite me more.

Sabrblade wrote:(and, bafflingly, Cyberverse Shadow Striker) that they really G1-ified

It's not so baffling if you look at her as a twofer homage... and as an obvious pretool of Side Burn.

Sabrblade wrote:The Unicron Trilogy designs were always much closer to the blocky G1 aesthetic, so they never needed to be redesigned to the same extent as the Prime/Animated designs.

Bingo. G1, RiD 2001, and the Unicron Trilogy are all extremely close aesthetically, and thus blend perfectly as-is.

First-Aid wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm going by what KaPow explicitly said: Black Zarak was the main offender.

This honestly would not surprise me as BZ is very much a niche character. CYB Metroplex at least was featured in what is a relatively widely distributed cartoon series and likely has a much bigger following.

Mmm... I wouldn't say Black Zarak is niche. At least not to adult collectors. Masterforce is relatively popular, and his original figure has been a widely-talked-about holy grail to collectors in the fandom for decades. And he's a grail tainted by Gold Plastic Syndrome, making a more robust alternative that much more attractive - especially with a size upgrade into the bargain that would make him on par with Grand Maximus (and there so happened to be recent Overlord, God Ginrai, and Grand Max toys to go with; hell, LGEX Grand Max went from "trophy collectors bought then got bored with" to "in demand" because of Black Zarak). I think Kapow may have simply drawn the short straw in BZ's case.

o.supreme wrote:Cybertron Metroplex was a general retail release, so naturally more units were made than for a selects release. That said... Either Cyberton Metroplex is not as popular as some may claim (considering he is still clearance at 50% off nearly 2 years after his release, no other Titan has done that, aside from Trypticon, which was more of a distribution issue than anything else), or there just aren't as many TF Cybertron fans voting with their wallets, or in general.

Part of it is that Legacy Cybertron Metroplex is something of a mixed bag for Cybertron fans. The main appeal to him for us is that he's as close to show scale relative to full-size figures as possible for a retail toy, which is pretty cool, but he's also got some disappointments. The biggest one in my book is that Sparkdrinker's head doesn't split like in the show, and while DNA have (surprisingly) given us Drill Bit... they haven't seen fit to fix that issue yet, nor has anyone else. Another thing is that not everybody has the budget for two Titans in a year (or doesn't want to sacrifice other collecting to get two Titans) and he's had some notable competition: Black Zarak in 2022, and Nemesis in 2023.

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:Man, Legacy Armada Megatron looks great. The original Armada Megatron was my first Transformer and I remember it very fondly, but this one seems to blow it out of the water in terms of movement. I haven't bought a Transformers figure in many years, but this Megatron and the titan Tidal Wave really have me considering it.

As Sabrblade has pointed out, he's only actually better movement-wise with an upgrade kit. Out of the box? His front treads don't rotate like on the original. The inner arms have shoulder rotation, but only 90 degrees because of course the treads and the panels get in the way. So with that lack of shoulder rotation, his movement I'd argue is WORSE overall.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:That Armada Megatron brings me nothing but disappointment. I need that upgrade kit though. They really did neuter him bad

They really freaking did. The lack of full shoulder rotation is completely and totally inexcusable. With the fundamental tradeoff of the figure being giving up gimmicks for articulation... there is absolutely no excuse for frakking up a fundamental basic area of articulation like that - especially when it's one the original version did have. If not for there being inexpensive fix kits, he'd have gone right the hell back to Target the same day I got him and been my pick worst overall figure of 2023. The kits and the ease of freeing the turret salvage him enough that the shelf-clogging Putzwing restock nobody asked for gets the spot instead.
Which brings me to: then there's the idiotic blocking of the turret from being able to rotate 360 degrees (luckily, it's not too hard to open up the turret and cut off the offending tumor of plastic), the double launcher not being able to angle forward because the designer was only thinking of Full Blast Mode... And of course, losing those gimmicks is a definite bummer (and even if you wanted to mod them back in... with how they did the pwecious ankwe tiwts, a couple would be rather annoying).
It's a general problem with doing Unicron Trilogy updates - so many of them have more to lose and less to gain.

Sabrblade wrote:Luckily, the kit is a measly 10 bucks.

But if you live in the US you better find some place other than eBay to order it from. I wound up getting a Chinese-made alternative (which I'm still working on getting tightened) because for the past 2? 3? years eBay has for some reason been setting completely unreasonable international shipping charges for US purchases from UK merchant accounts. Where'd you get your SamMakesToys kit from?

Btw, expect a long rambly post from me about Legacy and my collecting it at some point over the weekend. I'll be trying to focus mainly on what I've enjoyed.

Apparently there is a rumor Soundwave is going to be in Marvel comic colors.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:(and, bafflingly, Cyberverse Shadow Striker) that they really G1-ified

It's not so baffling if you look at her as a twofer homage... and as an obvious pretool of Side Burn.

Except Cyberverse Shadow Striker has nothing to do with her Universe namesake, so there was no reason to try and shoehorn a Side Burn pretool into her that made her look nothing like her Cyberverse self in robot mode from the neck down, especially since Cyberverse Shadow Striker's cartoon model was already blocky like the G1 aesthetic.

It would be like if they had tried to also force a helicopter mode into the Legacy Bulkhead figure in an attempt to make him a dual update to both Energon Bulkhead and Prime Bulkhead, just because Energon Bulkhead was the first Bulkhead.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Mmm... I wouldn't say Black Zarak is niche. At least not to adult collectors. Masterforce is relatively popular,

You'd be surprised how many adults in this fandom have never watched Masterforce, especially when you consider how many kids who grew up on the first live-action movies, Animated, and Prime are either in or nearing adulthood right now. Prime alone started airing about 14 years ago, so those who saw it in their preteens or early teens are now at least in their Twenties. Not to mention all the folks who refuse to watch anything with only subtitles. Not everyone in this fandom is into hardcore anime.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:They really freaking did. The lack of full shoulder rotation is completely and totally inexcusable. With the fundamental tradeoff of the figure being giving up gimmicks for articulation... there is absolutely no excuse for frakking up a fundamental basic area of articulation like that - especially when it's one the original version did have.

Apparently, it was for the sake of cartoon-accuracy, since his shoulder treads tended to always stay vertical no matter what directions his arms moved and stretched in the show.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Which brings me to: then there's the idiotic blocking of the turret from being able to rotate 360 degrees (luckily, it's not too hard to open up the turret and cut off the offending tumor of plastic),

Not the first time Hasbro's altered the original function of an aspect of an existing design in an attempt to prevent Penis Mode.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:And of course, losing those gimmicks is a definite bummer

This one goes out not strictly to you, Zelda, but to everyone who's brought this up. I personally am fine with Legacy Armada Megatron nixing most of the original toy's gimmicks because, IMHO, most of those original gimmicks were either pointless at best or ludicrous at worst.

• The ramp with the capture claw in his leg? Nearly every single Mini-Con was too big for this feature.
• The extending compartment in his other leg? Also too small for most Mini-Cons.
• The "launch runway" for Mini-Cons on his shoulder? Couldn't actually "launch" anything.
• The three spring-loaded prongs with Mini-Con ports on his other shoulder? These did nothing.
• The "chomping action" of the horns? Made them easier to accidentally pop off the figure.
• The double-barreled missile launcher on his turret activated by a Mini-Con port? The gears inside kept getting stuck.
• The various sound effects? The darn thing would never SHUT UP at the slightest touch.
• The LED light that accompanied the sounds? Was never that impressive to begin with.
• Full Blast Mode? The main turret wasn't designed to even point forward, so this is something the Legacy toy actually got right! And the double missiles had to be adjusted halfway in order to get them to point forward, further messing with the spring-loaded gear mechanisms inside the toy.
• The shiv hidden inside his arm? Sure, it looked cool, but you couldn't actually DO much of anything with it due to the toy's severely limited articulation, and he never even used it in the show until the final episode.

I don't disagree that what they did to the Legacy figure's shoulders sucked, but even with the shoulders neutered before I got the upgrade kit, the Legacy figure was far FAR closer to what I had wanted out of the original figure as a kid, as I always felt the original figure was too ambitious for its own good, with too much raw spectacle over functional practicality.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:[Where'd you get your SamMakesToys kit from?

From Sam himself at TFCon Orlando 2023. He was there in person and was selling kits to those who wanted them. Luckily for me he accepted PayPal since it was at a point when I had run out of cash to spend.

He had also brought some of his custom-made figures to show off to folks in person. I briefly got to hold his fully-transformable (but also very fragile) Animated Mixmaster for a few seconds.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:(and, bafflingly, Cyberverse Shadow Striker) that they really G1-ified

It's not so baffling if you look at her as a twofer homage... and as an obvious pretool of Side Burn.

Except Cyberverse Shadow Striker has nothing to do with her Universe namesake, so there was no reason to try and shoehorn a Side Burn pretool into her that made her look nothing like her Cyberverse self in robot mode from the neck down, especially since Cyberverse Shadow Striker's cartoon model was already blocky like the G1 aesthetic.

Hmm. I'm probably wrong about the twofer homage part then, I forgot the original Roulette and SS changed the heads vs. However, as far as Side Burn goes... Cyberverse Shadow Striker has a clearly Side Burn inspired head, so there's that. It's also possible someone originally tried to have the pretool be Universe Shadow Striker, and either wires got crossed or some stupid higher up said "No, do Cyberverse Shadow Striker instead because she's more relevant."
In any case, I'd say it's Shadow Striker who's the shoehorn here since Side Burn is undoubtedly the mold's main raison d'etre. And in fairness, the original molds for the Autobot Brothers did kinda suffer a critical existence failure.

Sabrblade wrote:It would be like if they had tried to also force a helicopter mode into the Legacy Bulkhead figure in an attempt to make him a dual update to both Energon Bulkhead and Prime Bulkhead, just because Energon Bulkhead was the first Bulkhead.

No, I'd say it's closer to what was pulled with the Minerva-Elita hybridizing mess (only a bit more justified), or from a more positive perspective it could be compared to TR Black Shadow.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Mmm... I wouldn't say Black Zarak is niche. At least not to adult collectors. Masterforce is relatively popular,

You'd be surprised how many adults in this fandom have never watched Masterforce, especially when you consider how many kids who grew up on the first live-action movies, Animated, and Prime are either in or nearing adulthood right now. Prime alone started airing about 14 years ago, so those who saw it in their preteens or early teens are now at least in their Twenties. Not to mention all the folks who refuse to watch anything with only subtitles. Not everyone in this fandom is into hardcore anime.

Even if they've never watched Masterforce, many will still have heard of Black Zarak from fans who've been around longer due to the longtime status of his OG toy in the fandom. Probably more than will have heard of Cybertron Metroplex without having watched Cybertron.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:They really freaking did. The lack of full shoulder rotation is completely and totally inexcusable. With the fundamental tradeoff of the figure being giving up gimmicks for articulation... there is absolutely no excuse for frakking up a fundamental basic area of articulation like that - especially when it's one the original version did have.

Apparently, it was for the sake of cartoon-accuracy, since his shoulder treads tended to always stay vertical no matter what directions his arms moved and stretched in the show.

A pitiful excuse for gimping the articulation of a figure whose existence is mainly justified by articulation.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Which brings me to: then there's the idiotic blocking of the turret from being able to rotate 360 degrees (luckily, it's not too hard to open up the turret and cut off the offending tumor of plastic),

Not the first time Hasbro's altered the original function of an aspect of an existing design in an attempt to prevent Penis Mode.

It's not even very effective at that, so it's just dumb.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:And of course, losing those gimmicks is a definite bummer

This one goes out not strictly to you, Zelda, but to everyone who's brought this up. I personally am fine with Legacy Armada Megatron nixing most of the original toy's gimmicks because, IMHO, most of those original gimmicks were either pointless at best or ludicrous at worst.

• The ramp with the capture claw in his leg? Nearly every single Mini-Con was too big for this feature.

Ground-based ones could at least drive up and down it, and WFC Micromasters would probably play nicely with it.

Sabrblade wrote:

• The "launch runway" for Mini-Cons on his shoulder? Couldn't actually "launch" anything.

It couldn't spring-catapult them into the air, but you could certainly play out launching them with it manually. Rather like SIEGE shoulder launchers.

Sabrblade wrote:

• The three spring-loaded prongs with Mini-Con ports on his other shoulder? These did nothing.

They did do something: Give him more Mini-Con ports so he could attach more Mini-Cons for extra power (And weapons, depending on which you attached).

Sabrblade wrote:

• The "chomping action" of the horns? Made them easier to accidentally pop off the figure.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA, laughable point to bring up in comparison with this version. At least on the original, the horns actually tab in firmly. On this version, they're still detachable (instead of just being, say, a single molded piece held between the halves of the head) even though that gimmick isn't a thing anymore, and they don't stay pegged in super-well.

Sabrblade wrote:

• The double-barreled missile launcher on his turret activated by a Mini-Con port? The gears inside kept getting stuck.

1. Never had that happen myself 2. The spring-loaded deployment of the launcher isn't what I'm being particularly sad about losing, here. It's more the original's range of movement (and it would have been nice if the missiles were separate pieces).

Sabrblade wrote:

• Full Blast Mode? The main turret wasn't designed to even point forward, so this is something the Legacy toy actually got right!

Perhaps, but it's a small thing.

Sabrblade wrote:And the double missiles had to be adjusted halfway in order to get them to point forward, further messing with the spring-loaded gear mechanisms inside the toy.

1. Again, not something I've found to cause too much grief, at least not yet. 2. Since the double launcher on this isn't dealing with gears and springs, it only being able to swing as far as the Full Blast Mode position is just plain sloppy. Rather like Putzwing's barrel not actually allowing free elevating without modification

Sabrblade wrote:

• The shiv hidden inside his arm? Sure, it looked cool, but you couldn't actually DO much of anything with it due to the toy's severely limited articulation

He had full shoulder rotation and elbow joints, plus sideways arm movement thanks to transformation. I've found that to be plenty to slash with it. The only weakness of the original's arm articulation is a lack of bicep swivels. It was the legs that were the real stinkers articulation-wise (something for which I blame the stability complaints about Omega Prime).

And of course, there's his not having the Leader-1. Which leaves Full Blast Mode incomplete.

Sabrblade wrote:I don't disagree that what they did to the Legacy figure's shoulders sucked, but even with the shoulders neutered before I got the upgrade kit, the Legacy figure was far FAR closer to what I had wanted out of the original figure as a kid, as I always felt the original figure was too ambitious for its own good, with too much raw spectacle over functional practicality.

I've personally enjoyed messing around with its (well, Galvatron's) play features a fair bit and find them fun and functional. Whereas I found the Legacy version's neutered shoulder rotation without an upgrade kit severely limited the alternate playability it should have brought. And it was such an inexcusably dumb decision...

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:[Where'd you get your SamMakesToys kit from?

From Sam himself at TFCon Orlando 2023. He was there in person and was selling kits to those who wanted them. Luckily for me he accepted PayPal since it was at a point when I had run out of cash to spend.

Ah. That was very lucky for you, then.
Anyone know a place to order his stuff besides eBay? $35 shipping on a such a small thing is stupid.

EDIT: Forgot to say this last night. In fairness to Legacy Armada Megatron, with the shoulders de-neutered and the turret freed he's actually fairly fun. And I'm kinda hoping we see a Universe Megazarak redeco of him.

If we don't, I may get a second one for repainting purposes.

The Burning Megatron combo is going to be a bit sad tho, especially the aircraft carrier component (it's flat and lacks the claw!). Not as sad as it looks in the misconfiguration on the box (Oh Hasbro), but still.
I still feel like combining with Megatron should maybe have been left to a secondary smaller Tidal Wave figure; it's kind of annoying to have to buy a Titan for the combination (especially when his being a Titan means the combination has to be via watered-down half-dummy components).
Maybe we'll get 3P replacements for the battleship and aircraft carrier components... I'd say "Or maybe a 3P smaller Tidal Wave" but we all know 3P almost never do figures meant to go with the official ones anymore (at least, not non-MP official ones).

I'll wait for the Studio Series 86 version then.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I really, really hope it's a slight remold to remove the forearm bits leftover from the Siege version.

I wouldn't hold any expectations that they'll do anything significant in the way of remolding.

That's unfortunate about Soundwave, I was rally looking forward to a proper dedicated cassette player.
And it's to the point a new one is needed just as Blitzwing was and Astorain is, as ell as a few others. Looks like I'll be waiting even longer to add him to my collection. sigh....

As long as he doesn't have the yellowing problem, it'll all be good.

Disappointing, a new mold or different version wouldve been cool
I'll stick with netflix version then
Hopefully the cassettes are just re-releases or something

Till-all-R1 wrote:That's unfortunate about Soundwave, I was rally looking forward to a proper dedicated cassette player.

Could always take up kitbashing and give a G1 Soundwave the gift of leg articulation. He scales well with CHUG+ stuff, as do the G1 cassettes, and he could undoubtedly hold the Micromaster and Core-class versions too.
I do agree that a re-do would be better than the Netflix one since the Netflix one's arm transformation and lack of a backpack are dodgy. But OTOH the Netflix figure is something a lot of people have been clamoring for a rerelease of for three years, even with its flaws.
I would personally be more excited for a Soundblaster, whether from the Netflix tooling or just a clean rerelease of SIEGE version.

Till-all-R1 wrote:And it's to the point a new one is needed just as Blitzwing was and Astorain is, as ell as a few others. Looks like I'll be waiting even longer to add him to my collection. sigh....

1. I disagree with the idea that Legacy Putzwing was needed; in most respects he's a downgrade compared to TR (his shoulder articulation sucks, and unlike Armada Megs it wouldn't be simple to fix; plus they undermined the Xtreme Cartoon Accuracy by casting his clear plastic in red instead of blue) and if they were going to re-do any of them I think Octane would have been a better choice. 2. SIEGE Astrotrain's issues are way overblown IMO. I think he's overall fine. Not perfect, but definitely a nice toy.

Razorbeast88 wrote:Disappointing, a new mold or different version wouldve been cool
I'll stick with netflix version then

There's many who would probably say "Lucky you" for already having the Netflix one, so this is mainly for their benefit.

Am I the only one who want a repaint/remold of leader ER Doubledealer into Machine Wars Soundwave? His bird mode could even be Lazerbeak for some added craziness.

Maybe as a Select or some other "exclusive" line?

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Mmm... I wouldn't say Black Zarak is niche. At least not to adult collectors. Masterforce is relatively popular,

You'd be surprised how many adults in this fandom have never watched Masterforce, especially when you consider how many kids who grew up on the first live-action movies, Animated, and Prime are either in or nearing adulthood right now. Prime alone started airing about 14 years ago, so those who saw it in their preteens or early teens are now at least in their Twenties. Not to mention all the folks who refuse to watch anything with only subtitles. Not everyone in this fandom is into hardcore anime.

Some of us tried (retroactively). But I couldn't get more than two episodes into BW II and about six episodes into Headmasters. They are just not the same shows as Mainframe or Sunbow, respectively.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Mmm... I wouldn't say Black Zarak is niche. At least not to adult collectors. Masterforce is relatively popular,

You'd be surprised how many adults in this fandom have never watched Masterforce, especially when you consider how many kids who grew up on the first live-action movies, Animated, and Prime are either in or nearing adulthood right now. Prime alone started airing about 14 years ago, so those who saw it in their preteens or early teens are now at least in their Twenties. Not to mention all the folks who refuse to watch anything with only subtitles. Not everyone in this fandom is into hardcore anime.

Some of us tried (retroactively). But I couldn't get more than two episodes into BW II and about six episodes into Headmasters. They are just not the same shows as Mainframe or Sunbow, respectively.

That is entirely true.
Appart watching Masterforce, an excellent series that can stand on its own, I never had any interests in watching The Headmasters, Victory, Beast Wars Neo, and the like. Despite collecting some of their toys and loving them.

My friend just LOVE the lore and he's currently watching Headmasters. He find it weird that the dubbed voices are now completely different from the originals (he just can't any subtitles and he don't watch anime at all). Even the personalities of some classic bots are not the same, like for Soundblaster and Twincast VS Soundwave and Blaster. He told me that the overall feel is definitely different from "the first 3 years" as he calls it.

-Kanrabat- wrote:My friend just LOVE the lore and he's currently watching Headmasters. He find it weird that the dubbed voices are now completely different from the originals (he just can't any subtitles and he don't watch anime at all). Even the personalities of some classic bots are not the same, like for Soundblaster and Twincast VS Soundwave and Blaster. He told me that the overall feel is definitely different from "the first 3 years" as he calls it.

Just goes to show how incompetent the Malaysian dub was. There was next to no emotion put into any of those voices. Everyone sounds the same, and nothing like how any of them are supposed to.

Sabrblade wrote:Just goes to show how incompetent the Malaysian dub was. There was next to no emotion put into any of those voices. Everyone sounds the same, and nothing like how any of them are supposed to.

It was the 1990's very early 2000's, when no one made any efforts to dub anime. At least the dubbers didn't pushed current day politics nor current day memes back then.

This make most of the old AND new English dubs unwatchable.
Appart Ghost Stories. There's only ONE version to watch and it's the English dub.

Regardless, I still love to watch old late 1970s / early 1980s anime dubbed in French. These French voices are so nostalgic for me.

After fiddling around with the ultra expensive DK-42 upgrade kit got L.A. Prowl, I came to the conclusion that L.A Prowl that is the most fit to be a fembot. Yeah, he's shorter and thicker than the original Animated Prowl, but there's one thing going for L.A Prow:

CHILD BEARING HIPS. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Seriously.
Animated Prowl is slender, but he have the tiniest hips ever so his overall silhouette is still masculine.
L.A Prowl, however, have an hourglass silhouette. This mean just a simple head-swap will be enough to turn him into her.



Oh, and is that kit worth it?
It's too expensive but it is solid and bring the look of Samurai Prowl to the modern age. However, if you position the shoulderpads as stated in the instructions, like the original Animated one, meaning passing the shoulderpads bars under his arms, it completely brick his arms in a single position. By passing the bars OVER his shoulder and pointing the shoulderpads up, not only does it look good, but the arms are unrestricted.

I'll just stick with the original, instead.

-Kanrabat- wrote:That is entirely true.
Appart watching Masterforce, an excellent series that can stand on its own, I never had any interests in watching The Headmasters, Victory, Beast Wars Neo, and the like. Despite collecting some of their toys and loving them.

My thoughts on BWII and Neo were the same as when I read The Gathering/Ascending. The non-show toyline was wasted on this??

The time has long passed for a proper utilisation of Cybershark, Transquito or Polar Claw. So it's a shame they were put into something that didn't understand the Beast Era on a fundamental level. Much like IDW's latter Beast Wars series.

Still, these Tidal Wave developments give me the slightest hope for a Tidal Whale retool someday. Either official or 3P.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:That is entirely true.
Appart watching Masterforce, an excellent series that can stand on its own, I never had any interests in watching The Headmasters, Victory, Beast Wars Neo, and the like. Despite collecting some of their toys and loving them.

My thoughts on BWII and Neo were the same as when I read The Gathering/Ascending. The non-show toyline was wasted on this??

The time has long passed for a proper utilisation of Cybershark, Transquito or Polar Claw. So it's a shame they were put into something that didn't understand the Beast Era on a fundamental level. Much like IDW's latter Beast Wars series.

Still, these Tidal Wave developments give me the slightest hope for a Tidal Whale retool someday. Either official or 3P.

Tidal whale would be so sick. Definitely wouldn't work as a retool tho, needs it's own mold

Sign me up for Tidal Whale. Would also love a leader or commander class Torca...

Sabrblade wrote:I'll just stick with the original, instead.

Same. the OG is still an all-timer, and that kit is both expensive and has an ugly helmet

Legacy Medix designer post:

https://www.instagram.com/p/C2gbilKM7SF/

Autobot down! I repeat, Autobot down! I need Medix the Doc-Bot to the rescue,stat! Yes yes folks, another addition to the Rescue bot family is here!
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As most of yall know, doing medics\scientists for Walgreens exclusives were really kicked off with the Titan Wars Brainstorm figure. I always loved having medics in my collection, the problem is, there really isnt many out there in Transformer land. So, when the opportunity arose where we needed an item quick, I dove into the molds that were available and put this unique build together to resemble the Playschool Heroes Medix toy. But as some of you can guess I had the Botcon version marinating on my brain module.
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Once I put together the prototype build featured in the photos, the whole team fell in love with him. He gives such a gentle and caring vibe when used in certain poses, but don’t you even dare try crossing this bot, this bad larry is combat stacked, weapons out, battle mask ready!
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There is a certain versatility to this guy that keeps me going back to him. He maintains the right amount of chonk that I enjoy on certain bots. I had other options I put together for this slot, and honestly, I really hope some of those come out.

Razorbeast88 wrote:Tidal whale would be so sick. Definitely wouldn't work as a retool tho, needs it's own mold

Highly doubtful HasTak would ever okay a new mould for a one-off Titan. Yet if they can give Shockwave a "submarine" mode. A retool of Tidal Wave would be more than enough. The outer kibble would be the only thing objectively separating the two.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Tidal whale would be so sick. Definitely wouldn't work as a retool tho, needs it's own mold

Highly doubtful HasTak would ever okay a new mould for a one-off Titan. Yet if they can give Shockwave a "submarine" mode. A retool of Tidal Wave would be more than enough. The outer kibble would be the only thing objectively separating the two.

Yeah a new mold isn't likely
The outer kibble will make robot mode work but it still needs to turn into a whale lol unless you don't care about the alt mode

Razorbeast88 wrote:Yeah a new mold isn't likely
The outer kibble will make robot mode work but it still needs to turn into a whale lol unless you don't care about the alt mode

Hence the specific Shockwave example. Turn aircraft carrier upside down. Add fins and give the kibble some added joints and you can get both the Beast Mode and the Tank.



The fact that he is a Partsformer would make the transformations even easier to achieve.

Thanks to Sonic Bomber Core, we have images of deluxe Shard, the next rock lord themed weaponizer in the Legacy United line. And he seems to be the best so far, transforming into a helicopter. We also have our first look at "Cyberverse" Chromia which reuses the Animated Prowl body. For those wondering, Cyberverse Chromia's alt mode was more similar to her IDW look, so this toy ends up not looking accurate in the least.

Let us know what you think about both new toys!

WASPINATOR COLORS!!!

That is so ridiculously cool, wow

A ROCK-COPTER.

A copter made out of ROCK.

In fluo booger-puke colors.

So 1990s!

And I freaking like it.

Also, that's totally UT Jetfire's face.

Here are a few photos of Legacy Chromia.
These aren’t of a custom. They’re supposedly what we’ll see at retail.

Sowndwave76 wrote:Here are a few photos of Legacy Chromia.

Cyberverse Chromia, specifically, rather than G1 Chromia.

Interesting. I like the headsculpt, it looks pretty good
And I like the colors on her, they came out nicely too

I think I'll pass on this because I don't want it enough, nor am I too attached to the character. But still pretty cool

The name of the new Armorizer is Shard.

Sabrblade wrote:The name of the new Armorizer is Shard.

Noiceeee

Yes, I'll probably get this, but never Legacy Animated Prowl. Another so-close-yet-so-far situation that can't help but remind me of the frustration evoked when placing Thrilling 30 Chromia and CW/UW Afterburner next to each other.

And while Shard's unique crystal-copter mode should make me want to display it next to Solitaire or Bishop, it's suddenly making me want to track down that Marvel Legends Crystar figure.

"And then we can smoke this dude's whole planet!"

Other than that horrible seafoam green, that's actually a pretty good Chromia figure. I get that it's unpaintable plastic, but why THAT color, that doesn't even match her color scheme?

And I'm not a fan of the Rock lord style characters. This new one, especially, doesn't look like rock, it looks like feathers, or a mop head.

Bounti76 wrote:And I'm not a fan of the Rock lord style characters. This new one, especially, doesn't look like rock, it looks like feathers, or a mop head.

Oh yeah, now that you mention it, Shard does look a lot like AofE Slash!



And it also dawned on me who this Chromia reminds me of, at least in bike mode: Quickslinger, the Cybertron comic character that no one did any requested customs of!



Well, now I'll just sell my spare Ransack and buy Legacy Chromia. Got other customs I've been putting off for decades...

I don't know about you folks, but the thickness of Chromia's thighs is what sold me.

In all seriousness, I am actually excited to get these figures.

That helicopter could be a really cool design without all the geological greeble. As-is, looks like some weird expansion of the '07 Movie protoform figure concept.

Shard looks great. I hope they keep doing more colourful rock guys, rocks come in all kinds of crazy colors, there's no need to stay gray and brown. I hope they do a repaint of Magneous in more vibrant colors.

SUPER in love with the rocky aesthetic, I insist that these guys and the Fossilizers should have gotten their own toyline and TV show, could have been the new Beast Wars, innovation-wise, if they'd gone all in like that.

I'm not yet convinced that that Chromia is a real leak, looks like a custom, with the paints behind her(!) and all.

Rtron wrote:I'm not yet convinced that that Chromia is a real leak, looks like a custom, with the paints behind her(!) and all.

The god tier leaker himself, JTPrime17, confirmed it's real.

"It’s not a custom. This is what we will be seeing at retail."

https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-22039074

ScottyP wrote:That helicopter could be a really cool design without all the geological greeble. As-is, looks like some weird expansion of the '07 Movie protoform figure concept.

Totally agree. I love the swords, but I don't know how I feel about a flying rock. I'm sure I'll like it more in person. It's one of those rare cases where I think the figure would at least look better in clear emerald green plastic, though it would probably also be incredibly fragile over time.

Chromia looks good, I like that she isn't in identical colors as the previous ones. She's practically a new character and probably how I'll use her. She really only looks like Cyberverse Chromia is the face colors and nothing else.

Emerje

Shard looks like Waspinator

M'eh. Both of these are an easy pass. Obviously, TFA Prowl makes a terrible Chromia. And the rock themed weaponizers? They don't look like rocks at all, they look like vehicles covered with chewing gum and french fries. I guess if you're 'in' to that sort of thing, then it's a dream come true. But I can do without, thanks.

Glad I bought that T30 Chromia, looks more the part than this. Still open of a different redeco of that Prowl mold so I can experience it, but this aint it.

Rtron wrote:I'm not yet convinced that that Chromia is a real leak, looks like a custom, with the paints behind her(!) and all.

That's just the leaker messing with people. You'll notice that the blue is the plastic colour on the figure and not paint.

Also, after a few mistakes in the past, I would not have posted this if there was a possibility it was a custom or something unconfirmed.