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USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters

Transformers News: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters

Wednesday, April 1st, 2009 8:23PM CDT

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USA Today and Yahoo.com have posted articles with a couple of new images and a rundown of some of the main characters that will appear in "Revenge of the Fallen" Check out the news articles by clicking the links below:

CAUTION: POSSIBLE SPOILERS!

The information from each source is different so make sure you check out both websites!

Yahoo.com :

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/need-to ... obots.html

ravage

USA Today:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/new ... look_N.htm
USA Today: First Look at ROTF Characters



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Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905458)
Posted by Skowl on April 1st, 2009 @ 8:27pm CDT
That's strange...

Why is Demolishor no longer listed as a Constructicon? And who is Overload?

No mention of the two other fembot-bikes either. We know Chromia is one... What the hell is going on?

Also, "The Doctor" is a silly name.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905460)
Posted by Brakethrough on April 1st, 2009 @ 8:33pm CDT
I think we've already seen Scalpel's toy. "The Doctor" is probably a case of code names, old information, and the media not having a full load of bricks concerning the film.

I love the bit at the end about making Spielberg swear.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905463)
Posted by *Soundwave* on April 1st, 2009 @ 8:46pm CDT
OMG! I love that new picture of Ravage! He looks like he'll be amazing in the movie. The Doctor, as it is called, looks too much like the recently revealed Scalpel, we'll see.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905472)
Posted by Wheeljack144 on April 1st, 2009 @ 9:01pm CDT
could be April Fools joke. We've seen the toy model for Devastator...there were 6 bots. And Demolisher = Scavenger.

Plus, there are other motorcylces. We've seen them....
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905473)
Posted by travicon on April 1st, 2009 @ 9:01pm CDT
cool stuff... i cant wait to see it!
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905474)
Posted by Cryo Prime on April 1st, 2009 @ 9:05pm CDT
can't be complete i count like 11, what i assume to be protoforms, in the trailer.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905475)
Posted by Cryo Prime on April 1st, 2009 @ 9:07pm CDT
Brakethrough wrote:I think we've already seen Scalpel's toy. "The Doctor" is probably a case of code names, old information, and the media not having a full load of bricks concerning the film.

I love the bit at the end about making Spielberg swear.



that's exactly what i thought when i saw the name "Doctor"
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905476)
Posted by dragons on April 1st, 2009 @ 9:08pm CDT
oh thats great the scaple figure turns out to be real not a scout class thats just strange what can he do in this versoin.?

should be intersting to find out
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905478)
Posted by Mathew.Henderson on April 1st, 2009 @ 9:23pm CDT
Something Is defiantly Up. I mean we all KNOW Sideswipe is gonna be in the Movie, but he is left out. I mean we've seen the trailer with him, we've seen the toy....While I don't think it's an April Fools Joke, Bay is still holding back big time.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905479)
Posted by DavidT on April 1st, 2009 @ 9:30pm CDT
Mathew.Henderson wrote:Something Is defiantly Up. I mean we all KNOW Sideswipe is gonna be in the Movie, but he is left out. I mean we've seen the trailer with him, we've seen the toy....While I don't think it's an April Fools Joke, Bay is still holding back big time.


Sideswipe is mentioned... he under "new recruits" :grin:



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Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905480)
Posted by Rocketeer on April 1st, 2009 @ 9:30pm CDT
Does anyone else wonder why Wheelie is listed as a Decepticon?
In the first Yahoo article there, that is.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905483)
Posted by St. Even on April 1st, 2009 @ 9:40pm CDT
"In the spirit of 'more than meets the eye,' Ravage isn't just lethal because of his sharp teeth," says screenwriter Alex Kurtzman. "There's actually another skill set Ravage has that didn't exist before, so there's going to be a surprise for fans."


Surprised this has not been mentioned. I have been posting for months now that Ravage turns into Megatron's right arm/cannon.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905496)
Posted by Magnus Minor on April 1st, 2009 @ 10:19pm CDT
secret power, awesome
Reboot refrince, awesome
The rest, awesome
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905497)
Posted by rpetras on April 1st, 2009 @ 10:21pm CDT
Rocketeer wrote:Does anyone else wonder why Wheelie is listed as a Decepticon?
In the first Yahoo article there, that is.


He's listed as a Decepticon in both articles.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905510)
Posted by Mechabreaker on April 1st, 2009 @ 11:01pm CDT
rpetras wrote:
Rocketeer wrote:Does anyone else wonder why Wheelie is listed as a Decepticon?
In the first Yahoo article there, that is.


He's listed as a Decepticon in both articles.


Ah, but WHEEL-E Five will end up as an autobot sometime during the movie, on his toy bio, it mentions that he is a side-changer.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905512)
Posted by Warbreaker on April 1st, 2009 @ 11:14pm CDT
Mechabreaker wrote:
rpetras wrote:
Rocketeer wrote:Does anyone else wonder why Wheelie is listed as a Decepticon?
In the first Yahoo article there, that is.


He's listed as a Decepticon in both articles.


Ah, but WHEEL-E Five will end up as an autobot sometime during the movie, on his toy bio, it mentions that he is a side-changer.


I was just about to say that myself! Probably the news sites just didn't know or were told that, or simply couldn't be bothered to post that tidbit of info up. Scalpel looks like a scaaary little terror there. Now I really wonder who the pretender "Alice" will be here. Sigh, can't wait for the movie, so many more months left.....
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905519)
Posted by Autobot Firestorm on April 1st, 2009 @ 11:38pm CDT
Couple of quick thoughts/theories based out of the USA Today article...

The article states (after quoting Bay, which is somewhat misleading) "Like the Insecticons, which were giant bugs in the original series and Hasbro toy line, but are now tiny creepy-crawly infiltrators."

At 1:20 in the trailer, Sam looks like he's pulling apart a flying insect, and it appears to be mechanical. Has anyone else caught this? I'm curious how big of a role Insecticons play in the movie.


Also the article quotes, "In the spirit of 'more than meets the eye,' Ravage isn't just lethal because of his sharp teeth," says screenwriter Alex Kurtzman. "There's actually another skill set Ravage has that didn't exist before, so there's going to be a surprise for fans."

What are the chances that Ravage turns out to be the Pretender that was previously rumored? I was thinking there was a video posted where students are fleeing a scene where a blonde girl was walking after them....


Any potential with these theories?
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905520)
Posted by Autobot Firestorm on April 1st, 2009 @ 11:42pm CDT
Skowl wrote:That's strange...

Why is Demolishor no longer listed as a Constructicon? And who is Overload?

No mention of the two other fembot-bikes either. We know Chromia is one... What the hell is going on?

Also, "The Doctor" is a silly name.



I think these articles are being fed with old information and/or mis-information. Much of it seems like old news......
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905524)
Posted by oldskooltf on April 1st, 2009 @ 11:49pm CDT
Yes... why isn't Demolisher listed as a Constructicon? I kind of agree with Scavenger = Demolisher by what I saw in those leaked pics of his toy in vehicle mode. Why did they do that? Why not just call him Scavenger??? I really hope this doesn't turn into a Brawl/Devastator confusion. Ugh.

I know Bay is criticized left and right on many fan sites. I for one actually like what he's done... but my one gripe is this name confusion that I think is at least partially his fault. Like him calling Scorponok "Scorpinox" and him not remembering what Frenzy's name was. I also recall watching one of those behind the scenes parts of the BluRay disk where he called Blackout "Blackhawk".

I attribute this Brawl/Devastator confusion to him and Demolisher/Scavenger confusion to him too -- and the fact that he chose Bonecrusher as the name of the "Buffalo" military vehicle in TF1 and now it can't be used for a constructicon in TF:RotF. If he just would have chosen a different name like Onslaught or even Crumplezone or make him called "Demolisher", then we'd have Bonecrusher for a Constructicon name and perhaps Scavenger would be Scavenger and not Demolisher -- I know I'm a G1 fanboy... and I'll get over it and still enjoy this new movie. I'm just ranting on my one beef with Bay. It's seriously my only real issue with him.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905526)
Posted by DavidT on April 1st, 2009 @ 11:54pm CDT
Autobot Firestorm wrote:What are the chances that Ravage turns out to be the Pretender that was previously rumored? I was thinking there was a video posted where students are fleeing a scene where a blonde girl was walking after them....


The information states that Ravage will not be able to speak like other Transormers do, nor will any other animalistic Transformer. So I don't believe the Pretender is Ravage.


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Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905532)
Posted by Rodimus2006 on April 2nd, 2009 @ 12:32am CDT
People wondering who Overload is or where the name came from look at Transformers Armada towards the end of it and you will see that Overload is when Optimus Prime power links and Combines with Over Load making optimus Super Powerful it is like a Huge Cannon on his shoulders this dosent happen until the end of Armada during the Fighting with Galvatron and Unicron attacking Cybertron.


Also Mudflap is from Cybertron he was Landmanine's student and also best friend he turned decipticon for awhile but thanks to Landmine and the others he changed back to being a Autobot once again.


Jolt is from Transformers Armada and also Cybertron he is diffrent in both shows one he was a Minicon who power linked with Hot Shot.
2. He was the Leader of the Mini-Con team and also a intellegence officer gathering info on the Seal of Antlantis and the Omega Lock located on Earth.

Demolisher was in all 3 parts of the Unicron Trilogy one of the few who was and survived until he got upgraded to Snow Cat.


So it seems to mee that Mr. Bay and the people who come up with the bots names have been watching the Previous Unicron Trilogy and the Old Generation one Movies and series which is were most of these come from minus a few new additional characters such as "The Doctor and the Fallen he was never in a Cartoon Series but he was in fact in the IDW comics and he is one of the Acients from the Beginning of Time and also one of the Original 13 transformers.


Arcee is from G1

Wheelie is from G1

Jetfire has been widely used in a bunch of TF shows he and Optimus will be combing or Power Linking in the movie most likely to combat the Fallen or Devestator but unkown which style it will be like Jet-Convoy unkown I say it will be slightly diffrent cause of the way the bots diffrent from the animated counterparts.

Chromia is a a new character

Sideways was was in Armada and he was the Herald for Unicron or Unicron himself taking on a Robotic form and thus became The Side ways we know his ALT Form is that of a Crotch Rocket with a Huminoid Rider when he transformers he can change is isignia at will to trick his enemies to even futher confusion he is a Master Tactician and excellent at playing mind games but unfortunatly Sideways is not the Sharpest Knife in the drawer and that is one of biggest down falls that and he is somewhat of a Klutz also.

The Doctor is a new Character I dont think that is his real name maybe a code-name and they havent released his real name as of yet.

I think this character will be a Perceptor type character really intellegent.


Skids is a new Character also

They forgot to mention about Sideswipe the Bicentineal Corvette he wasnt seen on the list he is an Autobot he has Swords for weapons.


He was in Generation 1 mostly just in the 1st 2 seasons.



There I hope that clears away some of the confusion.

Most of these names are from The Cartoons looks like the been getting ideas from that such as Power Linking and Devestator.


A Few character never been in TF as of yet and were created soley for this movie.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905533)
Posted by DavidT on April 2nd, 2009 @ 12:44am CDT
Did you read the USA Today article??? :roll:


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Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905542)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on April 2nd, 2009 @ 1:28am CDT
The doctor? sounds like a bad james bond villan. Still not liking ravage. It looks like a facehugger impregnated beast wars Ravage and this was the result. If they make a toy its so getting impaled by one of my Predator figures.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905544)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on April 2nd, 2009 @ 1:47am CDT
DavidT wrote:
Autobot Firestorm wrote:What are the chances that Ravage turns out to be the Pretender that was previously rumored? I was thinking there was a video posted where students are fleeing a scene where a blonde girl was walking after them....


The information states that Ravage will not be able to speak like other Transormers do, nor will any other animalistic Transformer. So I don't believe the Pretender is Ravage.


Well, assuming that the not talking part is 100% correct, I still wouldn't rule out him being a pretender.

I could see sexy, predatory, deadly woman being even scarier if you never hear her speak.

On the other hand, I thought a prior image depicted Ravage as much larger than human size, too large to compress down small enough to fit inside a fleshy shell or a hologram. I don't remember where I saw that shot though, so maybe not.

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Rodimus2006 wrote:There I hope that clears away some of the confusion.

Most of these names are from The Cartoons looks like the been getting ideas from that such as Power Linking and Devestator.

A Few character never been in TF as of yet and were created soley for this movie.


What confusion?

Anyway, I hate to be Captain Obvious, but someone who at least tries to be nice might as well mention it:

Rodimus2006 wrote:People wondering who Overload is or where the name came from look at Transformers Armada towards the end of it and you will see that Overload is when Optimus Prime power links and Combines with Over Load making optimus Super Powerful it is like a Huge Cannon on his shoulders this dosent happen until the end of Armada during the Fighting with Galvatron and Unicron attacking Cybertron.


The name Overload was originally used in 1989 for a micromaster. Of course, like the Armada bot of the same name, he was an Autobot, so the relevance to the movie character is... nil?

Jolt is from Transformers Armada and also Cybertron he is diffrent in both shows one he was a Minicon who power linked with Hot Shot.
2. He was the Leader of the Mini-Con team and also a intellegence officer gathering info on the Seal of Antlantis and the Omega Lock located on Earth.


The first use of the name Jolt was for one of four laser-rods released for Generation 2 in 1994 (the others being Volt, Electro, and Sizzle). I believe the same character was released as a Wal-Mart exclusive redeco of Cybertron Crosswise(?). He was a Decepticon though, so again, probably no relevance to the movie character. Also his alternate mode was a lot cooler.


the Fallen he was never in a Cartoon Series but he was in fact in the IDW comics and he is one of the Acients from the Beginning of Time and also one of the Original 13 transformers.


The Fallen's only other appearance (AFAIK) has been in Dreamwave's War Within: Dark Ages series. I don't believe that he has appeared in any IDW comics.


Jetfire has been widely used in a bunch of TF shows he and Optimus will be combing or Power Linking in the movie most likely to combat the Fallen or Devestator but unkown which style it will be like Jet-Convoy unkown I say it will be slightly diffrent cause of the way the bots diffrent from the animated counterparts.


Jetfire's first appearance on screen was in the first season of G1 (though he was called Skyfire), where he was Starscream's friend until he was stranded on Earth. In the original Marvel comics he was a Decepticon drone until Buster Witwicky reprogrammed him, and in the much later DW comics, he was a Decepticon that switched sides. Given the nature of the character described for the movie, it seems that he has slightly more in common with these uses of the name than the uses presented in Armada (similar only in that he combined with Optimus), Energon (similar only in that he could combine with someone), or Cybertron (similar only in that... well, not really similar at all).

Chromia is a a new character


Chromia appeared in one episode of the first season of the original series along with Elita-1, Firestar, and Moonracer. I don't recall if there have been any American toys released with the name, but I believe there have been some Japanese ones.

The Doctor is a new Character I dont think that is his real name maybe a code-name and they havent released his real name as of yet.

I think this character will be a Perceptor type character really intellegent.


We already saw this character in package, labeled as "Scalpel". Could be the articles are wrong about his name, but I have a feeling "The Doctor" will be a nickname used on screen (perhaps by the humans) or a situation similar to the last movie's Devastator/Brawl contradiction.

I doubt that the torture master will be all that similar to Perceptor, unless we're talking Shattered-Glass Universe.

Skids is a new Character also


The character is probably as new as Mudflap, but the name was used in G1. The only noteworthy thing about him is, IIRC, in the G1 comics he trapped Ravage at the bottom of a well, and left him there for a long, long, long time.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905546)
Posted by eclipse_prime on April 2nd, 2009 @ 2:01am CDT
i was think maybe demolishor gets kill at the beginning of the movie
isn't he the one fighting the autobots in the trailer maybe he doesn't make it to the end of the movie so the other constructicons are force to form devestator without him those making devestator weaker then what his supposed to be. :-? :???:
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905552)
Posted by astig on April 2nd, 2009 @ 2:43am CDT
hmmm...in the trailer, it might not be megatron's hand pinning sam to ground after all. it could be this "the doctor" and his scalpel buddy..hmmm..."frenzy-like" drones. :-?
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905573)
Posted by Starfield on April 2nd, 2009 @ 5:57am CDT
On the Yahoo news article, if you click on the image you get this poster that looks pretty official: http://l.yimg.com/img.omg.yahoo.com/omg/us/img/83/a2/9019_3705651155.jpg?y=660&x=616&q=75&n=0&sig=Zvqw8NxIBWHyJFhaLEhOeQ--

Strange stuff. Another small item: "Longhaul" is one word.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905583)
Posted by BattleRoller23 on April 2nd, 2009 @ 7:07am CDT
THE DOCTOR: Alternate form has not been announced.

The Doctor? Will the Daleks be in it also? What about a sonic screwdriver for a weapon? :grin:
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905609)
Posted by Uber Galvatron on April 2nd, 2009 @ 8:38am CDT
This probably isnt the whole cast, as although it is a spoiler about which characters are in it. It doesnt mention if any of the characters who were killed in the first film are coming back.

But from what i've seen. This is a pretty good list of characters although there are three things that bug me.

1) WHEELIE is a DECEPTICON? What has the world come to? Atleast if we have one Decepticon thats going to die then I think we know who it is going to be.

2) The Doctor. Who in the name of Primus is "The Doctor"? Are there any Time-Lords in the film, Do the Decepticons have the TARDIS? Does Soundwave use a Sonic Screwdriver and will Devastator start screaming out "EXTERMINATE"!

3) Devastator. They really need to think of a new name for this guy, Devastators name was already used in the first movie for Brawl. If people who have watched the first film see that Devastator and see the new movie and then see that Devastator then they will get confused if they are related or not.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905616)
Posted by Autobot Firestorm on April 2nd, 2009 @ 8:49am CDT
Starfield wrote:On the Yahoo news article, if you click on the image you get this poster that looks pretty official: http://l.yimg.com/img.omg.yahoo.com/omg/us/img/83/a2/9019_3705651155.jpg?y=660&x=616&q=75&n=0&sig=Zvqw8NxIBWHyJFhaLEhOeQ--

Strange stuff. Another small item: "Longhaul" is one word.


Poster looks fake to me given they list Demolishor and Scavanger separately. I believe these names have been used to reference the same 'bot (large, red excavator). Plus the use of "the doctor" when we've already seen the toy list him as Scalpel.

Plus the poster design doesn't look very polished...very amateur. The white text doesn't fit with the theme of the rest of the poster.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905629)
Posted by First-Aid on April 2nd, 2009 @ 9:24am CDT
Skowl wrote:That's strange...

Why is Demolishor no longer listed as a Constructicon?


I think I've mentioned before that I believe Demolishor will not be in the movie very long. His scene of crashing through the overpass I believe is part of the opening of the movie. If you look at the overpass, the road signs are in Chinese. I think he and Sideways are taken out at the beginning of the movie...perhaps with collateral fatalities of two of the three motorbikes (Chromia and the other as-yet-unnamed bike) which could explain their not being mentioned as well. As a result, I believe- despite the similarities- Scavenger and Demolishor are two seperate characters. And, if you look very carefully, there ARE 7 protoforms crashing in Egypt...with a total of 14 protoforms shown in the teaser (two in Paris, 7 in Egypt, 5 in the sea).
I also agree that "The Doctor" is very obviously Scalpel. The picture of him climbing on Sam is obviously a torture scene; however, if you look closely you can see metal fingers holding Sam down so the Doc can "work" on him. I believe that's Starscream...and was the scene from the trailer when he was being held down on the slab.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905672)
Posted by oldskooltf on April 2nd, 2009 @ 11:39am CDT
First-Aid wrote:
Skowl wrote:That's strange...

Why is Demolishor no longer listed as a Constructicon?


I think I've mentioned before that I believe Demolishor will not be in the movie very long. His scene of crashing through the overpass I believe is part of the opening of the movie. If you look at the overpass, the road signs are in Chinese. I think he and Sideways are taken out at the beginning of the movie...perhaps with collateral fatalities of two of the three motorbikes (Chromia and the other as-yet-unnamed bike) which could explain their not being mentioned as well. As a result, I believe- despite the similarities- Scavenger and Demolishor are two seperate characters. And, if you look very carefully, there ARE 7 protoforms crashing in Egypt...with a total of 14 protoforms shown in the teaser (two in Paris, 7 in Egypt, 5 in the sea).


You could be correct. The confusion is how the Hasbro official toy fair photos we see show us Scavenger as Image

and then Demolisher as
Image

They sure look very similar to me. The scavenger toy is less detailed probably because it is one of the 6 (or 7?) toys that form Devastator.

If they are two different characters then why do they have such a similar construction vehicle mode. If they are the same character, then why do we have two different names for one guy? I hate this confusion and I feel it could have been avoided by someone in Bay's camp or by Hasbro.


Rodimus2006 wrote:Demolisher was in all 3 parts of the Unicron Trilogy one of the few who was and survived until he got upgraded to Snow Cat.


Demolisher was only in the Armada Cartoon and Energon Cartoon, not the TF Cybertron cartoon. He was not reformatted to Snow Cat. Armada/Energon Cyclonus was reformatted to Snow Cat. When Demolisher was reformatted in TF Energon he was still called Demolisher (I think) and became a dump truck type of vehicle similar to G1 Long Haul but with weapon capabilities.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905680)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on April 2nd, 2009 @ 11:50am CDT
Uber Galvatron wrote:1) WHEELIE is a DECEPTICON?


Bio and Pics of toy:
http://www.seibertron.com/images/news/g ... hg4l6v.jpg
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905688)
Posted by MYoung23 on April 2nd, 2009 @ 12:04pm CDT
Does anyone else notice that Starscream in yahoo pic appears to be "spitting" on Sam?
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905697)
Posted by Serpent O - R on April 2nd, 2009 @ 12:18pm CDT
Looking at the conversations here, i feel it prudent to mention that skimming bold type is not the same as reading 2 articles and the previous posts.

With that being said...

Misinformation has been the name of the game since pre-pre-production.

Columnists are not likely to go digging out Fanboy knowledge for their articles. They are more likely to grab a couple positive comments from youtube or flickr and run with it as common sentiment.

My thoughts...

These discussions already began in this thread, here's my add.

There is enough 'empty' room inside Ravage to compress into a pretender if he was as big as mentioned. Example- the cell-phone bot from TF1, huge in robot mode compared to it's tiny alt mode. Also, nobody has heard Alice utter a single line.

Constructicons, either Demolisher was mislabeled in the article as not being a constructicon or Demolisher is no longer Demolisher when he is reformatted into Scavenger, Devastator's torso [thus ret-conning away the need for a proper combiner toy].

Meh, I'll stop here.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905706)
Posted by starfish on April 2nd, 2009 @ 12:25pm CDT
Interesting to read there might be SEVEN Constructicons. It would certianly tie in with this picture, released a while back, which shows seven vehicle-mode silhouettes in the background.

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1. Backhoe Truck ?? Overload???
2. Right Arm / Rampage - we've seen pics of the Deluxe toy
3. Torso / Demolishor (aka Scavenger) - the guy in the trailer
4. Right Leg / Dump Truck / Long Haul - we've seen the FAB toy pics
5. Left Leg / Bulldozer (I'm guessing Scrapper)
6. Head / Cement Mixer (presumably Mixmaster)
7. Left Arm / Crane (presumably Hightower)

So what's this missing backhoe truck? It appears on the pictures, it appears on the line-up list... but it wasn't seen at the toy fair?

I'm guessing that he might be a Targetmaster-style weapon (like the Seacons had), or maybe the stomach area of the body, similar to Long Haul's position in the G1 Devastator.

What do you think?
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905708)
Posted by Mechabreaker on April 2nd, 2009 @ 12:28pm CDT
Rodimus2006 wrote:Chromia is a a new character
Skids is a new Character also


Actually, Skids and Chromia are characters from the G1 cartoon, they may not necessarily be based on the original G1 characters, but they do share the names.

Chromia:http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Chromia_%28G1%29
Skids:http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Skids_%28G1%29
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905790)
Posted by Starfield on April 2nd, 2009 @ 2:33pm CDT
I think that is the main cast, finally, after all the mis-information. Funny it was released on April 1. No Barricade. No Megatron. The poster looks like an official Paramount release, so that are there names, as far as Paramount is concerned. Bay could always do another Brawl/Devastator switcheroo.

"The Doctor" probably goes nameless in the film.

It leaves open my theory that "The Fallen" is somehow Megatron, or entered this plain by animating Megatron's corpse or something.

Something is screwy with the toys. A change in movie plans after toys could be changed? I'm going with the idea that "a bunch" of protoform Decepticons scanned a whole construction site worth of alternate modes and hid like that for a while until they combine directly from vehicles and stay like that until he is beat up. The toys don't have to exactly match the movie because Devastator merges from "a group of several random construction vehicles." Maybe even getting broken up at one point and forming from "several other random construction vehicles" Junkion style! There's no stopping them! [small](unless Sideswipe knows the universal greeting.)[/small] :P
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905983)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on April 2nd, 2009 @ 9:44pm CDT
Serpent O - R wrote:There is enough 'empty' room inside Ravage to compress into a pretender if he was as big as mentioned. Example- the cell-phone bot from TF1, huge in robot mode compared to it's tiny alt mode. Also, nobody has heard Alice utter a single line.


Hmmm... That would explain his kind of open rib cage.

In fact, this may sound gross, but I wonder if inside incredibly flexible metal bulk might be a blob of organic matter, so that Ravage's bot to beast transformation effectively consists of turning himself inside out.

Anyone else oddly reminded of Species?

Of course, the disguise could be liquid metal in nature (like Kristana Loken in T:3), holographic (we've seen a lot of holograms so far), or simply a conventional transformation - the vehicle TFs don't leave behind visible seams when they return to alt mode, so why would a seemingly biological alt-mode be different? Although his disguise would fail on tactile inspection...

Also, I wonder if he'll actually 'change faces' throughout the movie, to keep everyone paranoid?

[The other reason I think he's likely to be "Alice" is because I think Michael Bay and crew would find the idea of a trans-sexual Transformer to be funny.]
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (905984)
Posted by Autobot Firestorm on April 2nd, 2009 @ 10:03pm CDT
Caelus wrote:
Serpent O - R wrote:There is enough 'empty' room inside Ravage to compress into a pretender if he was as big as mentioned. Example- the cell-phone bot from TF1, huge in robot mode compared to it's tiny alt mode. Also, nobody has heard Alice utter a single line.


Hmmm... That would explain his kind of open rib cage.

In fact, this may sound gross, but I wonder if inside incredibly flexible metal bulk might be a blob of organic matter, so that Ravage's bot to beast transformation effectively consists of turning himself inside out.

Anyone else oddly reminded of Species?

Of course, the disguise could be liquid metal in nature (like Kristana Loken in T:3), holographic (we've seen a lot of holograms so far), or simply a conventional transformation - the vehicle TFs don't leave behind visible seams when they return to alt mode, so why would a seemingly biological alt-mode be different? Although his disguise would fail on tactile inspection...

Also, I wonder if he'll actually 'change faces' throughout the movie, to keep everyone paranoid?

[The other reason I think he's likely to be "Alice" is because I think Michael Bay and crew would find the idea of a trans-sexual Transformer to be funny.]


I agree with you 100% on this. I guess I keep going back to Kurtzman's quote about Ravage having another skill set and everyone will be surprised. Ravage is supposed to be this incredible spy, right? I think the whole "Species" reference you made fills in nicely here. Incredibly hot chick turns out to be Ravage in disguise...makes for a cool story.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (906000)
Posted by oldskooltf on April 2nd, 2009 @ 10:43pm CDT
Autobot Firestorm wrote:
Caelus wrote:
Serpent O - R wrote:There is enough 'empty' room inside Ravage to compress into a pretender if he was as big as mentioned. Example- the cell-phone bot from TF1, huge in robot mode compared to it's tiny alt mode. Also, nobody has heard Alice utter a single line.


Hmmm... That would explain his kind of open rib cage.

In fact, this may sound gross, but I wonder if inside incredibly flexible metal bulk might be a blob of organic matter, so that Ravage's bot to beast transformation effectively consists of turning himself inside out.

Anyone else oddly reminded of Species?

Of course, the disguise could be liquid metal in nature (like Kristana Loken in T:3), holographic (we've seen a lot of holograms so far), or simply a conventional transformation - the vehicle TFs don't leave behind visible seams when they return to alt mode, so why would a seemingly biological alt-mode be different? Although his disguise would fail on tactile inspection...

Also, I wonder if he'll actually 'change faces' throughout the movie, to keep everyone paranoid?

[The other reason I think he's likely to be "Alice" is because I think Michael Bay and crew would find the idea of a trans-sexual Transformer to be funny.]


I agree with you 100% on this. I guess I keep going back to Kurtzman's quote about Ravage having another skill set and everyone will be surprised. Ravage is supposed to be this incredible spy, right? I think the whole "Species" reference you made fills in nicely here. Incredibly hot chick turns out to be Ravage in disguise...makes for a cool story.



For some reason I don't want to agree with this idea, but the more I think about it, the more I could see it happening.

That or I could also go with whoever said about the theory that Ravage will become a gun for Megatron or maybe even Soundwave. I think I recall either Bay or one of the writers saying we'll have a transformer(s) transforming into weapons.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (906059)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on April 3rd, 2009 @ 2:26am CDT
oldskooltf wrote:That or I could also go with whoever said about the theory that Ravage will become a gun for Megatron or maybe even Soundwave. I think I recall either Bay or one of the writers saying we'll have a transformer(s) transforming into weapons.


Given that it looks like he has a barrel recessed in his mouth (see pic at top of website) and his cyclopian eye evokes the sense of a scope, I won't dispute that possibility.
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (906192)
Posted by First-Aid on April 3rd, 2009 @ 11:07am CDT
Caelus wrote:
oldskooltf wrote:That or I could also go with whoever said about the theory that Ravage will become a gun for Megatron or maybe even Soundwave. I think I recall either Bay or one of the writers saying we'll have a transformer(s) transforming into weapons.


Given that it looks like he has a barrel recessed in his mouth (see pic at top of website) and his cyclopian eye evokes the sense of a scope, I won't dispute that possibility.


I agree 100%. Looking at that picture, it even has the look of a barrel that extends. Targetmaster it is...
Re: USA Today and Yahoo.com Reveal List of ROTF Characters (906207)
Posted by sto_vo_kor_2000 on April 3rd, 2009 @ 11:37am CDT
Rodimus2006 wrote:There I hope that clears away some of the confusion.


I doubt it did all things considered. :grin:

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