Video Reviews for Transformers Legacy Grimlock, Thundercracker and Nemesis Prime

Nemesis Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

M. Spector wrote:Could the listings for Rock perhaps be the rumored "Energon Monsters" form early Legacy leaks, just repurposed or finally getting there moment?

And man, a new Windblade is great news, I'll prolly be all over that after the crushing disappointment of my TR one

The pretenders from Legacy were the energon monsters.

They were the monster shells with energon weapon compatibility.
Hence Energon Monster.

...no they weren't, the initial leaks had them entirely separate. Core Iguanus and Skullgrin were listed alongside the Core and Deluxe Energon Monster(s) when the entire lineup for the year leaked. It was only after the line was underway that Skullgrin got bumped up in size to replace the Deluxe Energon Monster and Bomb-Burst got added to replace the Core one.

Haha, wow, I was way off on that one. Thanks for clearing it up.

Skywarp came with a fork instead of his null-rays.
So I'm disappointed that Thundercracker didn't come with a spoon.

Why there are two videos of Grimlock?

Micktrap397 wrote:Why there are two videos of Grimlock?

My mistake, thanks for pointing it out

Looks like earlier shots of core Grimlock were mis-transformed. They had the dino tail inverted so the wider parts were flared out, making his backside look like the bell of a trumpet. This makes it looks slightly less objectionable. But not enough to make me want the Core dinos. I'll stick with the Leader Studio Series versions, thanks.

DeathReviews wrote:Looks like earlier shots of core Grimlock were mis-transformed. They had the dino tail inverted so the wider parts were flared out, making his backside look like the bell of a trumpet. This makes it looks slightly less objectionable. But not enough to make me want the Core dinos. I'll stick with the Leader Studio Series versions, thanks.

I don't really see how it's one or the other.

Since those Legacy Evolution Core Class wave 2 sightings were not too far from me, I wonder if it is true that perhaps Target just got some of them individually randomly placed in shipments, and not full case packs? I mean I've seen the Voyager Leo Prime & Tarn at about every Target in my area, so I know they are getting full cases. But... Last Sunday I spotted a single core Nemesis on the peg (that wasn't in Target's system), also found a single Core Bomb Burst (Evo PR) at a different store, also wasn't in the system. It would seem odd that each of these stores would have just ONE toy. (I asked employees to check the back, but without the item being in their system, they had no way of knowing ) Scalpers is also a definite possibility, but why would they leave just one toy behind at each store?

Finally got the video up - Menasor coming soon

I managed to find Needlenose at Target today, my first Evolution sighting in stores. still need the cores and voyagers from the wave.

Needlenose is really nice, he's surprisingly very good. His headsculpt is immaculate, like really, it's really damn good. Best headsculpt on a deluxe in a while in my eyes. I also like his size, he has a nice presence to him. Jet mode is pretty nice too.

Transformation wise, I thought I had him easy peasy, but then I couldn't figure something out, looked at the directions, and was surprised by the entire jet half being on a hinge the way it was, it was a fun little thing I was not expecting.

Needlenose is just a box with wings and the bot is just generic crap!

....and mine is set to arrive (along Scraphook) from Walmart.ca in March... MARCH...

-Kanrabat- wrote:Needlenose is just a box with wings and the bot is just generic crap!

....and mine is set to arrive (along Scraphook) from Walmart.ca in March... MARCH...

Just 2 weeks away (I'm getting scraphook too)

I’m going to give Hastak credit and props when they’ve earned it.
I’ve said in multiple posts for what seems like a decently long time now (mainly since the SS86 subline has come out) that they’ve earned my trust. That there have been improvements with decisions, releases, and overall quality. Of course there are exceptions to this, but overall, I think we have been given a lot of great figures in the last few years.

But those Core Dinobots have fallen short… Way short.
And please know I wanted to like them. I was gearing up to buy them.
In fact, I’m still willing to buy the last 2 main characters if they’re good…
I don’t need Volcanicus…
But that Sludge is truly awful… Both modes are terribly bad in appearance.
I honestly would’ve considered buying these guys if even 1 of the 2 modes was good.
And they’re just not. Grimlock’s bot mode is close to alright, but it’s still bad.
I don’t need to be reminded about price point, engineering limitations due to size, design compromises due to the evo-fusion combining gimmick, or the intended consumer age…
I get it. I get it all.
And these are still bad.
In fact, the Volcanicus leg formed by Grimlock isn’t good in terms of appearance.
I will be basically shocked if the completed combined mode looks better than what I’m expecting at this point.

I don’t think I’d buy any of these if they were $5 each…
This may seem harsh, but damn…
I’m always going to call it like I see it.
And while I pretty much love every figure I’ve bought in the last year+,
these Dinobots are garbage.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Needlenose is just a box with wings and the bot is just generic crap!

....and mine is set to arrive (along Scraphook) from Walmart.ca in March... MARCH...

Just 2 weeks away (I'm getting scraphook too)

Time feel twice as long in winter.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I managed to find Needlenose at Target today, my first Evolution sighting in stores. still need the cores and voyagers from the wave.

Were there any other deluxes at all? I too saw a single Needlenose at a Target about a week ago. Didn't get it, because all I want is Scraphook from that assortment. Further lending possibility to the theory that some stores are not getting whole cases of these (except Voyagers which are reaching Saturation, at least in my area of CA)

I honestly couldn't tell you who Needlenose but the more I see pics of it the more I'm leaning towards buying it!

Ya know not for nothing, I can't figure out how they transformed Grimlock wrong like there's no way from what I can tell for the legs to fold up "wrong."

Till-all-R1 wrote:I honestly couldn't tell you who Needlenose but the more I see pics of it the more I'm leaning towards buying it!

He's a guy that really knows his "brand".



He's also sometimes Tracks' brothe, apparently because they both have similar slotted helmets.



Emerje

o.supreme wrote:also found a single Core Bomb Burst (Evo PR)

Oh so that repack is still happening and it's in Wave 2? Would have been nice of Hasbro to mention in that stream, I guess now I just have to wait for that to hit saturation so I can actually grab him (and/or for Hasbro to maybe put him on Pulse way after the fact because they're weird about both Core and repacks).

Nemesis Primal wrote:

o.supreme wrote:also found a single Core Bomb Burst (Evo PR)

Oh so that repack is still happening and it's in Wave 2? Would have been nice of Hasbro to mention in that stream, I guess now I just have to wait for that to hit saturation so I can actually grab him (and/or for Hasbro to maybe put him on Pulse way after the fact because they're weird about both Core and repacks).

Apparently it is. I had no idea either. I almost dismissed it as the standard Legacy Core until I looked closer. It was in a picture my daughter sent me. Also if you look closely there's a SS86 Arcee with her head missing.... People never change.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ya know not for nothing, I can't figure out how they transformed Grimlock wrong like there's no way from what I can tell for the legs to fold up "wrong."

If you can't attach the gun for the tail tip, you're doing it wrong. In this case, twist the hips 180 and raise the legs as far as they go, like in this stock photo:



And good grief, Grimlock's already out? Good thing Slug and Sludge are gonna get repacked, I'd hate to miss them when my Targets get Legacy in, because at this stage I don't know what wave they'll be getting first!

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ya know not for nothing, I can't figure out how they transformed Grimlock wrong like there's no way from what I can tell for the legs to fold up "wrong."

If you can't attach the gun for the tail tip, you're doing it wrong. In this case, twist the hips 180 and raise the legs as far as they go, like in this stock photo:



And good grief, Grimlock's already out? Good thing Slug and Sludge are gonna get repacked, I'd hate to miss them when my Targets get Legacy in, because at this stage I don't know what wave they'll be getting first!

The wave 2 cores were apparently found in one or two Targets on the West Coast.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The wave 2 cores were apparently found in one or two Targets on the West Coast.

Yeah, the original TFW2005 article stated San Jose CA which is in the South Bay, about 120 miles south west of where I live.

Like I said, earlier this week I found 1 core Legacy Evo Bomb Burst at the Target closest to me (Pictured above), and then a single Nemesis at the Target across town. I checked out about 6 or 7 other locations and nothing. I very much wonder if it truly was an instance that a case of 8 somehow got split up and only 1 item sent to different stores in a "repack" box. (when random items are shipped to retail). Neither item would scan.

Chuck- I know you said in your review you got yours from eBay. Was it from a California seller? The only Core Grimlock I see on eBay at the moment is from Iowa.

o.supreme wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The wave 2 cores were apparently found in one or two Targets on the West Coast.

Yeah, the original TFW2005 article stated San Jose CA which is in the South Bay, about 120 miles south west of where I live.

Like I said, earlier this week I found 1 core Legacy Evo Bomb Burst at the Target closest to me (Pictured above), and then a single Nemesis at the Target across town. I checked out about 6 or 7 other locations and nothing. I very much wonder if it truly was an instance that a case of 8 somehow got split up and only 1 item sent to different stores in a "repack" box. (when random items are shipped to retail). Neither item would scan.

Chuck- I know you said in your review you got yours from eBay. Was it from a California seller? The only Core Grimlock I see on eBay at the moment is from Iowa.

It's from Arizona, close enough no?

My friend was obsessed with having a "road train". Legacy Optimus Prime was the best candidate for him.

I was sitting on mine for months with the Repros ready to be applied for reasons. Maybe because I really wanted Nemesis Scourge. So he bought it, traded it for my Legacy Optimus, he bought my Repros, then commission me to make him a Road Train Tanker. The spare Optimus had to be sacrificed. I keep the remains for a future project.

It was a light custom job so here it is.

ROAD TRAIN TANKER OPTIMUS!







Does this look familiar?



The "connector buggy" is in fact, Laser Optimus's ROLLER! Complete with seats.





So, what do you think?

I came across Dragstrip today at Fred Meyers, but I'm not about to pay their $33 price for a DLX figure! While $8 extra might not seem like a lot to some or most people if it means getting it, on sheer principle I'm not supporting a retailer that price gouges. And to me the figure/character isn't worth $33.
Not when I can just wait for EE to get him and pay actual retail. Heck their price for Kingdom Core figures is $16.99!!!

I bent Inferno's arm a little too far during my first time transforming him, and now the plastic is bent enough on his shoulder joint that it doesn't want to stay connected. I'm glad that the plastic is designed to bend rather than break, but so many of the parts in these modern figures are so small and delicate that it's easy to mess them up without doing much. It might be okay, or I might just need to be more careful going forward, or it might never transform right automatically, but I'm sure I'll be able to live with it.

-Kanrabat- wrote:My friend was obsessed with having a "road train". Legacy Optimus Prime was the best candidate for him.

I was sitting on mine for months with the Repros ready to be applied for reasons. Maybe because I really wanted Nemesis Scourge. So he bought it, traded it for my Legacy Optimus, he bought my Repros, then commission me to make him a Road Train Tanker. The spare Optimus had to be sacrificed. I keep the remains for a future project.

It was a light custom job so here it is.

ROAD TRAIN TANKER OPTIMUS!

The "connector buggy" is in fact, Laser Optimus's ROLLER!

So, what do you think?

Looks great!

If the connector piece is Roller, how did you sacrifice the other Optimus? If there was a way for the rear wheels to turn on the 1st tanker, it would be perfect.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Looks great!

If the connector piece is Roller, how did you sacrifice the other Optimus? If there was a way for the rear wheels to turn on the 1st tanker, it would be perfect.

Thanks!

It was the second Optimus's legs that were removed. It had to be to have the perfect sizes and look. I had to knock a few pins out. The "seats" of Roller were those foldable "kneepads".

Sure, being able to turn would have been better, but such specialised trailers do exist. Especially if the main unit is so short like for the ER or Lc trailers. Plus using the Energon connectors was damn effective! But I'll have to hunt down a new pair because this will put my planned "combiner" on hold.

Also, after playing with Legacy Optimus so much due to the customisation job, I can confirm that the Earthrise trailer was definitely empty garbage and the Legacy one truly justify the price. There's no way they couldn't include Roller in the Earthrise set. I bet that Centurion set was planned for a long time and they needed an incentive for people to "have no choice" but to buy it.

o.supreme wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I managed to find Needlenose at Target today, my first Evolution sighting in stores. still need the cores and voyagers from the wave.

Were there any other deluxes at all? I too saw a single Needlenose at a Target about a week ago. Didn't get it, because all I want is Scraphook from that assortment. Further lending possibility to the theory that some stores are not getting whole cases of these (except Voyagers which are reaching Saturation, at least in my area of CA)

Only deluxe not there was Breakdown.

More Needlenose. He is just real neat. It's a fight between him and Scraphook for favorite deluxe of the wave.

Appart the in-your-face hollow thighs, Needlenose looks pretty boss. For the price I paid mine, I may buy an upgrade kit. That is, if I ever receive the damn thing.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Appart the in-your-face hollow thighs, Needlenose looks pretty boss. For the price I paid mine, I may buy an upgrade kit. That is, if I ever receive the damn thing.

Yeah, hollowness doesn't generally bother me, but that's upgrade-worthy.

Still haven't found Legacy Evolution in stores while people are finding wave 2...

Emerje

Overall I like the look of Needlenose…
Minus the knight-styled helmet.
I’m old, but it reminds me of Super Grover.

I would be tempted if he was on sale, but he’s still a pass for me.

Sowndwave76 wrote:Overall I like the look of Needlenose…
Minus the knight-styled helmet.

Blame the original 1988 toy:

Sabrblade wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:Overall I like the look of Needlenose…
Minus the knight-styled helmet.

Blame the original 1988 toy:

It’s not that bad…
I just don’t really care about that character.

Emerje wrote:Still haven't found Legacy Evolution in stores while people are finding wave 2...

Emerje

BBTS and Amazon seem to be where they're coming from. I did get Tarn from Target, though.

sol magnus wrote:

Emerje wrote:Still haven't found Legacy Evolution in stores while people are finding wave 2...

Emerje

BBTS and Amazon seem to be where they're coming from. I did get Tarn from Target, though.

People above are finding Evolution Core wave 2 at Target.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Emerje wrote:Still haven't found Legacy Evolution in stores while people are finding wave 2...

Emerje

BBTS and Amazon seem to be where they're coming from. I did get Tarn from Target, though.

People above are finding Evolution Core wave 2 at Target.

Emerje

Yes. I just saw someone in my local group find a Nemesis. VA gets everything early, it seems.

Finally found Evolution Wave 1 in a Target. Well, Hot Shot and Leo Prime that is Already got Hot Shot from Amazon, so I picked up Leo Prime. Gotta say, he's pretty good. Lion face is still iffy, but the rest of him is solid enough. Weird that they have tabs on the lion mane for the tab set of guns, but tell you to open the mane for them

sol magnus wrote:

Emerje wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Emerje wrote:Still haven't found Legacy Evolution in stores while people are finding wave 2...

Emerje

BBTS and Amazon seem to be where they're coming from. I did get Tarn from Target, though.

People above are finding Evolution Core wave 2 at Target.

Emerje

Yes. I just saw someone in my local group find a Nemesis. VA gets everything early, it seems.

Thought you meant the Titan for a second and was royally confused until I remembered the Core class Nemesis Prime.

Sabrblade wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Emerje wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Emerje wrote:Still haven't found Legacy Evolution in stores while people are finding wave 2...

Emerje

BBTS and Amazon seem to be where they're coming from. I did get Tarn from Target, though.

People above are finding Evolution Core wave 2 at Target.

Emerje

Yes. I just saw someone in my local group find a Nemesis. VA gets everything early, it seems.

Thought you meant the Titan for a second and was royally confused until I remembered the Core class Nemesis Prime.

LOL I wish. But yes, I meant Nemesis Prime.

So when can we expect the announcement for the Exclusive legacy Cryotek?

Sculyblast wrote:So when can we expect the announcement for the Exclusive legacy Cryotek?

No one know for a "when". Could be next week or could be next year.
But one thing is sure, if T-Wrecks was done, there's no reasons why such an easy Cryotek repaint wouldn't be done.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sculyblast wrote:So when can we expect the announcement for the Exclusive legacy Cryotek?

No one know for a "when". Could be next week or could be next year.
But one thing is sure, if T-Wrecks was done, there's no reasons why such an easy Cryotek repaint wouldn't be done.

I wonder if history would repeat itself and Hasbro would offer it to Target as an exclusive just like the original.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sculyblast wrote:So when can we expect the announcement for the Exclusive legacy Cryotek?

No one know for a "when". Could be next week or could be next year.
But one thing is sure, if T-Wrecks was done, there's no reasons why such an easy Cryotek repaint wouldn't be done.

I wonder if history would repeat itself and Hasbro would offer it to Target as an exclusive just like the original.

Emerje

I would bet on it.
It will also be a Toys R Us exclusive.

Then for some reasons, Walmart.ca will have the overstock.

And some times later, BOOM, 30$CAN on clearance.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sculyblast wrote:So when can we expect the announcement for the Exclusive legacy Cryotek?

No one know for a "when". Could be next week or could be next year.
But one thing is sure, if T-Wrecks was done, there's no reasons why such an easy Cryotek repaint wouldn't be done.

On the other hand, we did get a new Optimal Optimus, but a Primal Prime redeco of it never happened.

But there was the SDCC Throne of the Primes repaint. I think Hasbro is happy if they can get at least a minimum of 2 uses of each new mold they make. Still waiting for a Selects "toy color" Double Clouder from ER Double Dealer. I think that is the oldest Leader Class in recent times that hasn't been reused.

Legacy Blitzwing is going to be especially tricky, also, unless they just do a Diaclone colors one.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sculyblast wrote:So when can we expect the announcement for the Exclusive legacy Cryotek?

No one know for a "when". Could be next week or could be next year.
But one thing is sure, if T-Wrecks was done, there's no reasons why such an easy Cryotek repaint wouldn't be done.

On the other hand, we did get a new Optimal Optimus, but a Primal Prime redeco of it never happened.

Primal Prime and Burning Convoy seems to be exclusive to Japan while T-Wrecks and Cryotek both got releases at the time. So the Hasbro ones are pretty much sure to get repainted. The red ones are for to make, like all the other "burnings".

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sculyblast wrote:So when can we expect the announcement for the Exclusive legacy Cryotek?

No one know for a "when". Could be next week or could be next year.
But one thing is sure, if T-Wrecks was done, there's no reasons why such an easy Cryotek repaint wouldn't be done.

On the other hand, we did get a new Optimal Optimus, but a Primal Prime redeco of it never happened.

Primal Prime and Burning Convoy seems to be exclusive to Japan while T-Wrecks and Cryotek both got releases at the time. So the Hasbro ones are pretty much sure to get repainted. The red ones are for to make, like all the other "burnings".

Primal Prime wasn't exclusive to Japan, it was an exclusive in Japan (to TRU), it was a limited Beast Machines release from Hasbro (TFWiki says they only made 10,000). Cryotek also got a Japanese release as a "USA Edition".

Funny thing about PotP Optimal Optimus is that he was a fan vote winner that nobody voted for. Optimus Primal was the vote winner and while there is a Primal in the box it's decidedly not the figure we were expecting.

Emerje

Yeah, Primal Prime was a Hasbro-original toy. Beast Machines didn't exist in Japan yet at the time, and if he had been a Takara-original, there's no way he would have been named "Primal Prime". He'd have been named something with "Convoy" in the name. Takara didn't use the words "Prime" or "Primal" in their Transformers toys' names back then. And his biggest role back then was in 3H BotCon comics, which also never released in Japan.