We have our First Look at how the TF Animated Style will Translate to the Generations Legacy Line
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Posted by william-james88 on December 18th, 2022 @ 2:40pm CST
However, as we get to toys like the Prime toys and Animated toys, the original toys are way closer to the animated models than the G1 toys are compared to G1 character models so we get to this point where a "new" release doesn't really offer much over a reissue. The exception would be for characters that never had proper toys, like Prime Knockout. One heck of a missed opportunity on that one.
As for the Junkion, I am getting STRONG TF Energon vibes from that bot mode design.
Posted by Razorbeast88 on December 18th, 2022 @ 2:41pm CST
Here comes all the whining and pitching about Prowl. tHatS nOt hoW hE loOkeD. They're not gonna make the seem string bean mf as in the show, all the characters in the show had those weird spindly proportions. And it looked awesome. But this isn't that. This is meant to have all the characters blend in, and he looks awesome! Bike mode looks cool, robot mode looks cool. Not even super clunky looking. And the headsculpt is cool, they blended the styles nicely. Definitely picking this guy up. All the whiners can stick to the original figures. I'm loving that I can have my favorite characters with a more cohesive look. And this is wayyyy better than knockout and Prime arcee. Knock outs robot mode looks like crap. Prime arcee just doesn't have good engineering. I love my wreckers Bulkhead. Armada starscream looks good but toy itself seems underwhelming. And hot shot almost seems too faithful, the blocky arms and flat head/face look straight out of Armada instead of being stylized. Can't please everyone I guess, but I'm excited for more TF:A figures based on this prowl. Shockwave and blitzwing please. Grimlock. Lockdown. Ratchet. Everyone
Posted by DeathReviews on December 18th, 2022 @ 2:43pm CST
But this Legacy Animated Prowl looks good. Sure the head is different, but the alt mode looks well contrived. I hope they don't have a traffic light for a secondary melee weapon!
Posted by SpaceEagle on December 18th, 2022 @ 2:44pm CST
Now, for Animated Prowl....
This,
This looks so much better than what I expected. Granted I do agree it's probably the "safest" way to do it, but I appreciate it actually looking like the "G1 aesthetic" while not betraying the Wyatt style. Gives me good hopes for more Legacy Animated figures, and another good motorbike for the collection.
Posted by Bumblevivisector on December 18th, 2022 @ 2:56pm CST
That interests me more than the figure as is. I can see where Hasbro would consider it jarring to have figures in the same assortment done in radically different art styles, but this does leave me pessimistic about the possibilities for forgotten Animated characters finally getting the toys they deserve. Unless, of course, Hasbro revisiting them stirs up enough interest in TF Animated that a 3P starts doing show-accurate toys, as was done for Prime characters starting a couple years ago.
I mean, I like this better than the Legacy Prime characters' toys so far, but this line has me more excited for Junkion army-building than anything else in the coming year.
Posted by Nemesis Destron on December 18th, 2022 @ 3:05pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 18th, 2022 @ 3:14pm CST
Bumblevivisector wrote:Maybe the new Animated Prowl will also be retooled into a Junkion? Perhaps a female one?
It won't be since the deal with the Junkions is that they can detach themselves and rearange themselves together or with other bots, which isn't a feature on this prowl. If I had to guess how this could be reused, I'd go for Cybertron Ransack or one of the other decos.
Posted by Emerje on December 18th, 2022 @ 4:17pm CST
Rtron wrote:Arcee was just a premold for Road Rocket, of all things.
Not true, we've seen the design sketches, the RR head was very much an afterthought. If it were the other way around the figure would have started male.
Emerje
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 18th, 2022 @ 4:18pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Bumblevivisector wrote:Maybe the new Animated Prowl will also be retooled into a Junkion? Perhaps a female one?
It won't be since the deal with the Junkions is that they can detach themselves and rearange themselves together or with other bots, which isn't a feature on this prowl. If I had to guess how this could be reused, I'd go for Cybertron Ransack or one of the other decos.
I could see a ransack
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 18th, 2022 @ 4:49pm CST
Emerje wrote:I could maybe see this retooled into Armada Sideways, but that's about it.
Which head?
Emerje wrote:He even has the right weapons (where are people seeing guns?), I think the overall figure is perfect.
Probably the rods the handlebars are on, behind the head. Prowl only has those wheel-shuriken, but Armada Sideways has those tailpipe missiles. He was still originally intended as a Ninja-like character, but more as comedy relief with the "little angel vs. little devil" schtick.
Posted by SpaceEagle on December 18th, 2022 @ 4:49pm CST
Posted by Mr.MicroMaster on December 18th, 2022 @ 6:00pm CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 18th, 2022 @ 6:32pm CST
I love my boneyard!
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 18th, 2022 @ 6:37pm CST
You know, that would have been neat. And made more use of Crosswise and Rook. The ninja motif also explains why both of his Mini-Con heads ended up looking shady.Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Emerje wrote:I could maybe see this retooled into Armada Sideways, but that's about it.
Which head?Emerje wrote:He even has the right weapons (where are people seeing guns?), I think the overall figure is perfect.
Probably the rods the handlebars are on, behind the head. Prowl only has those wheel-shuriken, but Armada Sideways has those tailpipe missiles. He was still originally intended as a Ninja-like character, but more as comedy relief with the "little angel vs. little devil" schtick.
Here's the thing, though: Forcing characters from substantially different aesthetics to conform to the G1 look instead of being faithful kinda undercuts the homage; "Okay we'll acknowledge this... but we refuse to really honor its signature look". I'll agree that Animated Prowl is waaay better than what we saw with the Prime cast in 2022, but it's still kind of iffy.Razorbeast88 wrote:That Junkion bike is awesome. I love these new characters and how much personality is put into them
Here comes all the whining and pitching about Prowl. tHatS nOt hoW hE loOkeD. They're not gonna make the seem string bean mf as in the show, all the characters in the show had those weird spindly proportions. And it looked awesome. But this isn't that. This is meant to have all the characters blend in, and he looks awesome!
So. Legacy Soundwave is my first time having the SIEGE Soundwave mold. It's a neat design, but I'm definitely noting some issues. One is that they didn't properly check clearance between the + end of Soundwave's shoulder cannon, and the engines. It's not as bad as Kingdom Rodimus' trailer rifle storage (where, in my experience, you have to leave the rifle partly unfolded to close the trailer without the tip snagging) but it's definitely noticeable.
More annoying is the leg panels used for the altmode. Their clearance and/or alignment is also off. They refuse to actually fold down and tab in for robot mode, they spring back out just shy of the slots and don't sit flat against the legs. They also force a bit of a droop in altmode.
Is this an issue on anyone else's copy, and was it present on the SIEGE release?
Posted by Immortal Starscream on December 18th, 2022 @ 6:47pm CST
Posted by RotorstormNZ on December 18th, 2022 @ 7:51pm CST
I'm long overdue for a rewatch of the show.
Posted by Nemesis Reformatted on December 18th, 2022 @ 10:50pm CST
Posted by Emerje on December 18th, 2022 @ 11:42pm CST
Nemesis Reformatted wrote:These are gonna look so awesome rotting on the pegs at Walmart & Target with all the other garbage. Month after month seeing the same crap hanging on the pegs never selling. Patiently waiting for the inevitable clearance sales.
My Walmarts keep selling and restocking wave 1, over and over, same with the exclusive Beast line. All this overstock on the top shelf (including stuff further to the left you can't see) from November is gone now.
It's not that these aren't selling and are lingering on the shelves, it's that it's the only wave Walmart ordered (same story with Core class and SS Deluxe class).
Emerje
Posted by blackeyedprime on December 19th, 2022 @ 12:04am CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 19th, 2022 @ 4:38am CST
Nemesis Reformatted wrote:These are gonna look so awesome rotting on the pegs at Walmart & Target with all the other garbage. Month after month seeing the same crap hanging on the pegs never selling. Patiently waiting for the inevitable clearance sales.
As Emeje said, it not that they shelfwam. It's because they keep ordering wave 1 over and over for some reason. So I bet for the toys you hate, they will order that wave only ONE time, get instantly sold out, then never to be seen again.
I'm practically done bothering shopping anything in brick and mortar stores. I now preorder everything that I truly want and pay full price. For the less important stuff, those can wait an online sale.
Despite the fact that so many of the things I paid full price for end up being overstocked and on clearance even online, DOTM Guzzle traumatised me with an incurable case of FOMO.
Posted by Brokebot on December 19th, 2022 @ 6:30am CST
Posted by Emerje on December 19th, 2022 @ 7:56am CST
blackeyedprime wrote:If they are going to try capitalising on beast bots in the live action they might revisit beast wars time lines and do prowl as Waspinator, ransack or reverb? Always kinda looked like him.
I don't think that's impossible. We got a bit of that from PotP Optimus Primal and his space bus alt mode. Think Animated fans would prefer Waspinator (or Wasp) from the Cliffjumper mold (because it wouldn't be Bumblebee!) thought I think Runabout / Runamuck would be a better mold choice to keep him as a more average height Deluexe.
Emerje
Posted by King Kuuga on December 20th, 2022 @ 1:12pm CST
Anyway here's my lineup of Legacy leaders. I tried to find Blitzwing 's fists of doom for the sake of completion but they must be buried somewhere.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 20th, 2022 @ 1:16pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 20th, 2022 @ 5:35pm CST
Posted by First-Aid on December 20th, 2022 @ 5:36pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:I really REALLY hope we get a Cryotek eventually. As good as he looks in these colors, dark and light blue would look amazing on him.
Someone digibash this...
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 20th, 2022 @ 6:04pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:I really REALLY hope we get a Cryotek eventually. As good as he looks in these colors, dark and light blue would look amazing on him.
We got T-Wrecks out of Beast Megs, not counting the JP X-Over. So a Cryotech Dragon Megs is pretty likely.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 20th, 2022 @ 6:12pm CST
How about multiple digibashes that several people have made?First-Aid wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I really REALLY hope we get a Cryotek eventually. As good as he looks in these colors, dark and light blue would look amazing on him.
Someone digibash this...
Cryotek
Beast Machines Megs
RiD Megs/CR Gigatron (single dragon head instead of two):
And...
Drum roll, please...
...
...
...
...
...
The Fallen!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 20th, 2022 @ 6:24pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
RiD Megs/CR Gigatron (single dragon head instead of two):
This one pleases me a lot!
Posted by First-Aid on December 20th, 2022 @ 9:49pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
RiD Megs/CR Gigatron (single dragon head instead of two):
This one pleases me a lot!
Seconded. I never knew I needed this, but I do.
Posted by Munkky on December 21st, 2022 @ 10:07am CST
Posted by Grahf_ on December 21st, 2022 @ 1:03pm CST
Beast Machines Megatron, sure okay.
Gigatron though, I'm not too sure about based on that specific digibash. There's others out there that are more accurate as they have more purple but still I'm not too sure. I just don't want Gigatron to be THAT neutered when it comes to alt modes.
Speaking of purple though, I'd still much rather see Beast Wars II Galvatron. Take the drill tank out and you have pretty much the same dragon as TM2 Megatron. It makes far more sense than Gigatron to me anyway.
Or maybe even Esmeral to go with Deathsaurus. She doesn't have an official color scheme yet as far as I know or is she just supposed to be the same colors as her husband? I really don't think Hasbro would go for making it the same colors as Deathsaurus. So maybe use the CW Deathsaurus colors for her? Or another color scheme entirely? Sure she's depicted as being very petite/feminine but I think it could work using TM2 Megs. The height different between the two would work in any event.
I also wouldn't want to see Predaking from this either. Maybe Dragonstorm even though it's supposed to be a triple headed dragon. It's just one knight that forms the dragon or something like Steelbane and Skullitron.
Posted by Hero Alpha on December 21st, 2022 @ 3:29pm CST
Posted by o.supreme on December 21st, 2022 @ 4:38pm CST
I know there are many online options, but its still a little crazy to think that now, the only B&M option for U.S. fans to purchase Legacy Mainline Deluxe wave 2 and 3 is Target.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 21st, 2022 @ 4:39pm CST
Hero Alpha wrote:Did anyone ever mention an Animated Ratchet in any of the leaks or listings so far?
Yeas, Animated Ratchet is confirmed. It will, however, just be the SS86 with an "Animated" head. Click HERE to see the full report.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 21st, 2022 @ 4:48pm CST
And that's IF Target even has them in stock.o.supreme wrote:I know there are many online options, but its still a little crazy to think that now, the only B&M option for U.S. fans to purchase Legacy Mainline Deluxe wave 2 and 3 is Target.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 21st, 2022 @ 5:08pm CST
Munkky wrote:Hot Shot and Breakdown arrived today. While Hot Shot is pretty basic and doesn't do much to stand out, he's still a good solid figure and I'm happy enough with him, especially as I never had any toy of Hot Shot when I was a kid. With Breakdown, Menasor is now complete, and while I don't think the Combiner limbs have been handled very well and I don't like how Wildrider and Breakdown are on the back of the legs (I know it's cartoon accurate, but it still looks dumb), I've been having a lot more fun with the Legacy Stunticons and Menasor than I did with anything from Combiner Wars.
How did you get them now?
Posted by First-Aid on December 21st, 2022 @ 5:52pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Hero Alpha wrote:Did anyone ever mention an Animated Ratchet in any of the leaks or listings so far?
Yeas, Animated Ratchet is confirmed. It will, however, just be the SS86 with an "Animated" head. Click HERE to see the full report.
Is that the one he meant or is he talking about the crusty old bot from TF Animated?
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 21st, 2022 @ 6:33pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Munkky wrote:Hot Shot and Breakdown arrived today. While Hot Shot is pretty basic and doesn't do much to stand out, he's still a good solid figure and I'm happy enough with him, especially as I never had any toy of Hot Shot when I was a kid. With Breakdown, Menasor is now complete, and while I don't think the Combiner limbs have been handled very well and I don't like how Wildrider and Breakdown are on the back of the legs (I know it's cartoon accurate, but it still looks dumb), I've been having a lot more fun with the Legacy Stunticons and Menasor than I did with anything from Combiner Wars.
How did you get them now?
They're available on Hasbro Pulse UK, and In Demand Toys I think
Posted by Hero Alpha on December 21st, 2022 @ 6:50pm CST
First-Aid wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Hero Alpha wrote:Did anyone ever mention an Animated Ratchet in any of the leaks or listings so far?
Yeas, Animated Ratchet is confirmed. It will, however, just be the SS86 with an "Animated" head. Click HERE to see the full report.
Is that the one he meant or is he talking about the crusty old bot from TF Animated?
Not exactly the one I meant. I do love how that video has 1.3 billion views lol
Posted by Emerje on December 21st, 2022 @ 7:10pm CST
o.supreme wrote:I know there are many online options, but its still a little crazy to think that now, the only B&M option for U.S. fans to purchase Legacy Mainline Deluxe wave 2 and 3 is Target.
Did people even see deluxe wave 2 at Target, I never did?
Emerje
Posted by Till-all-R1 on December 21st, 2022 @ 7:11pm CST
o.supreme wrote:It puzzles me why they kept re ordering that wave (after it initially came and went) as opposed to the standard Deluxe wave 2 or 3 of Legacy.
They don't keep reordering the same wave though, all the store does is reorder a SKU and it's up to the Vendor to ship whatever they have stock of. Which apparently was the same wave, and they won't usually get a new wave unless it's in stock at the warehouse.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 21st, 2022 @ 7:24pm CST
Hero Alpha wrote:First-Aid wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Hero Alpha wrote:Did anyone ever mention an Animated Ratchet in any of the leaks or listings so far?
Yeas, Animated Ratchet is confirmed. It will, however, just be the SS86 with an "Animated" head. Click HERE to see the full report.
Is that the one he meant or is he talking about the crusty old bot from TF Animated?
Not exactly the one I meant. I do love how that video has 1.3 billion views lol
Ans almost two and a quarter millions comments!
Posted by Sabrblade on December 21st, 2022 @ 7:31pm CST
I only ever saw Deluxe Wave 2 at Best Buy. Well, just Elita-1, But I presume that means the others were there at one point too.Emerje wrote:o.supreme wrote:I know there are many online options, but its still a little crazy to think that now, the only B&M option for U.S. fans to purchase Legacy Mainline Deluxe wave 2 and 3 is Target.
Did people even see deluxe wave 2 at Target, I never did?
Emerje
Posted by o.supreme on December 21st, 2022 @ 8:39pm CST
Emerje wrote:Did people even see deluxe wave 2 at Target, I never did?
Emerje
Yep, plenty of pics online of wave 2 deluxes at Target, and even in the "Brag or Cry" thread on this site. I spoke a while back about my extremally frustrating experience getting Wildrider. But for the last month or so, the closest Target to me has had a peg full of 4 Elita-1 not moving.
I just got Dead End from Amazon, because I haven't seen any wave 3 in person yet, but again, others have at Target apparently. (My son *claims* to have seen them at a Target near us last week, but like anyone else, I say "Pics or it didn't happen") My daughter always takes pics for me if she is out somewhere, trying to get the boy to do the same .
Posted by Emerje on December 22nd, 2022 @ 2:33am CST
Emerje
Posted by King Kuuga on December 22nd, 2022 @ 2:34am CST
I will say they look good together though.
Maybe tomorrow I'll compare Legacy Megs to my POTP Optimal Optimus. Now if I can just track down a Transmetal 1 Megatron again I'll have the complete set of Beast Wars leaders.
Posted by Nemesis Primal on December 22nd, 2022 @ 3:27am CST
....A bit rude on that leak timing's behalf, but I guess I'll manage.
Both those bike bots look spectacular, this wave so far seems like nothing but hits. Love the asymmetry on the Junkion (very IDW & Classics reminiscent), and Prowl looks way better than my low-hopes prediction of a Prime Arcee retool. Can't wait to get a better look at them both.
...Bumblebee and Wasp were the smallest Autobots in the show, why would you want either of them at a more average height?Emerje wrote:Think Animated fans would prefer Waspinator (or Wasp) from the Cliffjumper mold (because it wouldn't be Bumblebee!) thought I think Runabout / Runamuck would be a better mold choice to keep him as a more average height Deluexe.
Emerje
Also after how Prowl came out I would just prefer a new mold be made that those two can share, rather than try to force more uses out of the ER Cliff mold (unless those uses are Glyph and Tap-Out, we still need them).
Really hoping for more of a breakup of colors than this digibash, like the original figure, but I'll take what I can get. I will be annoyed if they deprive Cryotek of his purple just to "help differentiate him" from Megs though, I'm still not over them intentionally screwing Clampdown with that nonsense.Sabrblade wrote:How about multiple digibashes that several people have made?
Cryotek
No tangible leaks of Animated Ratchet thus far, but at the most recent SDCC one of the designers was asked about Animated figures and namedropped Prime, Ratchet, and Lockdown as the Animated designs he most wanted to tackle...and since then we've seen a leaked store listing for Prime and an art rendition of a Junkion with a suspiciously Lockdown-looking alt mode....Hero Alpha wrote:Did anyone ever mention an Animated Ratchet in any of the leaks or listings so far?
Y'know, now that I think about it, if we are getting Lockdown and/or Ratchet, then a mold of the EMP generator will be made that both of them and Prowl can all actually use for the first time, hooray for standardized 5 mm ports.
Posted by Rodimus Knight on December 22nd, 2022 @ 8:04am CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 22nd, 2022 @ 8:52am CST
Here is a review of the toy if ever you want to see it more in depth.