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News Credits: 5 · by **skywarp-2** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:29 pm

Dagon wrote:
Nickolai wrote:Would it kill them to, JUST ONCE, reissue Rumble or Frenzy? I mean, are the molds destroyed or stolen?

Right? Or at least Buzzsaw instead of Laserbeak. Even that wouldn;'t warrent a nother Soundwave reissue purchase, but geez, who doesn't have Ravage/Laserbeak/Soundwave at this point? I know, now thousands of people will reply saying "I don't" or "I just started collecting this morning and I've never had a chance at this figure" but you know, I think people would be buying Soundwave reissues regardless of Laserbeak/Ravage/Rumble/Frenzy's inclusion, so why not switch up the tapes from time to time and potentially increase the hell out of the demand? Cause, I'd buy this if the tapes were different and I have the TRU Soundwave.

Dude I'm totally in that same mode as you guys.. frenzy and More to the point Rumble!! I want Rumble damnit!!! he's a pivotal character in the TV series.. I mean he was the only bot who got away with choking spike!! and lets not forget how he pushed around spark plug.. his wise cracking mouth only got him retribution from Skywarp..who liked picking on him with thundercracker when the other bots weren't around.. LOL..

I need him!!!

by **Transform23!!** » Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:18 am

DId it say how much is it going to be?

by **JediTray** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:22 pm

I am on a VERY limited income and wouldn't have any $$$ for this until the first week of August. Looks like I'm screwed again. My vintage Soundwave was stolen and it would be nice to have this.

If you could possibly help and take payment in August, please contact me.

-JT

by **Bullycon** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:30 pm

Nickolai wrote:Would it kill them to, JUST ONCE, reissue Rumble or Frenzy? I mean, are the molds destroyed or stolen?

I've got to think that's the case. As badly as fans have been screaming for those guys, I don't think Takara and Hasbro are sitting back in their chairs saying, "Mwa ha ha ha ha!"

I don't know the costs involved in recreating a mold, but I guess the Encore line just isn't popular enough to justify the cost. Really sucks, because I'd love to have them, too.

News Credits: 4 · by **capellamusic** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:23 pm

M-State_Moc wrote:
Nickolai wrote:Would it kill them to, JUST ONCE, reissue Rumble or Frenzy? I mean, are the molds destroyed or stolen?

I've got to think that's the case. As badly as fans have been screaming for those guys, I don't think Takara and Hasbro are sitting back in their chairs saying, "Mwa ha ha ha ha!"

I don't know the costs involved in recreating a mold, but I guess the Encore line just isn't popular enough to justify the cost. Really sucks, because I'd love to have them, too.

Then how come they did more expensive ones never before reissued like Omega Supreme, Metroplex and Sky Lynx on the Encore line? Rumble/Frenzy mold is probably cheaper to be recreated. And with a single mold they sell 2 very much wanted figures.

by **JediTray** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:09 pm

I am on a VERY limited income and wouldn't have any $$$ for this until the first week of August. Looks like I'm screwed again. My vintage Soundwave was stolen and it would be nice to have this.

If you could possibly help and take payment in August, please contact me.

-JT

by **JediTray** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:23 pm

I have gotten some replies stating that there will be ample supplies of this Soundwave available at HTS. Please pardon my ignorance, but can I ask how this is known?

-JT

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:52 pm

JediTray wrote:I have gotten some replies stating that there will be ample supplies of this Soundwave available at HTS. Please pardon my ignorance, but can I ask how this is known?

-JT

Basically, anything left over from the Comic-Con will be sold through HTS. Same thing with the previous exclusives.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:54 pm

capellamusic wrote:
M-State_Moc wrote:
Nickolai wrote:Would it kill them to, JUST ONCE, reissue Rumble or Frenzy? I mean, are the molds destroyed or stolen?

I've got to think that's the case. As badly as fans have been screaming for those guys, I don't think Takara and Hasbro are sitting back in their chairs saying, "Mwa ha ha ha ha!"

I don't know the costs involved in recreating a mold, but I guess the Encore line just isn't popular enough to justify the cost. Really sucks, because I'd love to have them, too.

Then how come they did more expensive ones never before reissued like Omega Supreme, Metroplex and Sky Lynx on the Encore line? Rumble/Frenzy mold is probably cheaper to be recreated. And with a single mold they sell 2 very much wanted figures.

That's a whole different can of worms there. Those molds did not belong to either Hasbro or Takara proper so they could not be reissued. It was only through the merger with Tomy (the current copyright holder of these molds) that we got them.

News Credits: 4 · by **capellamusic** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:35 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
capellamusic wrote:
M-State_Moc wrote:
Nickolai wrote:Would it kill them to, JUST ONCE, reissue Rumble or Frenzy? I mean, are the molds destroyed or stolen?

I've got to think that's the case. As badly as fans have been screaming for those guys, I don't think Takara and Hasbro are sitting back in their chairs saying, "Mwa ha ha ha ha!"

I don't know the costs involved in recreating a mold, but I guess the Encore line just isn't popular enough to justify the cost. Really sucks, because I'd love to have them, too.

Then how come they did more expensive ones never before reissued like Omega Supreme, Metroplex and Sky Lynx on the Encore line? Rumble/Frenzy mold is probably cheaper to be recreated. And with a single mold they sell 2 very much wanted figures.

That's a whole different can of worms there. Those molds did not belong to either Hasbro or Takara proper so they could not be reissued. It was only through the merger with Tomy (the current copyright holder of these molds) that we got them.

Well, Metroplex was always originally from Takara and Hasbro. Omega Supreme and Sky Lynx in fact were from another company, ToyBox, I think. So, Metroplex still fits the same situation. As for the other 2, didn't they have to rebuild the molds?

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:04 pm

capellamusic wrote:Well, Metroplex was always originally from Takara and Hasbro. Omega Supreme and Sky Lynx in fact were from another company, ToyBox, I think. So, Metroplex still fits the same situation. As for the other 2, didn't they have to rebuild the molds?

No

Turns out Tomy outsourced the creation and production of the molds to ToyBox, but they owned whatever was produced. When Takara merged with Tomy, lo and behold, they found the molds in the list of acquired properties.

News Credits: 4 · by **capellamusic** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:19 pm

Mkall wrote:No

Turns out Tomy outsourced the creation and production of the molds to ToyBox, but they owned whatever was produced. When Takara merged with Tomy, lo and behold, they found the molds in the list of acquired properties.

Thanks, I didn't know that before. It's great that they could reissue those 2, especially Omega Supreme. Thanks to that I now have them and I really like Omega

.

by **JediTray** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:05 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Basically, anything left over from the Comic-Con will be sold through HTS. Same thing with the previous exclusives.

Well I know that.

What I'm asking is, how do you know there will be any left over to sell online? There's no guarantee that there will be any left over, so that's why I want to make sure I am covered.

-JT

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:42 pm

JediTray wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Basically, anything left over from the Comic-Con will be sold through HTS. Same thing with the previous exclusives.

Well I know that. What I'm asking is, how do you know there will be any left over to sell online? There's no guarantee that there will be any left over, so that's why I want to make sure I am covered.

-JT

There's no guarantee of it of course, however there have been overstock from 2007 and 2008, so chances are decent that there'll be some left over.

by **JediTray** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:44 pm

Well, I guess there is really no choice, other than waiting and hoping they still have it on HTS in August.

by **JediTray** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:23 pm

At any rate, who here is going to SDCC? If so, will you be able pick up any extras? Not just Soundwave, but other Exclusives as well? I'd like to get my hands on The Baroness, Luke Skywalker, etc.

-JT

News Credits: 7 · by **Narc** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:02 pm

Eventhough I already have several incarnations of Soundwave, I still can't resist getting this one. =P~

by **Autobot Hero** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:19 pm

Wow, I would like to get my hands on that!!!

News Credits: 1 · by **Optimist_Prime** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:58 pm

The TRU reissue has much nicer packaging.

by **JediTray** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:06 pm

I disagree. Not only does the box look like the toys can be put back in for display, this one comes with four cassettes and is less expensive.

Can anyone help me with obtaining this???