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I took Cicadacon's bio to mean something more along the lines of him being Jhiaxus.. Once he "awakens," he has disdain for the factions? Sounds rather...G2-ish.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:I took Cicadacon's bio to mean something more along the lines of him being Jhiaxus.. Once he "awakens," he has disdain for the factions? Sounds rather...G2-ish.

Well, then who was Jhiaxus before he awakened as Jhiaxus?

wordmongerer wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Woah wait hold on a sec guys, how does this really change anything? Isnt Botcon fiction in its own universe, just like IDW is seperate from G1.

This comic is in continuity with the IDW Beast Wars comics (The Gathering, The Ascending, and the Sourcebook), which themselves are in a universe that includes the Beast Wars and Beast Machines cartoons (but not the 3H or other Fun Pub Beast Era media).

Ok then how come pre beast tigetron has a beast head?

It's pre BW but it is post many of them choosing animal forms, e.g. Skylynx, Steeljaw or animalistic pretender forms like Longtooth so it's not something from left of field. Wouldn't you love a tiger's head for a head?

Oh boy. I am infinitely sorry for being a tease, but this is for good reason. Its best those who havent seen that particular head at every angle to remain in lalaland for a few more hours. But prepare for an outcry come later when the pics of these toys are posted. Like with the camera mode, that tiger head is quite the let down.

On the other hand, I cant wait to see that Megatron! Apparently, its the best looking thing this year and lives up to the hype!

william-james88 wrote:

wordmongerer wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Woah wait hold on a sec guys, how does this really change anything? Isnt Botcon fiction in its own universe, just like IDW is seperate from G1.

This comic is in continuity with the IDW Beast Wars comics (The Gathering, The Ascending, and the Sourcebook), which themselves are in a universe that includes the Beast Wars and Beast Machines cartoons (but not the 3H or other Fun Pub Beast Era media).

Ok then how come pre beast tigetron has a beast head?

It's pre BW but it is post many of them choosing animal forms, e.g. Skylynx, Steeljaw or animalistic pretender forms like Longtooth so it's not something from left of field. Wouldn't you love a tiger's head for a head?

Oh boy. I am infinitely sorry for being a tease, but this is for good reason. Its best those who havent seen that particular head at every angle to remain in lalaland for a few more hours. But prepare for an outcry come later when the pics of these toys are posted. Like with the camera mode, that tiger head is quite the let down.

On the other hand, I cant wait to see that Megatron! Apparently, its the best looking thing this year and lives up to the hype!

I knew deep down it would have to be like that, as you have to rotate bd and streaker's heads 180 degrees to get everything to tab together snugly - so with his snout it was obvious there would be concessions (boy that's putting it lightly ) made

Hellscream9999 wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:Wait!

So is Reflector a botcon exclusive or is botcon just offering 3 of these translucent guys as a combiner like Reflector?

Reflector is a botcon exclusive, hasbro had planned on releasing him at retail a few years ago with shockwave being the retool. They didn't release it, nor do they intend to - it may have had something to do with the camera mode (apparently) looking like utter crap

Wow.....unbelievable.

YoungPrime wrote:Wait!

So is Reflector a botcon exclusive or is botcon just offering 3 of these translucent guys as a combiner like Reflector?

Here is the deal:

Botcon is offering aset of 3 non translucent reflectors which can combine to make a crappy looking camera (allegedly).

They also gave a clear plastic version of this reflector figure for golden ticket holders.

This will not be releases at retail. However, it uses the exact same mold as shockwave (shockwave is a retool of reflector) and if anyone wants that camera 4 cheap, they can do it using 3 shockwaves. It will be revleaed tonight, right here on Seibertron!

To be fair guys, we should not pass judgement till we see this thing (trying to say this while keeping a straight face). However I must admit that it being a bad toy (if it is) does give me a wicked sense of satisfaction to the fact that I was unable to attend botcon this year. But then again, apparently Megatron is awesome and the jealousy brings things back to a balance.

Dr Va'al wrote:Psst: It really doesn't matter.

Of course it does, this is life or death concerns we're talking about here

Mindmaster wrote:Wouldn't surprise me if he were a version of Jhiaxus, honestly. That'd be dope.

I would agree and my first thought was also Jhiaxus. Just based on old evil dudes that experiment on stuff. I dig that crazy bastard, gotta love a good old fashioned mad scientist!

william-james88 wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:Wait!

So is Reflector a botcon exclusive or is botcon just offering 3 of these translucent guys as a combiner like Reflector?

Here is the deal:

Botcon is offering aset of 3 non translucent reflectors which can combine to make a crappy looking camera (allegedly).

They also gave a clear plastic version of this reflector figure for golden ticket holders.

This will not be releases at retail. However, it uses the exact same mold as shockwave (shockwave is a retool of reflector) and if anyone wants that camera 4 cheap, they can do it using 3 shockwaves. It will be revleaed tonight, right here on Seibertron!

I would've had more respect for Hasbro if they would've made them ROSS or TJMaxx exclusives then. Not give it to a company that'll double the d@mn price on a flawed combiner. (allegedly).

Sabrblade wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:I took Cicadacon's bio to mean something more along the lines of him being Jhiaxus.. Once he "awakens," he has disdain for the factions? Sounds rather...G2-ish.

Well, then who was Jhiaxus before he awakened as Jhiaxus?

Erm...Jhiaxus was Jhiaxus before awakening as Jhiaxus?

But in seriousness, is what you just asked a thing that actually happened? I'm only so familiar with G2 and not reay up to speed on any FunPub stuff.

I just want Predacus and that Megatron....

And maybe some of those Maximals so I can fudge up some sort of Magnaboss to oppose Predacus...

JUST FUNPUB MY SH*T UP

That is an awful head. Wow. That head is so flat!

Hellscream9999 wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:Wait!

So is Reflector a botcon exclusive or is botcon just offering 3 of these translucent guys as a combiner like Reflector?

Reflector is a botcon exclusive, hasbro had planned on releasing him at retail a few years ago with shockwave being the retool. They didn't release it, nor do they intend to - it may have had something to do with the camera mode (apparently) looking like utter crap

Wait, what? The Reflector that Hasbro had planned to release years ago was from the Perceptor mold, not the Shockwave mold. We've heard nothing of any plans for Hasbro to release this new Shockwave mold Reflector.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:Wait!

So is Reflector a botcon exclusive or is botcon just offering 3 of these translucent guys as a combiner like Reflector?

Reflector is a botcon exclusive, hasbro had planned on releasing him at retail a few years ago with shockwave being the retool. They didn't release it, nor do they intend to - it may have had something to do with the camera mode (apparently) looking like utter crap

Wait, what? The Reflector that Hasbro had planned to release years ago was from the Perceptor mold, not the Shockwave mold. We've heard nothing of any plans for Hasbro to release this new Shockwave mold Reflector.

I dunno, a bunch of people who know more than I do said that this was an intended design, part of the missing gap of targetmaster legends class figures or something, but that hasbro scrapped it, and that shockwave was the planned retool. If that's wrong, you should straighten it out with whomever conveyed it to us...

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:Wait!

So is Reflector a botcon exclusive or is botcon just offering 3 of these translucent guys as a combiner like Reflector?

Reflector is a botcon exclusive, hasbro had planned on releasing him at retail a few years ago with shockwave being the retool. They didn't release it, nor do they intend to - it may have had something to do with the camera mode (apparently) looking like utter crap

Wait, what? The Reflector that Hasbro had planned to release years ago was from the Perceptor mold, not the Shockwave mold. We've heard nothing of any plans for Hasbro to release this new Shockwave mold Reflector.

I dunno, a bunch of people who know more than I do said that this was an intended design, part of the missing gap of targetmaster legends class figures or something, but that hasbro scrapped it, and that shockwave was the planned retool. If that's wrong, you should straighten it out with whomever conveyed it to us...

The one from "a few years ago" that never came out was the Perceptor mold, whose new head only got released as e-HOBBY Generations Magnificus. This Shockwave molded Reflector I can see being a scrapped planned design like you say, but not from "a few years ago".

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Sabrblade wrote:The one from "a few years ago" that never came out was the Perceptor mold, whose new head only got released as e-HOBBY Generations Magnificus. This Shockwave molded Reflector I can see being a scrapped planned design like you say, but not from "a few years ago".

Yeah, its not from a few years ago. However it has been said by everyone who is in the know that the Shockwave we got was a planned retool of a 3 pack Reflector that would have connected as a cybertronian camera. It was supposed to be a retail release. I was told that language laws got in the way but I really dont get that since it didnt stop other releases. Anyways, it was planned for release last year with the other combiner wars stuff. Supposedly, the camera can be held by Devastator. It would also explain why the handle doesnt seem to be made with the initial purpose of being held as a gun.

Oh and I know it was shown but here you go:



I dont think anyone is jealous of not getting this figure (or Tigertron) anymore.

That actually reminds me of Blaster's head.

william-james88 wrote:

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA-

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Want.

THE BEST CAMERA.
Honestly it looks more like they upgraded into a super duper weird weapons platform. And that's something I'm much happier with than their original configuration.
I adore the Reflectors, the Megatron looks so amazing, I love the use of deco to turn Slipstream into Airazor and the way they combined Under-3 and Tigatron to create Magnaboss was unexpected and really cool.
God dammit where do I get money I need these

Well Reflector's camera mode looks better than expected... but I wouldn't use the word good.

That Megatron; he looks dope!

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:The one from "a few years ago" that never came out was the Perceptor mold, whose new head only got released as e-HOBBY Generations Magnificus. This Shockwave molded Reflector I can see being a scrapped planned design like you say, but not from "a few years ago".

Yeah, its not from a few years ago. However it has been said by everyone who is in the know that the Shockwave we got was a planned retool of a 3 pack Reflector that would have connected as a cybertronian camera. It was supposed to be a retail release. I was told that language laws got in the way but I really dont get that since it didnt stop other releases. Anyways, it was planned for release last year with the other combiner wars stuff. Supposedly, the camera can be held by Devastator. It would also explain why the handle doesnt seem to be made with the initial purpose of being held as a gun.

Well, it does fit with the notion of every mold being designed with two heads, even if only one gets used. And as for their definition of "retail", would that include "brick-and-mortar" store exclusives, but exclude online ones? I've seen some terms get used very liberally. And the only places where these language laws would be a problem are Canada (specifically Quebec) and Europe...

:EDIT:... unless with "language laws" they actually meant they can't get hold of the trademark and can't figure out a good replacement name. They've used that excuse to change or even outright cancel releases, ask Trailbreaker.

I. Want. Megatron. Now.

I leave for 2 hours after these announcements and its only us here? I guess I have to go to the gallery threads to see the actual reactions. Here is one I found online that I find absoutely hilarious:

That tigertron head is AWEFUL!
It looks like the dried shriveled up foreskin of a botched circumcision. And why does Tigertron have NO STRIPES?
**** you FunPub! You suck. You have made nothing put ugly figures with horible colors, and God aweful head sculpts for years now.
Even that Megatron head looks like ass.

Why did I just waste all that money I could have spent on cool figures?
DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!! DAMN IT!!!