ZeroWolf wrote:Unless Roberts is saying that he's gained one...or does roddy believe he had one? Or you could argue that whoever did this believed he had one just because he was a similar being...
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Soft Reboot brings to mind AHM. Personally I think that would be the worst case scenario. A full reboot is good. It represents change and that's always a positive, as opposed to the stagnation of the status quo.
Big Grim wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Soft Reboot brings to mind AHM. Personally I think that would be the worst case scenario. A full reboot is good. It represents change and that's always a positive, as opposed to the stagnation of the status quo.
Fair enough, I just don't feel it's stagnant. I could get rid of some of the extra nonsense added for the Hasbroverse but ROM Vs Transformers shows how it works, Vs Visionaries shows how it really, really doesn't.
Randomhero wrote:Big Grim wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Soft Reboot brings to mind AHM. Personally I think that would be the worst case scenario. A full reboot is good. It represents change and that's always a positive, as opposed to the stagnation of the status quo.
Fair enough, I just don't feel it's stagnant. I could get rid of some of the extra nonsense added for the Hasbroverse but ROM Vs Transformers shows how it works, Vs Visionaries shows how it really, really doesn't.
I don’t know about that. I’m reading visionaries and I have no problems with it.
Honestly I personally think it’s the fans fault. Revolutions was set to fail from the start because everyone screamed how much they don’t want it and through out the whole thing it was just fan rage about how much they don’t want it. First strike same thing. Ever since they announced they were bringing other franchises in people didn’t want it and the vocal minority made sure their voice was heard.
Can’t deny the passed 2 years has been people ranting “I don’t want this I don’t want this!l” and when it happened it’s been “I don’t like this! I don’t like this!”
ZeroWolf wrote:Randomhero wrote:Big Grim wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Soft Reboot brings to mind AHM. Personally I think that would be the worst case scenario. A full reboot is good. It represents change and that's always a positive, as opposed to the stagnation of the status quo.
Fair enough, I just don't feel it's stagnant. I could get rid of some of the extra nonsense added for the Hasbroverse but ROM Vs Transformers shows how it works, Vs Visionaries shows how it really, really doesn't.
I don’t know about that. I’m reading visionaries and I have no problems with it.
Honestly I personally think it’s the fans fault. Revolutions was set to fail from the start because everyone screamed how much they don’t want it and through out the whole thing it was just fan rage about how much they don’t want it. First strike same thing. Ever since they announced they were bringing other franchises in people didn’t want it and the vocal minority made sure their voice was heard.
Can’t deny the passed 2 years has been people ranting “I don’t want this I don’t want this!l” and when it happened it’s been “I don’t like this! I don’t like this!”
This is true sadly, though I think this has been growing for a while
Z3ROhour wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Really? Now you're going to pick a fight with an administrator? I can only give you a warning, but hopefully he bans you. You contribute nothing to the discussion and are just trolling.Galactic Prime wrote:Burn wrote:Fact = fact when it's garbage.Galactic Prime wrote:Not upset at all man. I'm just right.
Fixed it for you
arguing is wrong now?
Galactic Prime wrote:[list=][/list]Z3ROhour wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Really? Now you're going to pick a fight with an administrator? I can only give you a warning, but hopefully he bans you. You contribute nothing to the discussion and are just trolling.Galactic Prime wrote:Burn wrote:Fact = fact when it's garbage.Galactic Prime wrote:Not upset at all man. I'm just right.
Fixed it for you
arguing is wrong now?
God forbid.
No one was picking a fight, except it seems him with me. Apparently you're only allowed to agree with the majority here.
misfire19d wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:[list=][/list]Z3ROhour wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Really? Now you're going to pick a fight with an administrator? I can only give you a warning, but hopefully he bans you. You contribute nothing to the discussion and are just trolling.Galactic Prime wrote:Burn wrote:Fact = fact when it's garbage.Galactic Prime wrote:Not upset at all man. I'm just right.
Fixed it for you
arguing is wrong now?
God forbid.
No one was picking a fight, except it seems him with me. Apparently you're only allowed to agree with the majority here.
Yeah. A lot of these fan sites are operated like good ol’ boy networks. They ask for comments but get whiny and triggered when they don’t like what you have to say. Here, I’ll show you.
I dont like Roberts’ writing because he espouses (tweets and retweets) an evil and tyrannical ideology that is reflected in his work. I haven’t purchased an IDW in over a year.
Intersectionality is a meaningless concept in Transformers canon. (Is my toaster a boy or a girl?)It’s meant to pander to an almost nonexistent set of consumers. (Hot Topic employees)
I’m not interested in reading about Transformers that resemble you because you are not interesting.
ZeroWolf wrote:From that va'al I guess you didn't like this issue that much or is it more, it's good aside from one or two things.
WreckerJack wrote:This issue just screams "Oh look all your favs are dead/dying" and then with the next two issues "Oh look they are fine again, made you worry haha."
I'll admit I want the Drift and Ratchet cover for #18 though. I'm barely hanging on to this series as I mentioned previously. But on a positive note - I was gifted Windblade: The Last City and the used book store had Last Stand of the Wreckers so I have something else to get into.
Galactic Prime wrote:[list=][/list]Z3ROhour wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Really? Now you're going to pick a fight with an administrator? I can only give you a warning, but hopefully he bans you. You contribute nothing to the discussion and are just trolling.Galactic Prime wrote:Burn wrote:Fact = fact when it's garbage.Galactic Prime wrote:Not upset at all man. I'm just right.
Fixed it for you
arguing is wrong now?
God forbid.
No one was picking a fight, except it seems him with me. Apparently you're only allowed to agree with the majority here.
misfire19d wrote:I’m not interested in reading about Transformers that resemble you because you are not interesting.
I really don't think there's a whole ton of that in these books. I do think many readers actively look for such things. The most political part of Lost Light is the Megatron story in issue 6. Anode was not much of anything to me but some quick analysis on the sociological impact of a homonormative/asexual/etc intelligent species going out into the galaxy, and it helped lampshade Spotlight Arcee which is always nice. I found it too academic to be political. Getaway is a study in Cybertronian sociopathy, which is again more academic than anything.Burn wrote:I'm just over the whole socio-political statements they sneak in.
Comics are supposed to be an escape from reality, not a platform for an individuals opinion.
ScottyP wrote:I really don't think there's a whole ton of that in these books. I do think many readers actively look for such things. The most political part of Lost Light is the Megatron story in issue 6. Anode was not much of anything to me but some quick analysis on the sociological impact of a homonormative/asexual/etc intelligent species going out into the galaxy, and it helped lampshade Spotlight Arcee which is always nice. I found it too academic to be political. Getaway is a study in Cybertronian sociopathy, which is again more academic than anything.Burn wrote:I'm just over the whole socio-political statements they sneak in.
Comics are supposed to be an escape from reality, not a platform for an individuals opinion.
On the second point, I think that's a little shortsighted on the purpose of any entertainment. While primarily around to provide leisure or pleasure, it can be a way to broaden horizons, challenge beliefs, and spread ideas that might help the world be better. The purpose of Transformers is for us to have fun while Hasbro makes money (mostly the latter, let's be honest), but if the entertainment it presents is mixed with a dose of material that helps us spread empathy, equanimity, and wisdom - or leads us to at least thinking about these things - then I don't see the big deal. If something does that by providing a Cybertronian avatar for underrepresented or marginalized groups, I also don't see the big deal. If anything it's great that inclusivity is such a focus, because it builds the fanbase and most of y'all are pretty cool
But then it stops being entertainment and becomes social commentary, thus negating the reason for its existence in the first place. I understand that everyone has his/her own preference and reason for reading a comic book, but personally I don't want a writer's personal point of view shoved down my throat, especially at the expense of an already established property such as Transformers. Had Roberts been the originator of the entire franchise, it would be different. When I pick up a TF comic, I don't want to read about social issues that resonate with current events in humanity, I pick up a comic precisely to escape such things.ScottyP wrote:While primarily around to provide leisure or pleasure, it can be a way to broaden horizons, challenge beliefs, and spread ideas that might help the world be better...if the entertainment it presents is mixed with a dose of material that helps us spread empathy, equanimity, and wisdom - or leads us to at least thinking about these things
Randomhero wrote:Can’t deny the passed 2 years has been people ranting “I don’t want this I don’t want this!l” and when it happened it’s been “I don’t like this! I don’t like this!”
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