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G2 Laser Rod Prime is one of the greatest TF molds in existence.

Modern take fails to come remotely close to it.

Wheeljack looks awesome. Incredible job. Rumble and Frenzy don't do it for me, but I do like the head sculpt. Scourge looks good and G2 Prime looks ok, the just look out of line. The lack of detail makes them seem displaced.

love how they turned tracks gun into wheeljack should cannon and tracks should cannons into wheel jacks wrenches

Burn wrote:G2 Laser Rod Prime is one of the greatest TF molds in existence.

Modern take fails to come remotely close to it.

Yeah when I first heard about this guy, from the descriptions from those who saw him, it sounded like he'd be "just like the original". Then when I saw him it kind of took me by surprise, because I was expecting a downsized Laser Prime. This might have made a good DOTM deluxe Prime, because he looks kind of modernized and movie-like in my opinion. I think I'll still buy both him and Scourge, but I think I'd rather find a nice Laser Prime on ebay or something. My friend has RID Scourge and I keep trying to give him offers for it. It's just a great mold, and I don't care what the G2 bashers say.

Wheeljack- Better than expected. This'll be my first Wheeljack! Yes!!!!
Frenzy and Rumble- They look great! Neat tank modes. But are they supposed to be a set or sold separately?
Scourge- Looks really awesome. This'll be my first Scourge too.
Optimus Prime- Ehh...I expected him to look more like the original Laser Prime, but I'll definitely buy him to fill the spot of G1/G2 Prime since I don't have any versions of him. He looks movie-like, too. He could stand in for movie Ultra Magnus, maybe?

OptiMagnus10 wrote:I think I'd rather find a nice Laser Prime on ebay or something.

This is something you should do regardless. To me, it's one of those moulds everyone should have in their collection.

Plus the RID Scourge version because of all that lovely shiney chrome.

Burn wrote:

OptiMagnus10 wrote:I think I'd rather find a nice Laser Prime on ebay or something.

This is something you should do regardless. To me, it's one of those moulds everyone should have in their collection.

Plus the RID Scourge version because of all that lovely shiney chrome.

Yeah when I first held Scourge I thought he was one of the most awesome Transformers I'd ever seen. Then I discovered Laser Prime and thought I had to have him. I would even go as far as to get Laser Prime, Laser Magnus, and Scourge. Then again, I could really use some Megatrons and Starscreams, too

All these look awesome. I think I can live without the Laserod Prime though. Hopefully we can see what colours Takara come up with for Frenzy/Rumble. I would love a cartoon accurate (pale purple/blue) Rumble.

Wheeljack looks better than I could have possibly hoped.
Tracks is a repaint of Wheeljack by the way not vice versa even tho he is coming out first.

Scourge is just fantastic. I'm not so keen on his alt mode so I'll just keep him in that bad ass G1 robot mode!

I also love Frenzy and Rumble's robot mode. I would love it if they were deluxe size but agree that they'll probably be scout size or something small anyway.

G2 laster Prime looks good (as does that G2 Ramjet that's coming from TFCC) but I have no interest in G2 as I don't have enough space and am not willing to devote any more cash to Transformers that G1 reissues, Masterpieces and Generations/Classics.

Remember that although it would have been cool to have had Rumble and Frenzy as cassettes or Perceptor as a microscope a la G1, we are not the main target customers for Hasbro anymore and they have to make these appeal to kids as well as us so the figures get more kid friendly alt modes and we get sweet looking, fully posable G1 accurate robot modes of our favourite characters.

With the exception of stupid headed Blurr, they are doing an outstanding job with Generations/RTS so far.
More Decepticons please!!

Wheeljack looks great aside from two things: His lack of racing markings (number, sponsor, etc), which could be fixed by Reprolabels, and the weird things he's holding in his hands. I know they're from Tracks, but why are they included with Wheeljack? Rumble/Frenzy look great. Scourge looks good aside from the shoulders, which look a bit wide. Optimus looks good as well. Not sure if I'll be getting him, although I might for the sword, as long as the Classics Voyager figure can hold it, and I'll get an RiD Scourge repaint if they make one.

Counterpunch wrote:
Scourge is surprisingly lack-luster. I was just looking at the Titanium version the other night and I think it is still the best version of Scourge.

I think the new one's bot mode is WAY better. But the Titanium's alt mode is obviously more G1-accurate. I'm just not a big fan of the Titaniums.

Counterpunch wrote:I see a lot of people saying they're glad they avoided the Perfect Effect Rumble and Frenzy. Thing is, those are incredible figures and rightly sized at that. I'll of course get this new R & F, but out of curiosity not necessity.

I would buy them, but they're too expensive for what they are, IMO. Turns out I don't need to worry about it now.

Optimus1138 wrote:the weird things he's holding in his hands. I know they're from Tracks, but why are they included with Wheeljack?

Wrenches, because he's always building wacky inventions.

Jazz-1982 wrote:
With the exception of stupid headed Blurr, they are doing an outstanding job with Generations/RTS so far.
More Decepticons please!!

Stupid-headed Blurr would like a word with you. He's right there...down in my sig. Pointing at you. Yeah, you.

Wheeljack is Awesome !!!

Rumble and Frenzy are not that bad and not that good either.

Scourge is a bit of a dissappointment. He needs large wings. Maybe a 3rd party company can hook him up with G1 style wings and a targetmaster as well.

The Optimus Prime really sucks...nuff said.

kirbenvost wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:
Scourge is surprisingly lack-luster. I was just looking at the Titanium version the other night and I think it is still the best version of Scourge.

I think the new one's bot mode is WAY better. But the Titanium's alt mode is obviously more G1-accurate. I'm just not a big fan of the Titaniums.

Counterpunch wrote:I see a lot of people saying they're glad they avoided the Perfect Effect Rumble and Frenzy. Thing is, those are incredible figures and rightly sized at that. I'll of course get this new R & F, but out of curiosity not necessity.

I would buy them, but they're too expensive for what they are, IMO. Turns out I don't need to worry about it now.

Optimus1138 wrote:the weird things he's holding in his hands. I know they're from Tracks, but why are they included with Wheeljack?

Wrenches, because he's always building wacky inventions.

Jazz-1982 wrote:
With the exception of stupid headed Blurr, they are doing an outstanding job with Generations/RTS so far.
More Decepticons please!!

Stupid-headed Blurr would like a word with you. He's right there...down in my sig. Pointing at you. Yeah, you.

LOL. I seem to be in the minority of people who don't like that head. It's a great figure just don't like his stupid noggin!

Agree about the titaniums, this version of Scourge looks way better + size wise will fit much better with Classics/Generations.

Jazz-1982 wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:

Jazz-1982 wrote:
With the exception of stupid headed Blurr, they are doing an outstanding job with Generations/RTS so far.
More Decepticons please!!

Stupid-headed Blurr would like a word with you. He's right there...down in my sig. Pointing at you. Yeah, you.

LOL. I seem to be in the minority of people who don't like that head. It's a great figure just don't like his stupid noggin!

Agree about the titaniums, this version of Scourge looks way better + size wise will fit much better with Classics/Generations.

Heh, I guess his head is kinda big and not very G1-ish, but it works for me. Especially due to IDW Blurr. But for those who aren't fans or haven't been following the comics, I can see how it wouldn't appeal.

I really should get rid of all my Titaniums. I have no desire to take them out of storage.

Man Wheeljack & Frenzy/Rumble look excellent! Great job Hasbro/TT.

For all the people saying that Tracks is a remould of Wheeljack - have we heard this officially? I think this is just fan speculation. Personally I think they designed the mould with both figures in mind from the outset. Maybe the guy who did Sunstreaker/Sideswipe did it. Last time, Hasbro told him to just repaint Sunstreaker as Sideswipe, but then he worked out with a few tweaks he could make the transformation work differently to give each bot a different look.

Loving that they painted Scourges 'beard', but even more so that they painted his claws red

Rumble and Frenzy look amazing I'm certainly buying both. Im not a huge fan of the tracks mold, so wheeljack maybe not. And Scourge looks sweet. the prime I might get just cause its rime.

Funny- before I saw these new pics I was unimpressed by Frenzy/Rumble and excited about Prime. Now that I've looked at the pics I'm excited for Frenzy/Rumble and sort of bummed by Prime.

Prime: He looked better to me in small photos. Now that I've seen him in better detail I'm not sure how much I like the overall design. The hanging panels on the arms look kind of bad and the head sculpt is leaving me cold.

Not writing him off though. I know that when I'm standing in the store holding him in my hand I will probably not be able to resist.

Oilspill wrote:For all the people saying that Tracks is a remould of Wheeljack - have we heard this officially? I think this is just fan speculation.

I can't find the article right off. There was a listing, I think from Takara's United line, that listed Tracks as a Wheeljack repaint. It's definitely more than fan speculation.

Oilspill wrote:Personally I think they designed the mould with both figures in mind from the outset. Maybe the guy who did Sunstreaker/Sideswipe did it. Last time, Hasbro told him to just repaint Sunstreaker as Sideswipe, but then he worked out with a few tweaks he could make the transformation work differently to give each bot a different look.

This is probably true. I'd bet Hasbro does that with a lot of figures at this point. At any rate, it doesn't really matter, IMHO. We are getting both Wheeljack and Tracks. I'm happy.

Though I'd like to re-iterate someone else's sentiment. My Decepticon shelf is looking pretty sparse compared to the Autobots.

Agamemnon wrote:Though I'd like to re-iterate someone else's sentiment. My Decepticon shelf is looking pretty sparse compared to the Autobots.

Yeah, and half the shelf are the same mould! (Good thing I like that mould)

Wheeljack is a must beyond must I have the Altenator Wheeljack Mustang and he has been my only wheeljack for long time and is not even in his colors. But this, is most definitely and certainly perfection of the highest calibur.

I have looked and looked and all I see is a United version of Wheeljack. No Reveal the Shield, or any of the sorts. But def worth the $30

Prime is a definite pass unless I can find him cheap at retail. Rumble and Frenzy I will pick up at retail whenever that is.

Oilspill wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:Though I'd like to re-iterate someone else's sentiment. My Decepticon shelf is looking pretty sparse compared to the Autobots.

Yeah, and half the shelf are the same mould! (Good thing I like that mould)

Someone from a toy seller/distributor had anonymously sent an email from Takara Tomy with Transformers United figure listings to Seibertron and Tracks was officially listed as a Wheeljack repaint.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, lets get some more Decepticons in this line. My shelf is the same all Seekers!!

We already know we are getting Reflector but haven't heard about plans for anymore Decepticons in this line yet.

Oilspill wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:Though I'd like to re-iterate someone else's sentiment. My Decepticon shelf is looking pretty sparse compared to the Autobots.

Yeah, and half the shelf are the same mould! (Good thing I like that mould)

Someone from a toy seller/distributor had anonymously sent an email from Takara Tomy with Transformers United figure listings to Seibertron and Tracks was officially listed as a Wheeljack repaint.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, lets get some more Decepticons in this line. My shelf is the same all Seekers!!

We already know we are getting Reflector but haven't heard about plans for anymore Decepticons in this line yet.

Oilspill wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:Though I'd like to re-iterate someone else's sentiment. My Decepticon shelf is looking pretty sparse compared to the Autobots.

Yeah, and half the shelf are the same mould! (Good thing I like that mould)

Someone from a toy seller/distributor had anonymously sent an email from Takara Tomy with Transformers United figure listings to Seibertron and Tracks was officially listed as a Wheeljack repaint.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, lets get some more Decepticons in this line. My shelf is the same all Seekers!!

We already know we are getting Reflector but haven't heard about plans for anymore Decepticons in this line yet.

Jazz-1982 wrote:

Oilspill wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:Though I'd like to re-iterate someone else's sentiment. My Decepticon shelf is looking pretty sparse compared to the Autobots.

Yeah, and half the shelf are the same mould! (Good thing I like that mould)

Someone from a toy seller/distributor had anonymously sent an email from Takara Tomy with Transformers United figure listings to Seibertron and Tracks was officially listed as a Wheeljack repaint.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, lets get some more Decepticons in this line. My shelf is the same all Seekers!!

We already know we are getting Reflector but haven't heard about plans for anymore Decepticons in this line yet.

Someone from a toy seller/distributor had anonymously sent an email from Takara Tomy with Transformers United figure listings to Seibertron and Tracks was officially listed as a Wheeljack repaint.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, lets get some more Decepticons in this line. My shelf is the same all Seekers!!

We already know we are getting Reflector but haven't heard about plans for anymore Decepticons in this line yet.

Wheeljack - awesome, can't wait, Scourge - hmm, not as good as Cyclonus, Rumble & Frenzy - no thanks. I am happy with my PE Rumble and Frenzy thanks. They look like Rumble & Frenzy, they are the right size and they even turn into a nice pair of Targetmasters for WfC Soundwave.