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Sabrblade wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Hey guys don't all Japanese words have a vowel sound between every consonant sound, and always end in a vowel sound?

Not all.

The letter ん or ン is like the letter N without a vowel and is used to conclude a syllable, like the N in "Convoy" (コンボイ Konboi).

Sounds like something Flavor Flave would say: Con Boiiiiiii!

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Hey guys don't all Japanese words have a vowel sound between every consonant sound, and always end in a vowel sound?

Not all.

The letter ん or ン is like the letter N without a vowel and is used to conclude a syllable, like the N in "Convoy" (コンボイ Konboi).

Sounds like something Flavor Flave would say: Con Boiiiiiii!

Or the N in Poke Mon?

monstrinhotron wrote:Gregevor = Greg + Trevor perhaps. No idea where that might come from though

Cobotron wrote:Or the N in Poke Mon?

Precisely.

ポケモン (Pokemon)

Or in "Megatron" (メガトロン Megatoron)

'Course, it's the only letter that caps off a syllable without a vowel sound. Everything else has a vowel sound attached it.

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Or the N in Poke Mon?

Precisely.

ポケモン (Pokemon)

Or in "Megatron" (メガトロン Megatoron)

'Course, it's the only letter that caps off a syllable without a vowel sound. Everything else has a vowel sound attached it.

Thanks Professor!

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I thought this name was just greenjeep said in a japanese accent. Isn't it that?

Drop the N in "green", change the P to B in "jeep", and add an "er" on the end.

"Greejeeber"

Yeah, exactly as I said then: greenjeep spelled phonetically when said in a japanese accent

Not quite. The term comes from, as I've stated previously, the affixation of the suffix "er" to verb forms to create a noun. Usually, we do this with action verbs to denote an "agent" (one who does something) in a construction. Examples include "runner", "thinker", "gunner", etc.

In toy names, similar, or different aspects of morphology have been used to create names such as " Tankor", "Thrustor", "Ro-Tor", "Ground Shaker " and "Green-Jeeper". This was then affected by the the phonological aspect of (assimilation?), where the bilabial plosives, /p/ and /b/ can be interchanged in some utterances. Japanese learners, by virtue of the limited phonemic range of their L1, cannot always comprehend these sounds, resulting in "jeeBA".

Relatedly, "green Jeep" would be pronounced "guriinu jiipu" ("goo-ree-noo Jee-poo") , and not "jiipa".

Hope this helps.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:This is basically the new "Minelba/Minerva".

Except for the fact "Minerva" has a base in the Latin language. "Gregevor", on the other hand, does not.

No, but this is a romaji transcription of a katakana term, so it is similar in that someone at Takara converted an unknown katakana word (back) into romaji. In both cases, all the staff had to do was check online or a dictionary for help.

Takara is to English, what Hasbro is to stock photography/posing toys.

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Or the N in Poke Mon?

Precisely.

ポケモン (Pokemon)

Or in "Megatron" (メガトロン Megatoron)

'Course, it's the only letter that caps off a syllable without a vowel sound. Everything else has a vowel sound attached it.

To add to the confusion, the sound is interchangeable with /m/ (as an end sound). For example, there is a station in Chiba with two romaji signs, showing "Kahin Makuhari" and "KahiM Makuhari" next to each other.

primalxconvoy wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Or the N in Poke Mon?

Precisely.

ポケモン (Pokemon)

Or in "Megatron" (メガトロン Megatoron)

'Course, it's the only letter that caps off a syllable without a vowel sound. Everything else has a vowel sound attached it.

To add to the confusion, the sound is interchangeable with /m/ (as an end sound). For example, there is a station in Chiba with two romaji signs, showing "Kahin Makuhari" and "KahiM Makuhari" next to each other.

I think that has more to do with the fact that "n" can glide into an "m" when directly followed by any "m"-kana, ハンマー (hanma for "hammer" for instance. Also, at least the "h"-kana with either the dakuten or handakuten can make an "n" turn into an "m": コンピュータ (konpyūta) for "Computer" or サンバ (sanba) for "Samba".

The kana for mu, む/ム, was originally used for the n sound as well, while ん was originally a hentaigana used for both n and mu. In the 1900 Japanese script reforms, hentaigana were officially declared obsolete, and ん was officially declared a kana to represent the n sound.

- http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/N_(kana)

I think it was just the obsolete form of katakana.

So that giant Prime appears to be based off those animation stills we saw. Too bad it doesn't come with a weapon all its own. I also find it funny that one of its features is a sliding panel for the QR code.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:So that giant Prime appears to be based off those animation stills we saw. Too bad it doesn't come with a weapon all its own. I also find it funny that one of its features is a sliding panel for the QR code.

Yeah they thought ahead!

Cool I'm a Micromaster now cool! Lol

Silly wrote:Cool I'm a Micromaster now cool! Lol

Wait untill you're a pretender. That'll REALLY float your boat.

RhA wrote:

Silly wrote:Cool I'm a Micromaster now cool! Lol

Wait untill you're a pretender. That'll REALLY float your boat.

They're epic marksmen, due to the number of hits:

- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=deB71e_X7rs

primalxconvoy wrote:

RhA wrote:

Silly wrote:Cool I'm a Micromaster now cool! Lol

Wait untill you're a pretender. That'll REALLY float your boat.

They're epic marksmen, due to the number of hits:

- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=deB71e_X7rs

I was just trying to make myself look like a noob.

HUGE NEWS guys. I know I have been waiting on this for a really long time. They finally revealed the deco for TAV Drift, Adams (Cosmos), Powerglide AND the Steeljaw redeco (which is completely different from what I thought it would be):



Do you guys spot many changes with the original figures?


Transformers: Robots In Disguise (2015) Drift Gallery


Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Powerglide Gallery


Transformers Generations Cosmos Gallery

WHOA, Drift looks great! The Steeljaw redo looks super duper too. Is it Prowl? Is it Clampdown? Quick, somebody get over here and translate. Jelze, Sabr, where you at?

I don't see much difference in Cosmos and Power Glide. I'm gonna go ahead and say I like CW PG better. That scan code sticker is slightly unfortunate.

Cobotron wrote:WHOA, Drift looks great! The Steeljaw redo looks super duper too. Is it Prowl? Is it Clampdown? Quick, somebody get over here and translate. Jelze, Sabr, where you at?

I don't see much difference in Cosmos and Power Glide. I'm gonna go ahead and say I like CW PG better. That scan code sticker is slightly unfortunate.

I see NO difference for Cosmos, to the point that I still feel this is a stand in figure from Hasbro. And Steeljaw is surely prowl. I am still not sold on drift though, I have to see his face. Extra paint on the lower legs is not enough for me.

Drift isn't hugely different, but the extra paint apps on his shins look nice, and I assume because it's the Takara release they'll bother to paint in his 'stache.

I don't know what's up with that Steeljaw redeco, but I like it. Shame the mold is awful though.

Hasbro's Powerglide is definitely the superior version, but there's not much difference with Cosmos (except for the moved and downsized autobot symbol; again, I like the look of the Hasbro version better).

Cobotron wrote:WHOA, Drift looks great! The Steeljaw redo looks super duper too. Is it Prowl? Is it Clampdown? Quick, somebody get over here and translate. Jelze, Sabr, where you at?

Clamp Down is the crab remember?

That Steeljaw redeco is called "Phantomjaw", with a deco similar in theme to Strongarm. Except he's evil and is more similar to Barricade

I don't see much difference in Cosmos and Power Glide. I'm gonna go ahead and say I like CW PG better. That scan code sticker is slightly unfortunate.

Yeah, go for the US versions as the Japanese versions omit the Micromaster (if any) and have the scan code sticker. No exceptions.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Clamp Down is the crab remember?

Oh ya. Duuuuuuuh.

william-james88 wrote:I see NO difference for Cosmos, to the point that I still feel this is a stand in figure from Hasbro.

Look very closely at Takara figure's torso, shoulders, and face.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I see NO difference for Cosmos, to the point that I still feel this is a stand in figure from Hasbro.

Look very closely at Takara figure's torso, shoulders, and face.

It's really not that obvious.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I see NO difference for Cosmos, to the point that I still feel this is a stand in figure from Hasbro.

Look very closely at Takara figure's torso, shoulders, and face.

It's really not that obvious.

That's why I suggested looking "very closely". As you said, the differences aren't as obvious from a distance.