huryochagi wrote:I can't wait to get this one and Shockwave. They both look great.
Likewise! And Tracks and Ironhide.
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:the point is that you are only assuming that optimus was aa prime before getting the matrix
In the cartoon continuity there was no such thing as "a Prime."
"Optimus Prime" (Best of the Best) was his name, not rank.
When Hot Rod took his mantle he was renamed after Optimus Prime to homage the fallen leader. ("Rod" from Hot Rod, "imus Prime" from OP.)
Re the visual
chart, the fact remains that when Ultra Magnus had the Matrix he was unchanged in name or appearance. Likewise when Optimus Prime got it back.
He is Optimus Prime with and without the Matrix.
OP & UM were built big and strong. They were built to be leaders/commanders. Hot Rod was built as one of the Autobot cars (like Sideswipe, Prowl, etc) so he was changed by the Matrix.
Whenever Rodimus Prime loses the Matrix he shrinks down to Hot Rod. When OP & UP have it or not, they remain the same. Because that's who they "truly" are.
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:useing the word "created" was never the right way to describe what was done
and either way the cartoon continuity never trully established eXactly how Alpha Trion accomplished the task
ALPHA TRION: Excuse me. If that young robot needs repairs, I suggest you take him to the next city.
SLINGSHOT: Aww, you've gotta help!
ALPHA TRION: Hhh, take a look inside. They've been pouring in since this morning. I had been developing a way to rebuild our robots to fight the Decepticons, but now...
SILVERBOLT: Please. J-just take a look at him.
ALPHA TRION: Huh... I do detect a strong spirit within him. I'll tell you what. I'm going to attempt to rebuild him entirely.[WAR DAWN]
FIREFLIGHT: Now we've got to try to help Ariel.
OPTIMUS PRIME: Yes. Can you reconstruct her as you did me?
ALPHA TRION: Perhaps I can try a similar reconstruction using your schematics. I'll send some droids out for her.[WAR DAWN]