Seibertron.com Energon Pub Forums

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:Just one more example of why Beast Machines is the best Transformers line.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/-FMB6dTSkoE[/youtube]

Remove the "https://youtu.be/" part from the brackets to make it work:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

MaximalNui wrote:Wait, so does that mean they're reusing the Shockwave animation model as well and just changing the textures, or is it just the same cost-saving measure we saw in the first waves of Cyberverse itself?

We don't know yet what Shockwave looks like in the show

False, we know exactly what he looks like from ghd clips!

Can you please share a screenshot?

Kinda bummed that Shockwave is just a Cyberverse repaint. I loved that show and enjoyed the toyline, but I was hoping for a new mold shockwave, or better yet a different character in the deluxe.

The Deluxe optimus looks real nice, I like it a lot!

The warriors also look sharp. I won't get Megatron because of the deluxe coming, but he is still good looking. And Thrash is a pleasant surprise, he and Elita are my 2 warrior purchases to date, they both look good.

Now, where is a good 50's model Arcee?

william-james88 wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

MaximalNui wrote:Wait, so does that mean they're reusing the Shockwave animation model as well and just changing the textures, or is it just the same cost-saving measure we saw in the first waves of Cyberverse itself?

We don't know yet what Shockwave looks like in the show

False, we know exactly what he looks like from ghd clips!

Can you please share a screenshot?

Oops. My tired brain thought you said Soundwave. Sorry for getting your Hopes up!

For those curious about the soon to be released Earthspark deluxe Megatron, there is now a review up. Here we can get a good idea of the scale, with comparisons to Cyberverse deluxe Megatron and Shockwave (who will be rereleased in this line) and it also shows us the figure from the back and the alt mode at several angles. We see how the canon attaches to the helicopter in alt mode too, completing the look.

Here is the review form PrimevsPrime along with some screenshots.

That Megs truly have a weird face.
As if it's someone else just pretending to be Megs.

I agree, the face is weird

I see it now that you mention it...

As a fan of the Megatron character, I gotta say I'm not impressed by the Earthspark offerings so far. I didn't really need the video review to conclude that the figures look cheap.

"But they're made for KIDS - ya gotta unnerstand!"

Yeah, I get that. But I've seen other kids toys that look a hekkuvva lot better than these. And poor Megatron - that face looks all gormless and simpering. A far fall for the leader of the Decepticons. Small, hollow, flimsy - all perfectly cruel and perfectly accurate descriptions. I skipped out on pretty much the entire Cyberverse line because the figures looked too child-like for my taste. But at least they had some that appear to have been decently engineered, and they seemed to give proper respect to Megatron. But I see little evidence of that so far for Earthspark. I hope the kids like 'em - but I sure don't.

DeathReviews wrote:As a fan of the Megatron character, I gotta say I'm not impressed by the Earthspark offerings so far. I didn't really need the video review to conclude that the figures look cheap.

"But they're made for KIDS - ya gotta unnerstand!"

Yeah, I get that. But I've seen other kids toys that look a hekkuvva lot better than these. And poor Megatron - that face looks all gormless and simpering. A far fall for the leader of the Decepticons. Small, hollow, flimsy - all perfectly cruel and perfectly accurate descriptions. I skipped out on pretty much the entire Cyberverse line because the figures looked too child-like for my taste. But at least they had some that appear to have been decently engineered, and they seemed to give proper respect to Megatron. But I see little evidence of that so far for Earthspark. I hope the kids like 'em - but I sure don't.

Finally, a sane man! Everyone keeps telling me I expect too much from kids toys. But I just hate the prospect of ripping of kids, they don't know what's good or what's crap. There are some good kids transformers toys, but sometimes they are hard to see in a sea of cyberverse one steps shockwaves.

I don't like the vehemence that he comes across with his complaints, never have. And every figure does not need to be an engineering Marvel. Complaining about a figure that has Ankle Tilts, and enough range for most normal humanoid poses because it doesn't tip far enough for your liking is bizarre. And complaining about its plane mode whilst you have it balanced on a flight stand by his Accessory and not a structural part of the figure seems counterintuitive. There aren't many figures I would trust would be supported by an attached piece like that.

But he raises some fair points this does feel overly simple for the price point. Maybe thT is a trade off for other figures in the wave, but given that one is a Retool and the other a redeco that seems unlikely.

Flashwave wrote:I don't like the vehemence that he comes across with his complaints, never have. And every figure does not need to be an engineering Marvel. Complaining about a figure that has Ankle Tilts, and enough range for most normal humanoid poses because it doesn't tip far enough for your liking is bizarre. And complaining about its plane mode whilst you have it balanced on a flight stand by his Accessory and not a structural part of the figure seems counterintuitive. There aren't many figures I would trust would be supported by an attached piece like that.

But he raises some fair points this does feel overly simple for the price point. Maybe thT is a trade off for other figures in the wave, but given that one is a Retool and the other a redeco that seems unlikely.

Same old excuses. Lack of ankle tilts and wrists swivels can be lived without. But megatron is the SAME PRICE as a deluxe figure, so shouldn't he meet those standards? The kids toy is the OTHER earthspark megatron, this one has no excuse for being short of the deluxe standard.

DeathReviews wrote:As a fan of the Megatron character, I gotta say I'm not impressed by the Earthspark offerings so far. I didn't really need the video review to conclude that the figures look cheap.

"But they're made for KIDS - ya gotta unnerstand!"

Yeah, I get that. But I've seen other kids toys that look a hekkuvva lot better than these. And poor Megatron - that face looks all gormless and simpering. A far fall for the leader of the Decepticons. Small, hollow, flimsy - all perfectly cruel and perfectly accurate descriptions. I skipped out on pretty much the entire Cyberverse line because the figures looked too child-like for my taste. But at least they had some that appear to have been decently engineered, and they seemed to give proper respect to Megatron. But I see little evidence of that so far for Earthspark. I hope the kids like 'em - but I sure don't.

I think we should at least compare apples to apples. If you say a warrior class toy looks cheap compared to a legacy deluxe, well no **** sherlock, it's a cheaper toy. Regardless if its made for kids, we arent comparing the same thing.

However, comparing this deluxe megatron to a legacy deluxe (which I think you are doing) is fair game. The RID warrior class toys were great examples of toys made just for kids that were on par with toys of similar price points in the Generations line. And many, myself included, argued that they were the better product on the shelf at the time. I mean you had deluxe CW Deadend on the shelf at the same time as Warrior Class Thunderhoof and Fracture. Those were some of the best toys that year. So yeah, a deluxe Megatron should not be cheap, it should be as good a toy as a deluxe from Legacy or Studio Series. I personally really loved deluxe Cyberverse Bumblebee, Slag, Optimus, Arcee and Soundwave. All those toys were on par with similarly priced toys of other lines.

As for cheaper toys, like the one steps, I have 0 problems since they are a perfect stepstone drug for the harder stuff later, and some are very well made for the age group. And they are sold at a cheaper price point.

william-james88 wrote:As for cheaper toys, like the one steps, I have 0 problems since they are a perfect stepstone drug for the harder stuff later, and some are very well made for the age group. And they are sold at a cheaper price point.

admitting the worst, eh? One step chanhers dont need to be majic, I have and like repugnus, but when you look at a figure like Cyberverse one step bumblebee (the one made new for cyberverse), you know they could do better with the budget.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:As for cheaper toys, like the one steps, I have 0 problems since they are a perfect stepstone drug for the harder stuff later, and some are very well made for the age group. And they are sold at a cheaper price point.

admitting the worst, eh? One step chanhers dont need to be majic, I have and like repugnus, but when you look at a figure like Cyberverse one step bumblebee (the one made new for cyberverse), you know they could do better with the budget.

Firstly, I was making a play on words.

Also, one step bumblebee is great, it's a fun design that works really well for younger kids (like 2 years old). My kid loves that toy and it got him into more transformers toys. They could add more paint if that's what you are getting at, but in terms of transformation design, they really hit a sweet spot for young kids.

william-james88 wrote:Also, one step bumblebee is great, it's a fun design that works really well for younger kids (like 2 years old). My kid loves that toy and it got him into more transformers toys. They could add more paint if that's what you are getting at, but in terms of transformation design, they really hit a sweet spot for young kids.

Optimus Prime move forward, point to his Autobot army then said in a dramatic tone:
"Megatron must be stopped. No matter the cost!."
The Autobots cheer!
Then Optimus cry:
"AUTOBOTS, TRANSFO...."
Silence.
"Hum. AUTOBOTS, MARCH!"

-- A child playing with Transformers, but with complex 3P and Masterpieces instead of the easy 1-steps, 3-steps, and Warrior class toys.

...
I don't wan't to restate my still valid point

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:...
I don't wan't to restate my still valid point

At that point, you'll need a parachute to get off that sky-high horse you're riding.

-Kanrabat- wrote:you'll need a parachute to get off that sky-high horse you're riding.

Yes, it is a beautiful horse

william-james88 wrote:
Here is the review along with some screenshots.

Thanks again for 100% supporting YouTubers with such specific moral compassary! They couldn't make it in life without places like Seibertron behind them all the way!

The TF community salutes you for such peachy tips!

...

primalxconvoy wrote:

william-james88 wrote:
Here is the review along with some screenshots.

Thanks again for 100% supporting YouTubers with such specific moral compassary! They couldn't make it in life without places like Seibertron behind them all the way!

The TF community salutes you for such peachy tips!...

Thank you again for your off-topic post that repeats the same content from the past couple years at this point.

We'll be talking later in private, so kindly don't respond to this post or provide further commentary on youtube reviewers outside of their video content related to the quality of the TF being reviewed.

I think the new Megatron looks good. I like how the fusion cannon becomes part of the wings/turbines. and i like the sculpt, it looks good. i agree face looks a bit iffy, but i still like it.

I liked the Cyberverse Megatron, and this looks about on par with that, so i will be excited to handle the mold.

Emerje wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

william-james88 wrote:
Here is the review along with some screenshots.

Thanks again for 100% supporting YouTubers with such specific moral compassary! They couldn't make it in life without places like Seibertron behind them all the way!

The TF community salutes you for such peachy tips!

...

Enjoy your Transformers knockoffs.

Emerje

I will indeed continue to enjoy perfectly legal products whilst being upfront and honest about what they were procured and/or where they were bought from, thanks!

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

william-james88 wrote:
Here is the review along with some screenshots.

Thanks again for 100% supporting YouTubers with such specific moral compassary! They couldn't make it in life without places like Seibertron behind them all the way!

The TF community salutes you for such peachy tips!...

[color=#40BF00]Thank you again for your off-topic post that repeats the same content from the past couple years at this point.

Not at all. I've simply given credit where credit is due. Nothing but positivity and support in the my previous post, which I think is worth doing so whenever possible. This is a great website, with fine, morally upstanding staff. The TF community is a better place with you all and your efforts posting YouTube reviews of this nature.

As for PMs, you could have done that with your post above. However, I regret that these days, I don't check this site as much as I used to, due to a focus on more relevant/recent TF news elsewhere. Still, is always a pleasure to highlight the hard work and robust moral backbone of this site. Keep it up!