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Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:13 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:So who exactly is Minimus Ambus? Is he the sentient being inside the body, and Magnus is just his transtector?

In the IDW continuity, the original Ultra Magnus died at some point at the beginning of the war. After which, Tyrest the chief justice of Cybertron decided that the legacy of the lawman needed to continue, so he commissioned the creation of Magnus Armor. This magnus armor would be handed down to a loadbearer secretly chosen by Tyrest to take on the role of Ultra Magnus and serve as the Duly Appointed Enforcer of the Tyrest Accord. Seeing as it's a legacy, these loadbearers die eventually, and a new one is chosen, Minmus Ambus/Freddie Mercury was the latest, and might as well be ultra magnus for all intents and purposes. After one of the MTMTE arcs the magnus project is technically decommissioned and replaced with Star Saber, effectively making Minimus the last person to take the title of Ultra Magnus.

It's really just taking the idea of the little guy in the original Magnus toy and trying to do something interesting with it, instead of it being Ultra Magnus is really just a white prime in armor.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:18 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:So who exactly is Minimus Ambus? Is he the sentient being inside the body, and Magnus is just his transtector?

In the IDW continuity, the original Ultra Magnus died at some point at the beginning of the war. After which, Tyrest the chief justice of Cybertron decided that the legacy of the lawman needed to continue, so he commissioned the creation of Magnus Armor. This magnus armor would be handed down to a loadbearer secretly chosen by Tyrest to take on the role of Ultra Magnus and serve as the Duly Appointed Enforcer of the Tyrest Accord. Seeing as it's a legacy, these loadbearers die eventually, and a new one is chosen, Minmus Ambus/Freddie Mercury was the latest, and might as well be ultra magnus for all intents and purposes. After one of the MTMTE arcs the magnus project is technically decommissioned and replaced with Star Saber, effectively making Minimus the last person to take the title of Ultra Magnus.
Thank you. So this version of Magnus is the one in the MTMTE books, or did it just come around in the CW comics (he being a CW Leader)? I'm about to finally crack open Volume 1 of MTMTE, so I don't know these things. Yet.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:23 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:So who exactly is Minimus Ambus? Is he the sentient being inside the body, and Magnus is just his transtector?

In the IDW continuity, the original Ultra Magnus died at some point at the beginning of the war. After which, Tyrest the chief justice of Cybertron decided that the legacy of the lawman needed to continue, so he commissioned the creation of Magnus Armor. This magnus armor would be handed down to a loadbearer secretly chosen by Tyrest to take on the role of Ultra Magnus and serve as the Duly Appointed Enforcer of the Tyrest Accord. Seeing as it's a legacy, these loadbearers die eventually, and a new one is chosen, Minmus Ambus/Freddie Mercury was the latest, and might as well be ultra magnus for all intents and purposes. After one of the MTMTE arcs the magnus project is technically decommissioned and replaced with Star Saber, effectively making Minimus the last person to take the title of Ultra Magnus.
Thank you. So this version of Magnus is the one in the MTMTE books, or did it just come around in the CW comics (he being a CW Leader)? I'm about to finally crack open Volume 1 of MTMTE, so I don't know these things. Yet.


This ultra magnus figure is essentially just a generations leader class like jetfire, it has no relation to the combiner wars outside of being released with those toys. Think of it kinda like how the early generations toys like trubo tracks and they got lumped in with movie toys. This is the Ultra magnus in MTMTE, and he dosen't appear in combiner wars.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:29 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:I don't care about minimus, but what was wrong with your magnus? I don't mind paying a bit more for TT figures if part of that money is for much, much higher qc.
Double of the inside left shoulder part (where shoulder connects to torso), I tried to "fix it" and uh, well I guess I did but it didn't go so well! He can transform now, which he couldn't out of the box, but he's got quite an ugly spot or two of mangled plastic. When I got mine, it was one of the first ones that Amazon got in, and there wasn't an option to exchange it anywhere :/


Yeah, that sucks, well mine can't form it's legs :-x

I do feel, that this 'new' or 'cheap' plastic, while seeming to remain sturdy while being nearly translucently thin, is much more prone to stressing and having qc issues, can't believe I paid $45 for him, he feels like he should be $40 at most >:oP


I believe all these leaders should be 40 at the most. I mean, think about it, they are currently priced at the same price of this bad boy below, something doesnt add up.


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I paid 30$ for Jetfire and 41$ (30$ US) for Ultra magnus and I find that perfectly fair. I think I paid the same for Leader Grimlock too from AOE (who started this whole new trend in leader class figures).

Oh man, this makes me think of the fun Ultra and Leader figures we had in the past. Like Cybertron Jetfire, now that was a fun toy worth his retail price.


It adds up to corporate greed (or something similar) They use as few a paint apps and colors as possible, they make the figures as hollow as possible, they cashed in on cw repaints instead of making several new figures, they inflate the prices all while making them as cheaply and as hollow as possible, now they're turning up with a slew of qc issues for it. And they've long since ceased to use electronics and 'firing' missles, while I don't miss them, it does make you wonder what else is going to go before they can't raise their prices any higher and still sell them :BANG_HEAD:


I have to agree(with the corporate greed thing & the thin plastic thing too) coz when I bought Platinum Edition Perceptor & Blaster set not that long ago, the plastic that Blaster is made out of feels rather thin, cheap & almost KO quality, & not something worth the price paid for it. But we all know that Hasbro ect are in it for the money.....but time & time again we seem to fall for their same old tricks of them teasing us into buying new figures or existing ones with new paint apps, only to find out that there's a multitude of faults with the figures & the plastic used is sub-standard compared to the original G1 toys. We've all been guilty of it(giving into temptation) & we all must be crazy! but it always boils down to the same old rhetoric....in that we MUST have that figure to add to our collection.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby peaces » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:42 pm

the g1 figures broke a lot more
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:43 pm

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:So who exactly is Minimus Ambus? Is he the sentient being inside the body, and Magnus is just his transtector?

In the IDW continuity, the original Ultra Magnus died at some point at the beginning of the war. After which, Tyrest the chief justice of Cybertron decided that the legacy of the lawman needed to continue, so he commissioned the creation of Magnus Armor. This magnus armor would be handed down to a loadbearer secretly chosen by Tyrest to take on the role of Ultra Magnus and serve as the Duly Appointed Enforcer of the Tyrest Accord. Seeing as it's a legacy, these loadbearers die eventually, and a new one is chosen, Minmus Ambus/Freddie Mercury was the latest, and might as well be ultra magnus for all intents and purposes. After one of the MTMTE arcs the magnus project is technically decommissioned and replaced with Star Saber, effectively making Minimus the last person to take the title of Ultra Magnus.
Thank you. So this version of Magnus is the one in the MTMTE books, or did it just come around in the CW comics (he being a CW Leader)? I'm about to finally crack open Volume 1 of MTMTE, so I don't know these things. Yet.


This ultra magnus figure is essentially just a generations leader class like jetfire, it has no relation to the combiner wars outside of being released with those toys. Think of it kinda like how the early generations toys like trubo tracks and they got lumped in with movie toys. This is the Ultra magnus in MTMTE, and he dosen't appear in combiner wars.

And he's a damn good character and figure! :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:34 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:It adds up to corporate greed (or something similar) They use as few a paint apps and colors as possible, they make the figures as hollow as possible, they cashed in on cw repaints instead of making several new figures, they inflate the prices all while making them as cheaply and as hollow as possible, now they're turning up with a slew of qc issues for it. And they've long since ceased to use electronics and 'firing' missles, while I don't miss them, it does make you wonder what else is going to go before they can't raise their prices any higher and still sell them :BANG_HEAD:


The firing missiles is super bizarre because they were included in the commander figures of just last year. A big shift happened between last year and this year where the legends class figures no longer came with that targetmaster partner and legion class figures no longer came with weapons.

I do understand all the frustrating QC issues but I dont find Hasbro as greedy as you make them out to be. If they were truly greedy we wouldnt have any of the stuff we have now and there would just be action figures of Optimus and Bumblebee that dont transform. Way cheaper to produce. But instead they still comission the best toy engineers in the world to come up with smart transformations. The QC and cheaper material and lack of paint you see is what Hasbro has to do to keep the shareholders happy by lowering cost. Toys dont sell as much as they used to due to video games and other kinds of entertainment that wasnt as readily available/affordable 20-30 years ago. So no matter how much hasbro pushes their marketing, the way to increase profits is not to increase sales but to reduce cost. Tomy is also publicly traded (and their stock price sank since 2009 and only recently got back up) so I dont know how they can afford their higher standard of quality as compared to Hasbro.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:15 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:It adds up to corporate greed (or something similar) They use as few a paint apps and colors as possible, they make the figures as hollow as possible, they cashed in on cw repaints instead of making several new figures, they inflate the prices all while making them as cheaply and as hollow as possible, now they're turning up with a slew of qc issues for it. And they've long since ceased to use electronics and 'firing' missles, while I don't miss them, it does make you wonder what else is going to go before they can't raise their prices any higher and still sell them :BANG_HEAD:


The firing missiles is super bizarre because they were included in the commander figures of just last year. A big shift happened between last year and this year where the legends class figures no longer came with that targetmaster partner and legion class figures no longer came with weapons.

I do understand all the frustrating QC issues but I dont find Hasbro as greedy as you make them out to be. If they were truly greedy we wouldnt have any of the stuff we have now and there would just be action figures of Optimus and Bumblebee that dont transform. Way cheaper to produce. But instead they still comission the best toy engineers in the world to come up with smart transformations. The QC and cheaper material and lack of paint you see is what Hasbro has to do to keep the shareholders happy by lowering cost. Toys dont sell as much as they used to due to video games and other kinds of entertainment that wasnt as readily available/affordable 20-30 years ago. So no matter how much hasbro pushes their marketing, the way to increase profits is not to increase sales but to reduce cost. Tomy is also publicly traded (and their stock price sank since 2009 and only recently got back up) so I dont know how they can afford their higher standard of quality as compared to Hasbro.


I get it, but I do think that if all they did was release action-masters, they would get zero sales.

They tread a thin line to get us the highest quality figures they can while maximizing profits; I get it; but at the same time, we are definitley getting the shaft: no targetmasters, thin plastic that stresses and cracks, minimal paint apps, minimal colors (plastic or otherwise), no electronics, no gimmicks, no features, no firing missles, hollow/cheap feeling figures, and a slew of qc issues and effortless repaints ('84 teams). All of this while being asked to pay continuously inflated prices; To paraphrase Thew "I'm not upset, just disappointed" :(
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:40 pm

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I would like to say though that we do get ringers and winners.

CW Megatron is a great example:

1) He's really sturdy and has some heft to him

2) He is beautifully painted and sculpted

3) Rubber moving treads, good firing missile system

4) sticker options

5) Pretty good posability

Overall, I think Megs is a true winner. Just throwing out a mold I think is a ringer :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:13 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I would like to say though that we do get ringers and winners.

CW Megatron is a great example:

1) He's really sturdy and has some heft to him

2) He is beautifully painted and sculpted

3) Rubber moving treads, good firing missile system

4) sticker options

5) Pretty good posability

Overall, I think Megs is a true winner. Just throwing out a mold I think is a ringer :BOT:


It is pretty nice, but a few more weeks on the design table couldn't have hurt; those shoulders are atrocious, will never like this mold because of that >:oP
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:54 am

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I would like to say though that we do get ringers and winners.

CW Megatron is a great example:

1) He's really sturdy and has some heft to him

2) He is beautifully painted and sculpted

3) Rubber moving treads, good firing missile system

4) sticker options

5) Pretty good posability

Overall, I think Megs is a true winner. Just throwing out a mold I think is a ringer :BOT:


It is pretty nice, but a few more weeks on the design table couldn't have hurt; those shoulders are atrocious, will never like this mold because of that >:oP
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:08 am

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If being bad looks this sweet, I don't wanna be good! :CON:

No comics, huh? :-?

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Agamemnon » Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:33 am

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No comics, huh? :-?

Edit: Also, looks like Brawl and Swindle come with the same hand/feet. That's a first. Matching toes!

Well, this is the international packaging, so I would think comics are a definite possibility for the US.

These are almost too b-e-a-utiful to take out of the packaging. Almost...
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:52 am

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Agamemnon wrote:
Cobotron wrote:If being bad looks this sweet, I don't wanna be good! :CON:

No comics, huh? :-?

Edit: Also, looks like Brawl and Swindle come with the same hand/feet. That's a first. Matching toes!

Well, this is the international packaging, so I would think comics are a definite possibility for the US.

These are almost too b-e-a-utiful to take out of the packaging. Almost...


We already saw the comics here:

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Agamemnon » Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:54 am

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Agamemnon wrote:
Cobotron wrote:If being bad looks this sweet, I don't wanna be good! :CON:

No comics, huh? :-?

Edit: Also, looks like Brawl and Swindle come with the same hand/feet. That's a first. Matching toes!

Well, this is the international packaging, so I would think comics are a definite possibility for the US.

These are almost too b-e-a-utiful to take out of the packaging. Almost...


We already saw the comics here:

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/inhand-images-transformers-generations-combiner-wars-combaticons-and-bruticus/33943/

That's right! Woot!
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Official Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Combaticons

Postby Va'al » Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:55 am

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SWINDLE LIVES! While we have seen the upcoming Combaticons from the Combiner Wars line in-hand, we have not seen their international packaging close-up - and from the latest notification via the Facebook group Transformers Addicts, it looks like at least they will be only carded again. Check out below the mirrored images for Brawl, Blast Off, Swindle and Vortex, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub!

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Postby Down_Shift » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:10 am

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Mkall » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:18 am

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby It Is Him » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:40 am

They all look nice. The Blast Off head is the only thing I would change.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:53 am

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No shot of Onslaught? Also, is it safe to say that by the reactions so far, everyone's favorite is Swindle?

How hard would it be for Hasbro to repaint Hot Spot into Inferno? With a different head, of course.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby RhA » Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:53 am

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It Is Him wrote:They all look nice. The Blast Off head is the only thing I would change.

Ah! It's recolored... I missed that. Well, at least his altmode makes sense this time around. The entire set looks awesome. Can't wait. Mouthplate be damned.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Seibertron » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:07 am

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Down_Shift wrote:Link is broken on Brawl, but the set looks good despite minor annoyances.

Looking forward to these coming out soon.


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