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Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:28 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Did any of the rumors speculate a a sixth Legends teammate?
It would have to be a weapon guy, right? Since no one can connect to the Silverbolt mold, it would have to be either Shockwave or Power Glide.

Although a reuse of Cosmos some how would be interesting.


He could be an interstellar frisbee :michaelbay:
The present rumor is that the Cosmos mold is to have a release in TR as a toy of Scrounge.


Which I really want :PRAY:

Having missed out on the mold, I would kill for cool :CON: version to chill with Shockwave 8-)
Scrounge is an Autobot.


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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:31 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Did any of the rumors speculate a a sixth Legends teammate?
It would have to be a weapon guy, right? Since no one can connect to the Silverbolt mold, it would have to be either Shockwave or Power Glide.

Although a reuse of Cosmos some how would be interesting.


He could be an interstellar frisbee :michaelbay:
The present rumor is that the Cosmos mold is to have a release in TR as a toy of Scrounge.


Which I really want :PRAY:

Having missed out on the mold, I would kill for cool :CON: version to chill with Shockwave 8-)
Scrounge is an Autobot.


What! Aww, that's bs, but what ufo-former was I thinking of (he may have been blue and beige) Image
This is Scrounge:

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Ultra Markus » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:45 pm

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thats fantastic, now here's to hoping for Abominus and maybe Predaking ;)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:47 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:thats fantastic, now here's to hoping for Abominus and maybe Predaking ;)


I think they'll happen but not for a little while.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:48 pm

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Burn wrote:I won't hold my breathe waiting for this to be a good release, I expect lazy from Hasbro. So I'll keep holding out for TT.

fenrir72 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:So if this Computron boxset is real... then Scattershot/Betatron is a lie! Treachery! Deception! Falsehood! Curse you, Hasbro!

In all seriousness, probably the only thing that will make me legitimately desire Computron as much as I did Superion, Defensor, Menasor, and BRUTICUS is if we got an accompanying Abominus. I believe in even teams, and having three Autobot combiners up against two Decepticon combiners is treason in my home!


Isn't Computron the combined form? All we have is the torso. Where are the extremities?


In the boxset maybe?


New molds? Not a peep yet on who'll make them up. Iirc, when Bruticus was first announced, we already had some images of the limb bots.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby no-one » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:51 pm

Cobotron wrote:Did any of the rumors speculate a a sixth Legends teammate?
It would have to be a weapon guy, right? Since no one can connect to the Silverbolt mold, it would have to be either Shockwave or Power Glide.

Although a reuse of Cosmos some how would be interesting.
It's likely that there would be a legends member, considering all the other combiners have one. But I don't remember seeing anything about another figure in the rumors. If memory serves me, this is most concrete info we've gotten so far.

Burn wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:So if this Computron boxset is real... then Scattershot/Betatron is a lie! Treachery! Deception! Falsehood! Curse you, Hasbro!

In all seriousness, probably the only thing that will make me legitimately desire Computron as much as I did Superion, Defensor, Menasor, and BRUTICUS is if we got an accompanying Abominus. I believe in even teams, and having three Autobot combiners up against two Decepticon combiners is treason in my home!


Isn't Computron the combined form? All we have is the torso. Where are the extremities?


In the boxset maybe?
Dats what the rumors say, but I'm hoping for individual releases because I'm only interested in that potential big motorcycle repaint/remold.

Sabrblade wrote:The present rumor is that the Cosmos mold is to have a release in TR as a toy of Scrounge.
I was in the middle of looking up that bot, when you posted what he looks like. So, he is a lil rolly guy? That would make a cool discus or other type of ranged melee weapon. I wonder if they would bother doing something to cover up the bottom so he would be symmetrical when on his side.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby RiddlerJ » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:58 pm

Mindmaster wrote:So if this Computron boxset is real... then Scattershot/Betatron is a lie! Treachery! Deception! Falsehood! Curse you, Hasbro!

In all seriousness, probably the only thing that will make me legitimately desire Computron as much as I did Superion, Defensor, Menasor, and BRUTICUS is if we got an accompanying Abominus. I believe in even teams, and having three Autobot combiners up against two Decepticon combiners is treason in my home!


Don't forget Devastator.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:04 pm

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Cobotron wrote:

Although a reuse of Cosmos some how would be interesting.


He could be an interstellar frisbee :michaelbay:
:lol: :lol: He already is!

I had almost forgotten, but Cosmos DOES work with that mold!

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This was back in my wacky, "slap anyone and everyone on a combiner as armor" days. Ah the joys of youth. :lol:
Actually this was one of my more stable improvs IIRC.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Zeedust » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:06 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Thinking about it, Computron is nice and all but I would like to see the other con combiners ;)


Abominus and Pirranacon would need new molds and IIRC Hasbro said they aren't planning beast combiners. Monstructor and Predaking have the same problems and weren't Scramble City style originally. Liokaiser isn't beasts, but wasn't Scramble City originally either. Battle Gaia would be possible, but they already put out a G2 Bruticus. This, sadly, also means we're unlikely to see a Ruination.

Bruticus Maximus from Energon would be too much like G1 Bruticus and too "potentially confusing" with the same name. Constructicon Maximus would probably be considered redundant with Devastator available, plus it would require new molds.

If they manage to slip Squawkbox into Titans Return, I may regain a tiny bit of the hope I lost when I saw it was going to be almost entirely Headmasters.

Hellscream9999 wrote:All of that was relative until wheeljack and ramhorn come out looking quite a bit like the technobots,


Did Wheeljack get something other than a new head and I missed it?

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Bounti76 wrote:I just hope it's not a lazy repaint, and that they at LEAST redo the combined head.


Amen brother. I think Hasbro had ridden the repaint train as long as they can. It's time for them to show there obvious talent and start creating!


I get the feeling that most if not all of their creative efforts at this point are probably going towards Titans Return and either what's left of RiD or the next movie. I'd love to be proven wrong, mind you.

Hellscream9999 wrote:I still think ball diameter may have something to do with it


You should probably expect this to be taken out of context at some point.

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That point is right now, apparently.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:09 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:The present rumor is that the Cosmos mold is to have a release in TR as a toy of Scrounge.
I was in the middle of looking up that bot, when you posted what he looks like. So, he is a lil rolly guy?
No need to beat around the bush, he's a wheel. :-P

And has a special arm (there is no other like it):

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Or had before Straxus disarmed him:

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And killed him, via a smelting pool:

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Blaster tried to save him, but...

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby no-one » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:11 pm

RiddlerJ wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:So if this Computron boxset is real... then Scattershot/Betatron is a lie! Treachery! Deception! Falsehood! Curse you, Hasbro!

In all seriousness, probably the only thing that will make me legitimately desire Computron as much as I did Superion, Defensor, Menasor, and BRUTICUS is if we got an accompanying Abominus. I believe in even teams, and having three Autobot combiners up against two Decepticon combiners is treason in my home!


Don't forget Devastator.
Devs doesn't get to come inside and play with the little kids. He has to stay outside with the teenagers, smoking cigarettes behind the tool shed.

Shouldn't we also count the other red headed step combiners? Ultra Prime, Galvatronus, Optimus Maximus, Betatron and Sky Reign? That still puts the bots way ahead of the cons. HelloScreamy may just be onto something ;)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Shockwave7 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:12 pm

Re-issue of Bombshell? It's a great figure yes, but where's legends Kickback to round off the Insecticon gang? Through a combo of regular purchases and dumb luck in the walmart clearance aisle, I have 3 each of Skrapnel and Bombshell. I'm hoping for a legends Kickback so I can complete my Insecticon swarm....
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby no-one » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:23 pm

Nemesis Primal wrote:Did Wheeljack get something other than a new head and I missed it?
Yup, his alt mode is heavly retooled to be more Wheeljacky.

Sabrblade wrote:"the sad tale of Scrounge"
Well bummer for Mr. Creepy Fingers and thanks for the info. Which comic series is that from anyway? Would it be from the "Classics"? I have a big chunk of those digitally from a humble bundle that I haven't gotten around to yet.

Shockwave7 wrote:but where's legends Kickback
If I second this, will it make it happen?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:25 pm

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Shockwave7 wrote:Re-issue of Bombshell? It's a great figure yes, but where's legends Kickback to round off the Insecticon gang? Through a combo of regular purchases and dumb luck in the walmart clearance aisle, I have 3 each of Skrapnel and Bombshell. I'm hoping for a legends Kickback so I can complete my Insecticon swarm....



well i've got the Platinum Edition Insecticons! for about £40(down from £70) in the December/January sales.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:30 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:"the sad tale of Scrounge"
Well bummer for Mr. Creepy Fingers and thanks for the info. Which comic series is that from anyway? Would it be from the "Classics"? I have a big chunk of those digitally from a humble bundle that I haven't gotten around to yet.
Marvel G1, issue 17, "Return to Cybertron, Part 1: The Smelting Pool". One of Bob Budiansky's best TF stories.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby RAR » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:32 pm

Cosmos has an (almost) 5mm hold in the bottom of his spaceship mode - so I guess that could be used to attach him to something - I suppose if you flip the barrel of Silverbolt's rifle upside-down you can use the 2nd pag to plug into Cosmos - in theory - if Cosmos was repainted as (either colour option of) Pathfinder that would be interesting for sure - the Original Gobot/Machine Robo/Robo Machine colours would even complement Computron's colours too.

It's a thought anyhow. I would rather that than Making Lightspeed out of Legends Groove and then making some other random thing like ROOK into a new Technobot - I would guess more people would prefer Takara's Deluxe Groove to be the basis of Afterburner - I expect remoulding him Chromia style might be a bit to much to hope for though - unless Takara has an equal interest in making a Computron set too and so designed Groove from the outset to be remolded into Afterburner too.

It might be a bit to much to hope for an extensive remould to make a more convincing Afterburner and Strafe and new heads all round too.

Unless Taakra is so crafty they have designed Blast Off to be remoulded to Strafe and Groove into Afterburner from the outset.. if they are that crafty - the Kudos to them.

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I suppose your Cosmos repaint/remould could be Scrounge if you wanted it to be they both are both flatten circular like shapes of a sort.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:38 pm

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RAR wrote:Unless Taakra is so crafty they have designed Blast Off to be remoulded to Strafe and Groove into Afterburner from the outset.. if they are that crafty - the Kudos to them.


I think Hasbro and Takara are very crafty.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby RAR » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:43 pm

Incidentally I don't mind if the do do Pathfinder - the Blue or the darker tone would both look nice with that mould.

http://www.tfu.info/Gobots/Guardians/Pa ... finder.htm
http://www.tfu.info/2004/Cybertron/Path ... finder.htm

I don't know if one of the JKO's that existed of iGear's version of Cosmos or the old Legends/legion class Cosmos ever got made in an appropriate colour- that would be interesting to try to discover I suppose.

Perhaps the older Cosmos Legends/legion mould would make an even better Scrounge - if they were to show any interest in making more non-RID legion toys sometime again via somewhere like General Dollar once more.

http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/TFUCosmos/cosmos.htm
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:45 pm

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Bounti76 wrote:I just hope it's not a lazy repaint, and that they at LEAST redo the combined head.


It probably wont be too far from this:

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Ultra Markus wrote:thats fantastic, now here's to hoping for Abominus and maybe Predaking ;)


Hasbro confirmed they wont be happening. Only vehicle combiners. And plus Predaking is probably being kept for a titan release down the road.

fenrir72 wrote:
New molds? Not a peep yet on who'll make them up. Iirc, when Bruticus was first announced, we already had some images of the limb bots.


Computron still hasnt been announced, this is just a leak. I am certain we will get confirmation of the molds once he is officially announced like Bruticus was.

Nemesis Primal wrote:
Did Wheeljack get something more than a head


Yeah, he has a completely different shell. The only thing that he shares with Breakdown is the transformation and maybe some joints.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Agregor » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:50 pm

Bounti76 wrote:I just hope it's not a lazy repaint, and that they at LEAST redo the combined head.


I wouldn't mind lazy repaints as long as Hasbro remolds them, like First Aid and Streetwise levels of remolding. But I'd like some new molds as well :]
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Zeedust » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:51 pm

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Did Wheeljack get something more than a head


Yeah, he has a completely different shell. The only thing that he shares with Breakdown is the transformation and maybe some joints.


Thanks. I see it now. (How the hell did I miss it before?)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:52 pm

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carytheone wrote:So if this is true, then basically what everyone has been speculating for sometime now.

Cool!

So, given this, we can put together a reasonable schedule for Toy Fair 2016:
The rest of TR wave 1
Fortress Maximus
Random RID stuff
Possible CW wave 7
Computron box set (screw it, this shouldn't be kept a secret anymore) :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE:


Thats not gonna happen. Firstly, there is no such thing as CW wave 5 and 6. They are seperated by years. We have 2016 wave 1 and 2. I am pretty certain that is it for combiner wars after that. As I said from the begining, if we get computron, it will not be as a standard retail release where all the limbs can be bought individually. That was pretty much confirmed when Hasbro said they would now always release the torso in the same wave as the limbs. Sice Scattershot was released without the limbs that meant Computron would either be a box set or not be released at all. So this was called a long time ago. Pretty certain the Skylynx wave is the last CW wave of 2016 with individual limbs on the shelves.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby no-one » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:56 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
carytheone wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:"the sad tale of Scrounge"
Well bummer for Mr. Creepy Fingers and thanks for the info. Which comic series is that from anyway? Would it be from the "Classics"? I have a big chunk of those digitally from a humble bundle that I haven't gotten around to yet.
Marvel G1, issue 17, "Return to Cybertron, Part 1: The Smelting Pool". One of Bob Budiansky's best TF stories.
Awesome, thanks bud! I have Classics vol 1-4 sitting on my tablet, a thermos full of coffee and nothing better to do tonight. >:oP

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:59 pm

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I might get sh!t for this but swap out the rook for brawl and I'd be happy with this
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Autobot N » Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:07 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
carytheone wrote:So if this is true, then basically what everyone has been speculating for sometime now.

Cool!

So, given this, we can put together a reasonable schedule for Toy Fair 2016:
The rest of TR wave 1
Fortress Maximus
Random RID stuff
Possible CW wave 7
Computron box set (screw it, this shouldn't be kept a secret anymore) :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE:


Thats not gonna happen. Firstly, there is no such thing as CW wave 5 and 6. They are seperated by years. We have 2016 wave 1 and 2. I am pretty certain that is it for combiner wars after that. As I said from the begining, if we get computron, it will not be as a standard retail release where all the limbs can be bought individually. That was pretty much confirmed when Hasbro said they would now always release the torso in the same wave as the limbs. Sice Scattershot was released without the limbs that meant Computron would either be a box set or not be released at all. So this was called a long time ago. Pretty certain the Skylynx wave is the last CW wave of 2016 with individual limbs on the shelves.

I'm not referring to that as the official name, just using it as a term, since it would be the 7th wave with combiner figures. And (correct me if I'm wrong) wasn't the first TR wave supposed to be 2016 wave 4? Because if it was, then there should be another wave in there somewhere.
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