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Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Brokebot wrote:Never been a fan of those eye-bleeding colors. Another easy pass.

Come on, those colors work well together. It's not as extreme as Action Masters Thundercracker.

And those colors gave us Slipstream.

Didn't Wyatt say her colors were based on Overlord though? I agree G2 RJ would make more sense. His color scheme seemed to be the basis for Razormoon's, so I assumed they were Slipstream's too, until I read that footnote on TFWiki.

Ironically, this is making me want to finish up my Classics Seeker collection, as G2 Ramjet and SG Thundercracker are the last gaps I need filled. The ER Seeker mold's better, and I'll probably buy every redeco, but they'll probably never get to every official and KO color scheme I already have in deluxe size. No, I don't have Games of Deception either, but since those 3 were all redone eventually, I'll gladly take unofficial F-15 Rainmakers and purple generics instead.

Bumblevivisector wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Brokebot wrote:Never been a fan of those eye-bleeding colors. Another easy pass.

Come on, those colors work well together. It's not as extreme as Action Masters Thundercracker.

And those colors gave us Slipstream.

Didn't Wyatt say her colors were based on Overlord though? I agree G2 RJ would make more sense. His color scheme seemed to be the basis for Razormoon's, so I assumed they were Slipstream's too, until I read that footnote on TFWiki.

Yeah yeah, Wyatt insists that it's Overlord.

But, come on, Wyatt. Aside from the teal legs, there's nothing in common between Overlord and Slipstream. She's purple, not blue. While the color layouts don't match, purple and teal are G2 Ramjet's colors.

Sabrblade wrote:

skidflap wrote:"Gasp" Deep Cover?

Does this mean we're getting Clampdown from Siege Red Alert.

Wasn't in any of the leaks or listings that Deep Cover was, so probably not.

oh well. Still getting Deep Cover.

Bumblevivisector wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Brokebot wrote:Never been a fan of those eye-bleeding colors. Another easy pass.

Come on, those colors work well together. It's not as extreme as Action Masters Thundercracker.

And those colors gave us Slipstream.

Didn't Wyatt say her colors were based on Overlord though? I agree G2 RJ would make more sense. His color scheme seemed to be the basis for Razormoon's, so I assumed they were Slipstream's too, until I read that footnote on TFWiki.

Ironically, this is making me want to finish up my Classics Seeker collection, as G2 Ramjet and SG Thundercracker are the last gaps I need filled. The ER Seeker mold's better, and I'll probably buy every redeco, but they'll probably never get to every official and KO color scheme I already have in deluxe size. No, I don't have Games of Deception either, but since those 3 were all redone eventually, I'll gladly take unofficial F-15 Rainmakers and purple generics instead.

I held out for as long as I could using the same logic. I never got the ko Seekers, but I was convinced Hasbro would not outnumver the Classics Seeker collection. But with 5 Rainmaker Tetrajets (including Hotlink and Red Wing), now 8 Earthrise Molds, they did and I gave in.

I did have the Games of Deception Set, and did not like the Generations Thrust wing set up, so the only one I duplicated was a Dirge-colored-Ramjet. Ironically one of the few color combos not to pop up in G1, but its really easy to say oh look! New Seeker using Ramjet wings and Dirge colors! So if you do pick up GofD (and its a darned nice set. Still a better Bug Bite and a great Dreadwing to go with Universe Darkwind) you can always go that route.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Brokebot wrote:Never been a fan of those eye-bleeding colors. Another easy pass.

Come on, those colors work well together. It's not as extreme as Action Masters Thundercracker.

And those colors gave us Slipstream.

Hey, that's true!

G2 Ramjet could actually be R63 Splitstream.
This make him much more desirable now!

I would much prefer Slipstream had the F15 mold, or at least the standard head. If I had a head swap for her though that would fit this (is the nosecobe modded to fit the Conehead noggin?) I could go for that. But in the meantime I will stick with the Subscription Slipstream and make this one someone else. Still like G2 Ransack for the role.

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I really enjoy Paleotrex, but Transmutate is really going to have to be something special to convince me to get it. I just find that BW episode to be so disturbing and often skip it. It reminds me of the Newborn Alien from Alien Resurrection for some reason ( another film I don't watch). The pics on other sites just showed the one that came with the anniversary figures way back when....which reminds me....that was a Buid-a-figure correct?

As a major beast Wars fan, I admit that I so skip it as well. I find it disturbing too, especially due to her design. That face gives me the creeps.

Yeah, that design is nightmare fuel. Too bad too, its an episode that is not worthyof skipping otherwise. We see a Rampage who feels and an intriguing plot. But yeah, that thing beeded to be killed with fire

Oh no doubt, it's a well written episode, just hard to watch, especially sandwiched between Code of Hero and The Agenda, it would have been better if it came right after Rampages debut and before CoH.

o.supreme wrote:Oh no doubt, it's a well written episode, just hard to watch, especially sandwiched between Code of Hero and The Agenda, it would have been better if it came right after Rampages debut and before CoH.

The thing is, the episode references CoH in past tense when Optimus says "I'm not in the mood to lose any more friends."

Flashwave wrote:I did have the Games of Deception Set, and did not like the Generations Thrust wing set up,

Funny you should mention that, as I agree that Takara pegging the red parts on so he only has turbines on top of his wings was cheap and nonsensical. But since this was back in the days of yore, a whole decade ago, when deluxes still cost just $10, I found an easy solution: bought a second Thrust, and put its turbines on the undersides of the first one's wings, completing the jet mode in a way that makes it look even more powerful!

I wonder how many other fans did that, and still have a stripped down Generations Thrust lying around somewhere, waiting to be cannibalized for parts?

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Oh no doubt, it's a well written episode, just hard to watch, especially sandwiched between Code of Hero and The Agenda, it would have been better if it came right after Rampages debut and before CoH.

The thing is, the episode references CoH in past tense when Optimus says "I'm not in the mood to lose any more friends."

Tigatron and Airazor were still there?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Oh no doubt, it's a well written episode, just hard to watch, especially sandwiched between Code of Hero and The Agenda, it would have been better if it came right after Rampages debut and before CoH.

The thing is, the episode references CoH in past tense when Optimus says "I'm not in the mood to lose any more friends."

Tigatron and Airazor were still there?

No, they went MIA in the End-of-Season 2 2-parter.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:they went MIA in the End-of-Season 2 2-parter.

So they were still there during the Transmutate episode. I just asked in case Primal could have said that line about them instead of Dinobot. But I guess not.

Could we get a straight redeco of Dinobot into BW Grimlock in Selects?

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Emerje wrote:

sol magnus wrote:That's definitely the Siege mold. May still get it.

What's supposed to be different about the Siege and "Earth" molds? It's just the doors that stand out to me as needing to be changed, but that could easily be passed off as avoiding trademarks.

Emerje

Good question, but if I had to say what would make something on the Lambor mold an "Earth mold" rather than a Siege mold, maybe a more squared off chest?

I do notice the faux Lamborghini logo on Deep Cover's chest, but that's more a cheat than a change. Still, it could very well be what Hasbro is intending to do and that the rumor is false. I don't know man, I just post here.

I thought the biggest change for an earth mode would be the removal of those big vents behind the roof.

Those vents are a feature on a Lamborghini Countach, they're a little bigger on the Siege mold, but they'd have to change things up for license reasonings. Looks like they'd have to redo the roof and add a spoiler, too, but if all they did was change the doors I'd be fine with that for an unlicensed car.



Emerje

i think they should do a two pack of Clampdown and Deepcover like the two pack of Cordon & Spin-Out

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:they went MIA in the End-of-Season 2 2-parter.

So they were still there during the Transmutate episode. I just asked in case Primal could have said that line about them instead of Dinobot. But I guess not.

Could we get a straight redeco of Dinobot into BW Grimlock in Selects?

We already wrote a news story about that and other upcoming redecos, enjoy!

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ore/45553/

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:they went MIA in the End-of-Season 2 2-parter.

So they were still there during the Transmutate episode. I just asked in case Primal could have said that line about them instead of Dinobot.

Tigatron and Airrazor were abducted by the Vok midway through Season 2. (Other Visits part 1) Primal's line about "losing more friends" was a reference to CoH,but, in hindsight, just as easily could have been moved to Agenda part 1 so Transmutate could have taken place before CoH,this making CoH and the Agenda 3part finale a more solid experience, but it's a minor nitpick for a batch of episodes mostly great to watch still 22 years later.

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:they went MIA in the End-of-Season 2 2-parter.

So they were still there during the Transmutate episode. I just asked in case Primal could have said that line about them instead of Dinobot. But I guess not.

Could we get a straight redeco of Dinobot into BW Grimlock in Selects?

We already wrote a news story about that and other upcoming redecos, enjoy!

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ore/45553/

Ha I knew I read that somewhere! I just wasn't sure it was news or rumor.

o.supreme wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:they went MIA in the End-of-Season 2 2-parter.

So they were still there during the Transmutate episode. I just asked in case Primal could have said that line about them instead of Dinobot.

Tigatron and Airrazor were abducted by the Vok midway through Season 2. (Other Visits part 1) Primal's line about "losing more friends" was a reference to CoH,but, in hindsight, just as easily could have been moved to Agenda part 1 so Transmutate could have taken place before CoH,this making CoH and the Agenda 3part finale a more solid experience, but it's a minor nitpick for a batch of episodes mostly great to watch still 22 years later.

He said the line in "Transmutate" because Rattrap, Cheetor, and Silverbolt were in a tectonically dangerous location, and with Megatron was jamming communication from the Maximal base Rhinox has no way to contact them and warn them about how close they were to the epicenter.

So Optimus volunteered to go find them himself, saying "I'm going after them. I'm not in the mood to lose any more friends." in reference to all three of his lost teammates: Tigatron, Airazor, and most recently Dinobot, whose loss affected him the most and influenced his desire to save Cheetor, Rattrap, and Silverbolt.

I'm just saying, theoretically, that same line could have been used in Agenda part 1 , as they were preparing for Megatron's imminent attack on the Maximal base. Would have been just as applicable.

From Twitter, Deep Cover.

I'm a sucker for the Black and blue colour scheme. This is the Siege mold here correct?

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm a sucker for the black and Blue colour scheme. This is the Siege mold here correct?

It is.

I like the color scheme as well, I just wish they made the shoulder joint black as well so in car mode it would all be the same. That Blue sticking out on the sides is kinda distracting.

Really cool looking! I loved the black and red of G2 Sideswipe, and I like this black and dark blue look for Deep Cover.

I have 4, technically 5, of this mold already, but it's good enough and cool enough to have a 6th

When I started collecting in 2018, I said to myself no duplicates of characters and limited repaints to fully fleshed-out characters. I now have two Red Alerts, three Sideswipes, and Tigertrack. Needless to say, I'm all over this Deep Cover and will grab Clampdown if they make him as well.

What can I say, when you like a mold you like a mold...

aronjlove wrote:When I started collecting in 2018, I said to myself no duplicates of characters and limited repaints to fully fleshed-out characters. I now have two Red Alerts, three Sideswipes, and Tigertrack. Needless to say, I'm all over this Deep Cover and will grab Clampdown if they make him as well.

What can I say, when you like a mold you like a mold...

This leads me to a question: with Deep Cover all but confirmed, outside of Clamp Down, is there a Lambo-based repaint that hasn't been done now with the new molds between Sideswipe and Sunstreaker?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

aronjlove wrote:When I started collecting in 2018, I said to myself no duplicates of characters and limited repaints to fully fleshed-out characters. I now have two Red Alerts, three Sideswipes, and Tigertrack. Needless to say, I'm all over this Deep Cover and will grab Clampdown if they make him as well.

What can I say, when you like a mold you like a mold...

This leads me to a question: with Deep Cover all but confirmed, outside of Clamp Down, is there a Lambo-based repaint that hasn't been done now with the new molds between Sideswipe and Sunstreaker?

There's G2 Go-Bots Sideswipe, whose redecos were Firecracker, Optimus Prime, and RiD 2001 R.E.V.

Also a non-combining G1/G2 Breakdown.

And a few more, but which do not share the same robot mode silhouette of either Sideswipe or Sunstreaker.

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

aronjlove wrote:When I started collecting in 2018, I said to myself no duplicates of characters and limited repaints to fully fleshed-out characters. I now have two Red Alerts, three Sideswipes, and Tigertrack. Needless to say, I'm all over this Deep Cover and will grab Clampdown if they make him as well.

What can I say, when you like a mold you like a mold...

This leads me to a question: with Deep Cover all but confirmed, outside of Clamp Down, is there a Lambo-based repaint that hasn't been done now with the new molds between Sideswipe and Sunstreaker?

There's G2 Go-Bots Sideswipe, whose redecos were Firecracker, Optimus Prime, and RiD 2001 R.E.V.

Also a non-combining G1/G2 Breakdown.

And a few more, but which do not share the same robot mode silhouette of either Sideswipe or Sunstreaker.

I was more thinking just straight up G1 sideswipe and G1 Sunstreaker mold reuses instead of alt mode reuses, but that list works.

So Cordon and that Tiger stripe G2 Sideswipe seem to be about it for the molds. That's a pretty good completion rate

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

aronjlove wrote:When I started collecting in 2018, I said to myself no duplicates of characters and limited repaints to fully fleshed-out characters. I now have two Red Alerts, three Sideswipes, and Tigertrack. Needless to say, I'm all over this Deep Cover and will grab Clampdown if they make him as well.

What can I say, when you like a mold you like a mold...

This leads me to a question: with Deep Cover all but confirmed, outside of Clamp Down, is there a Lambo-based repaint that hasn't been done now with the new molds between Sideswipe and Sunstreaker?

There's G2 Go-Bots Sideswipe, whose redecos were Firecracker, Optimus Prime, and RiD 2001 R.E.V.

Also a non-combining G1/G2 Breakdown.

And a few more, but which do not share the same robot mode silhouette of either Sideswipe or Sunstreaker.

I was more thinking just straight up G1 sideswipe and G1 Sunstreaker mold reuses instead of alt mode reuses, but that list works.

So Cordon and that Tiger stripe G2 Sideswipe seem to be about it for the molds. That's a pretty good completion rate

But Cordon is in the Selects 2-pack with Spin-Out.