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Caelus wrote:However, I pretty much minimize my time here, because, guess what? Over the past twelve years or so, opening my leftist/feminist/whatever mouth has generally meant getting treated like **** by other posters, and left hanging by the staff,
Black Hat wrote:I actually want to amend the constitution to severely limit your access to guns.
Good thing you're not in charge then, isn't it?
Seibertron wrote:Ultimate Weapon1 wrote:Well I guess I won't leave the site, but I am no longer fond of the owner, and no it's not because of his political views, it's the way he used a post to attack others that had different views, thats what im not happy with. There is a difference between commenting your veiw, and forcing your views down someones throat. The post itself was fine, it's how it was used that was sly and demeaning. Seibertron can post his veiws and whatnot, but blatantly attacking others with his views is not someone I would trust, the mods however had more respect, so I thank you mods. See you on the next thread were hopefully no one uses it to attack someone else's view.
I appreciate your fair and candid thoughts being shared with us about what I said earlier. I'm sorry you feel that way, but I am so passionate about how bad a person Trump is that I'm not going to sit idly by while people are shockingly talking in a positive manner about the Trump on my website. Trump is one of the scariest people in the world, right up there with Kim Jong-Un himself. He's rude, says nasty things on a daily basis, and isn't too bright (despite his "blowhard" comments about how intelligent he thinks he is). See also: George H.W. Bush: Trump is a 'blowhard' motivated by 'ego' USA TODAY. It is very concerning to me that some of you are following him, though if the U.S. Transformers fandom was more properly representative of our nation's diverse population, I would think we'd be having a very different discussion right now.
Hopefully, it doesn't take our country getting nuked before you guys realize that we have a narcissistic villain leading our country at the moment. He is not good for us, he is not good for our country, and he is not good for our world. Trump is in this for one person and one person (company?) only. All he cares about is himself, and if you believe otherwise, he has truly worked his magic on you.
Remember, per Donald Trump himself, he's the only one that matters (around the 11:30 point). Narcissism at its finest.
Black Hat wrote:Caelus wrote:Okay, with all the talk about 'blatantly attacking others views' and such, it seems like people may have lost some perspective on the matter. To remind y'all, this is what it looks like when someone blatantly attacks your views:
For all the Trump supporters here whinging and quaking because they feel like their safe-space has been violated by some liberal bias, you're looking for oppression in the wrong place. Seibertron.com does not have a leftist/feminist/liberal/democrat/socialist/atheist/whatever agenda, nor do the admins/staff.
And thank God for that. Considering how well communities tend to do under socialist rule (Soviet Russia, Red China, NeoGAF etc) I think we can all be very grateful that the madness hasn't fully infected this serene oasis of robot nerding.If they did, I'd be a hell of a lot more involved here.
I'm not seeing the problem here...See, I actually am the sort of 'rabid' 'intolerant' liberal that wants to destroy 'your' America.
That's fine, but expect criticism for that. Well, I say "That's fine", really I think you'd be better moving to Sweden and get an idea for what happens when things go your way.I actually want to amend the constitution to severely limit your access to guns.
Good thing you're not in charge then, isn't it?I want to tax churches. I want to tax the **** out of corporations and people in the top 1%,
Which wouldn't actually fix the problems the world has, but carry on.and I want healthcare, food, and shelter to be basic rights of people living in our country.
We have free healthcare over here in the UK. It isn't very good.I don't want creationism taught in schools as a 'science'.
OK in fairness, this one I can relate to.I believe sex education should be mandatory in public schools.
Not quite as cut-and-dried as it might seem- in theory it's a great idea, but in practice it gets taught much too early.I don't believe that church marriages should be legally binding institutions of the state, and I don't believe that you have any right to tell two (or more!) consenting adults that they can't live together, raise kids together, or file taxes together.
Maybe because marriage, pretty much by definition, is a union between a man and a woman. Like, that's not me bashing gay or bi people, that's the actual, original definition.I could go on, but I think I've made my point.
Well you've certainly made the point that you don't know as much as you think you do.Oh, well, a couple of other things I tend to take for granted but seem to be lost on some people - sexual assault is bad,
Not disagreeing with you there. Sexual assault is bad. However, the way that it's dealt with by courts (especially in colleges) is a royal mess, as too much stock is placed in "Listen and believe". As someone who's been falsely accused of sexual harassment I'm all too familiar with how sexual assault claims can be used as weapons.women should receive equal pay for equal work,
Yeah, about that...and cops should be held to a much higher standard than the rest of the population.
I see exactly what you're doing, pal. Don't even go there.I'm not the most liberal person I know, but I'm so liberal, that - hypocrisy be ****ed - if I could deport all of the Trump supporters in exchange for Muslim Mexicans who want to be U.S. citizens, I'd take at most a week to deliberate on the offer.
Again, good thing you're not in that position isn't it?However, I pretty much minimize my time here, because, guess what? Over the past twelve years or so, opening my leftist/feminist/whatever mouth has generally meant getting treated like **** by other posters, and left hanging by the staff, because - you know - condemning jokes about sexual exploitation of women is too 'political' for such a forum.
I'm gonna need a source on that, because last time I checked that sh!t didn't fly. I mean, I got in minor trouble for casually describing an up-their-own-arse film critic as a "Pretentious f@ggot".Among the more (relatively) erudite labels I've been given, I've been dissed as a bleeding-heart, a snowflake, a SJW (because somehow 'social justice' is a bad thing), a 'liberal academic', an 'elitist intellectual', and - my favorite - a "godless atheist" - That was when I lost my staff position, by the way.
What, a bit like anyone even remotely conservative gets branded a racist, sexist, transphobic, bigoted MRA bible-thumping klansman?So yeah, you really think the staff on this site has some oppressive, liberal agenda?
No, but I disagree with the political opinions of certain members of staff.That's been the best laugh I've had this week.
Well, I'm glad you can extract some joy out of something.That 'liberal bias' you think is lurking around every corner? That's moderate Americans exercising their constitutional right to criticize a man so far down the rabbit hole that the left-right spectrum doesn't even make sense in the context of the argument anymore.
So pretty much "I'm on the right side of history, anyone who disagrees with me is a far-right lunatic".
Lemme put it this way. I generally speaking have no issue with the moderation on this forum, I think it's pretty fair and even-handed. But if I were to say, for example, that I think life is sacred, abortion is murder and that it should only EVER be considered in cases where otherwise the mother would die as well, I'd probably get in MAJOR trouble. Lots of people hold that viewpoint. Not because they "hate women" or whatever, but because to them, the idea of killing an innocent unborn foetus is morally abhorrent. Now I don't 100% agree with those people (though I don't 100% agree with the other side either) but I fully respect their right to hold that opinion and that they aren't some kind of evil sh!tlords for holding that belief. The problem is, we live in a society that's shifted so far to the left, away from the values that held society together in the first place, that simply disagreeing with a pretty damn radical liberal idea is considered "far right". I'm not talking about idiots that bomb abortion clinics BTW, just regular people who find abortion distasteful.
TLDR: The problem isn't with Seibertron, it's with society as a whole.
Ultimate Weapon1 wrote:It seems you whatch a ton of mainstream news and only look at one side of the story instead of both, and no Trump hasn't worked his magic on me.
Ultimate Weapon1 wrote:I at first was skeptical of him, but however he seems to be for the American people and our troops, if he ever goes against either then yeah I would no longer support him (duh),
Ultimate Weapon1 wrote:and remember who leaked how long it took for a nuke to be launched, which btw was classified info,I ll give you a hint, it wasn't Trump. However to me it seems you dont actually research outside of bias news or any other website that is either pro Trump or anti Trump.
Ultimate Weapon1 wrote:I know where you got all this information, it was from the left, they brainwashed you, doesn't feel good to be called brainwashed does it? I now see you for the person you are,1:You believe anything that is said, rather than make your own assessment of the info you have been given,2: You at first say I respect you, and thank you, but actually say and mean, I really don't respect anything you said and think your an idiot, who doesn't look at things through unbaised eyes. 3: You are a sly hypocrite, by that I mean, if anyone posts a different view, and you dont like it then it should be removed for being political, but if you post anything that is of your own views its ok and everyone should agree with you, sound like tyranny to me. 4: You try and act nice but at the same time attack the person. 5: you get triggerd and upset about nasty words that are said, even if they are apologized for, or you follow what someone else said, istead of actually going to the source, to see what was actually said. You my "freind" are a liberal snowflake, there are snowflakes in other parties too, but you ate a liberal snowflake, all you do is complian and worry, instead of see if this will turn out great or not. I had to do that when Obama became President for the second time, I had hoped he would do better the second time but sadly he didn't. Trump will hopefully be a good president, if not, he will have to answer to us the American people! Is Trump perfect? Heck no! am I perfect? Heck no! Are you perfect? Heck no! Is anyone perfect? Heck to the no! No Trump will not flipping start a nuclear war, if anything it would be Kim Jong un, just because he hates us. Anyways thats my thoughts, and stuff I know about you, so have a good day
Ultimate Weapon1 wrote:I HAVE ONLY ONE MORE THING TO SAY SEIBERTRON! I'm sorry, I should have not said anything, I should have just rolled my eyes and moved on, I just don't like seeing people attacked that's all. I'm sorry for everything I said, being right isn't always right, the best way for society to move forward is for people to realise, we aren't perfect, and should all be in this together, not divided. Well that's it I hope you have a good day
Ultimate Weapon1 wrote:Thank you I'm happy you understand, people will be people.
Ultimate Weapon1 wrote:While I myself will have no part of that, I am glad we could settle this like adults. Btw what do you mean by fry? You mean kick out of office right?
Seibertron wrote:Ultimate Weapon1 wrote:Well I guess I won't leave the site, but I am no longer fond of the owner, and no it's not because of his political views, it's the way he used a post to attack others that had different views, thats what im not happy with. There is a difference between commenting your veiw, and forcing your views down someones throat. The post itself was fine, it's how it was used that was sly and demeaning. Seibertron can post his veiws and whatnot, but blatantly attacking others with his views is not someone I would trust, the mods however had more respect, so I thank you mods. See you on the next thread were hopefully no one uses it to attack someone else's view.
I appreciate your fair and candid thoughts being shared with us about what I said earlier. I'm sorry you feel that way, but I am so passionate about how bad a person Trump is that I'm not going to sit idly by while people are shockingly talking in a positive manner about the Trump on my website. Trump is one of the scariest people in the world, right up there with Kim Jong-Un himself. He's rude, says nasty things on a daily basis, and isn't too bright (despite his "blowhard" comments about how intelligent he thinks he is). See also: George H.W. Bush: Trump is a 'blowhard' motivated by 'ego' USA TODAY. It is very concerning to me that some of you are following him, though if the U.S. Transformers fandom was more properly representative of our nation's diverse population, I would think we'd be having a very different discussion right now.
Hopefully, it doesn't take our country getting nuked before you guys realize that we have a narcissistic villain leading our country at the moment. He is not good for us, he is not good for our country, and he is not good for our world. Trump is in this for one person and one person (company?) only. All he cares about is himself, and if you believe otherwise, he has truly worked his magic on you.
Remember, per Donald Trump himself, he's the only one that matters (around the 11:30 point). Narcissism at its finest.
Ultra Markus wrote:I understand your feelings about our president but this is a site for those who e love transformers when I come on this site I enjoy seeing all there is to know about transformers such as toys movies comics what's new to the toy line and so on not your political views, stop cramming that **** down our throats we don't need it here on the front page
Do everyone a favor start a separate forum for political debate and invite anybody that wants to
Its not appreciated to open your site and see stupid political bull on the home page
Burn wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:I understand your feelings about our president but this is a site for those who e love transformers when I come on this site I enjoy seeing all there is to know about transformers such as toys movies comics what's new to the toy line and so on not your political views, stop cramming that **** down our throats we don't need it here on the front page
Do everyone a favor start a separate forum for political debate and invite anybody that wants to
Its not appreciated to open your site and see stupid political bull on the home page
Mate, you are so far out of line. Who are YOU to dictate how this site should and shouldn't be run?
Who are YOU to dictate what should and shouldn't be posted?
No one has forced you to read this. You could have scrolled on.
If people want to discuss politics, they're free to do so, we have a forum for that, it's called General Discussion.
Ultra Markus wrote:Who do you think you are forcing your opinions on me?
oh I do join in other discussions and generally ignore post I don't like, I'm not afraid of others opinions but my opinions tends to start fights or savage debates which I don't needBurn wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:Who do you think you are forcing your opinions on me?
Well for starters, I'm not. I'm explaining in simple terms, that if you don't like it, don't read it. Scroll on, move on. This is ONE TOPIC amongst thousands on this site. There's plenty of other discussion topics you can join in on that are politics free.
Secondly, you're on the internet, if you're afraid of people forcing their opinions on you, you should probably just log off.
Because the internet is full of opinions that you're likely not to agree with.
Ultra Markus wrote:Yes I have opinions too and some may not like them, but do I need to be bullied because of it?
I certainly hope not
Ultimate Weapon1 wrote:Seibertron wrote:Ultimate Weapon1 wrote:Well I guess I won't leave the site, but I am no longer fond of the owner, and no it's not because of his political views, it's the way he used a post to attack others that had different views, thats what im not happy with. There is a difference between commenting your veiw, and forcing your views down someones throat. The post itself was fine, it's how it was used that was sly and demeaning. Seibertron can post his veiws and whatnot, but blatantly attacking others with his views is not someone I would trust, the mods however had more respect, so I thank you mods. See you on the next thread were hopefully no one uses it to attack someone else's view.
I appreciate your fair and candid thoughts being shared with us about what I said earlier. I'm sorry you feel that way, but I am so passionate about how bad a person Trump is that I'm not going to sit idly by while people are shockingly talking in a positive manner about the Trump on my website. Trump is one of the scariest people in the world, right up there with Kim Jong-Un himself. He's rude, says nasty things on a daily basis, and isn't too bright (despite his "blowhard" comments about how intelligent he thinks he is). See also: George H.W. Bush: Trump is a 'blowhard' motivated by 'ego' USA TODAY. It is very concerning to me that some of you are following him, though if the U.S. Transformers fandom was more properly representative of our nation's diverse population, I would think we'd be having a very different discussion right now.
Hopefully, it doesn't take our country getting nuked before you guys realize that we have a narcissistic villain leading our country at the moment. He is not good for us, he is not good for our country, and he is not good for our world. Trump is in this for one person and one person (company?) only. All he cares about is himself, and if you believe otherwise, he has truly worked his magic on you.
Remember, per Donald Trump himself, he's the only one that matters (around the 11:30 point). Narcissism at its finest.
It seems you whatch a ton of mainstream news and only look at one side of the story instead of both, and no Trump hasn't worked his magic on me. I at first was skeptical of him, but however he seems to be for the American people and our troops, if he ever goes against either then yeah I would no longer support him (duh), and remember who leaked how long it took for a nuke to be launched, which btw was classified info,I ll give you a hint, it wasn't Trump. However to me it seems you dont actually research outside of bias news or any other website that is either pro Trump or anti Trump. I know where you got all this information, it was from the left, they brainwashed you, doesn't feel good to be called brainwashed does it? I now see you for the person you are,1:You believe anything that is said, rather than make your own assessment of the info you have been given,2: You at first say I respect you, and thank you, but actually say and mean, I really don't respect anything you said and think your an idiot, who doesn't look at things through unbaised eyes. 3: You are a sly hypocrite, by that I mean, if anyone posts a different view, and you dont like it then it should be removed for being political, but if you post anything that is of your own views its ok and everyone should agree with you, sound like tyranny to me. 4: You try and act nice but at the same time attack the person. 5: you get triggerd and upset about nasty words that are said, even if they are apologized for, or you follow what someone else said, istead of actually going to the source, to see what was actually said. You my "freind" are a liberal snowflake, there are snowflakes in other parties too, but you ate a liberal snowflake, all you do is complian and worry, instead of see if this will turn out great or not. I had to do that when Obama became President for the second time, I had hoped he would do better the second time but sadly he didn't. Trump will hopefully be a good president, if not, he will have to answer to us the American people! Is Trump perfect? Heck no! am I perfect? Heck no! Are you perfect? Heck no! Is anyone perfect? Heck to the no! No Trump will not flipping start a nuclear war, if anything it would be Kim Jong un, just because he hates us. Anyways thats my thoughts, and stuff I know about you, so have a good day
Awesomepow wrote:Ultimate Weapon1 wrote:Seibertron wrote:Ultimate Weapon1 wrote:Well I guess I won't leave the site, but I am no longer fond of the owner, and no it's not because of his political views, it's the way he used a post to attack others that had different views, thats what im not happy with. There is a difference between commenting your veiw, and forcing your views down someones throat. The post itself was fine, it's how it was used that was sly and demeaning. Seibertron can post his veiws and whatnot, but blatantly attacking others with his views is not someone I would trust, the mods however had more respect, so I thank you mods. See you on the next thread were hopefully no one uses it to attack someone else's view.
I appreciate your fair and candid thoughts being shared with us about what I said earlier. I'm sorry you feel that way, but I am so passionate about how bad a person Trump is that I'm not going to sit idly by while people are shockingly talking in a positive manner about the Trump on my website. Trump is one of the scariest people in the world, right up there with Kim Jong-Un himself. He's rude, says nasty things on a daily basis, and isn't too bright (despite his "blowhard" comments about how intelligent he thinks he is). See also: George H.W. Bush: Trump is a 'blowhard' motivated by 'ego' USA TODAY. It is very concerning to me that some of you are following him, though if the U.S. Transformers fandom was more properly representative of our nation's diverse population, I would think we'd be having a very different discussion right now.
Hopefully, it doesn't take our country getting nuked before you guys realize that we have a narcissistic villain leading our country at the moment. He is not good for us, he is not good for our country, and he is not good for our world. Trump is in this for one person and one person (company?) only. All he cares about is himself, and if you believe otherwise, he has truly worked his magic on you.
Remember, per Donald Trump himself, he's the only one that matters (around the 11:30 point). Narcissism at its finest.
It seems you whatch a ton of mainstream news and only look at one side of the story instead of both, and no Trump hasn't worked his magic on me. I at first was skeptical of him, but however he seems to be for the American people and our troops, if he ever goes against either then yeah I would no longer support him (duh), and remember who leaked how long it took for a nuke to be launched, which btw was classified info,I ll give you a hint, it wasn't Trump. However to me it seems you dont actually research outside of bias news or any other website that is either pro Trump or anti Trump. I know where you got all this information, it was from the left, they brainwashed you, doesn't feel good to be called brainwashed does it? I now see you for the person you are,1:You believe anything that is said, rather than make your own assessment of the info you have been given,2: You at first say I respect you, and thank you, but actually say and mean, I really don't respect anything you said and think your an idiot, who doesn't look at things through unbaised eyes. 3: You are a sly hypocrite, by that I mean, if anyone posts a different view, and you dont like it then it should be removed for being political, but if you post anything that is of your own views its ok and everyone should agree with you, sound like tyranny to me. 4: You try and act nice but at the same time attack the person. 5: you get triggerd and upset about nasty words that are said, even if they are apologized for, or you follow what someone else said, istead of actually going to the source, to see what was actually said. You my "freind" are a liberal snowflake, there are snowflakes in other parties too, but you ate a liberal snowflake, all you do is complian and worry, instead of see if this will turn out great or not. I had to do that when Obama became President for the second time, I had hoped he would do better the second time but sadly he didn't. Trump will hopefully be a good president, if not, he will have to answer to us the American people! Is Trump perfect? Heck no! am I perfect? Heck no! Are you perfect? Heck no! Is anyone perfect? Heck to the no! No Trump will not flipping start a nuclear war, if anything it would be Kim Jong un, just because he hates us. Anyways thats my thoughts, and stuff I know about you, so have a good day
Thank you,someone who actually knows the truth.The left have gone so far that they're making our President Jhiaxus.Everyone should be thankful for a President that is trying to save America.Left,just go home.Liberals are so concerned that if someone has a different opinion their idol will nuke the world.
POTUS:
TPP is done
Illegal immigration down 70%
Wall model being constructed
Criminals going in jail
Jobs returning
Entepreneurs starting companies in America again
I respect your views,but you don't respect ours liberals.
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Jhiaxus is a cool character.
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