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If all of this is correct, I currently plan to get:
Dragon Megatron
Laser Prime
Jhiaxus
Probably the Energon Monsters, but I'll need to see them first
Maybe Drag Strip
Tarantulus
Crankcase
Maybe Core Shockwave and Skywarp
Core Rumble if he's blue

And if rumors without listings count, Nightbeat and Minerva

For those who are interested in the G1 figures on that list that will have new molds,
does anyone think we’ll see little to no Siege greebling?
I’m hoping this is the case, & that we start seeing more figures with a cleaner look as with Cyclones, Scourge, Hot Rod, Wreck-gar, etc.
To be consistent it seems like the other 3 Dinobots will have greebling…
I’m just hoping that lessens (or completely goes away) with the other G1 characters
Imo it doesn’t add anything… It looks overly busy and unnecessary.

Pointblank.

YESSS!!! Finally! Now I need Slapdash, Getaway & Joyride.

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:Pointblank.

YESSS!!! Finally! Now I need Slapdash, Getaway & Joyride.

You forgot Sureshot.

AcademyofDrX wrote:Is Elita-1 the new Windblade? I miss when Windblade was Windblade. I have and appreciate the TR version, but I was really expecting one in WfC.

How can a legacy character ( as in the term and not the new toyline) be the "new" version of a fan made character from a few years ago?

That's like asking if Uhura is the new 7 of 9....it just makes no sense. Windblade got all kinds of exposure in Cyberverse. I'm actually glad newer characters like Drift and Windblade are getting a break. I personally never cared for them. I'm sure there will be new toys in some future line.

All these rumors have me very excited.

o.supreme wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:Is Elita-1 the new Windblade? I miss when Windblade was Windblade. I have and appreciate the TR version, but I was really expecting one in WfC.

How can a legacy character ( as in the term and not the new toyline) be the "new" version of a fan made character from a few years ago?

Metaphors, man. He means "Is Elita the new go-to main female Autobot?" Before Windblade it was Arcee, but Elita has been the new main since POTP.

Sabrblade wrote:

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:Pointblank.

YESSS!!! Finally! Now I need Slapdash, Getaway & Joyride.

You forgot Sureshot.

I always forget about him. Not sure why. A new more G1 accurate Crosshairs would be good too.

Sowndwave76 wrote:For those who are interested in the G1 figures on that list that will have new molds,
does anyone think we’ll see little to no Siege greebling?
I’m hoping this is the case, & that we start seeing more figures with a cleaner look as with Cyclones, Scourge, Hot Rod, Wreck-gar, etc.
To be consistent it seems like the other 3 Dinobots will have greebling…
I’m just hoping that lessens (or completely goes away) with the other G1 characters
Imo it doesn’t add anything… It looks overly busy and unnecessary.

I transformed both Grimlock and Slag today and didn't notice any greebling on them. We are far from the Siege Chromia levels of that.

Can anyone please double check to see if I am right in what I wrote. Are these all the ones we have actual proof is coming to the Legacy line?


Legacy

Core
Skywarp
Shockwave
Iguanus
Optimus Prime (Reissue)
Soundwave (Reissue)
Energon Monster

Deluxe
Elita-1
Crankcase
Pointblank
Wild Rider
Dragstrip
Energon Monster
Arcee
Tarantulas
Skids
Kickback

Voyager
Jhiaxus
Soundwave
Armada Starscream
Bulkhead
Blaster Inferno

Leader
Galvatron (Reissue)
Optimus Prime (G2)
TM2 Megatron


Studio Series

Core
Shockwave
Ratchet
Rumble
Laserbeak
Wheelie
Ravage

Deluxe
Perceptor


Voyager
Soundwave

william-james88 wrote:Crankcase

So now everybody is saying the next titan is Cybertron Metroplex. But the clues were SINK & SHIP. What the hell does SINK & SHIP have to do with Cybertron Metroplex? Am I missing something?

I was thinking SHIP because the Nemesis is a space SHIP. And SINK because it sank in the ocean in G1. But he said it's not the Nemesis.

william-james88 wrote:Can anyone please double check to see if I am right in what I wrote. Are these all the ones we have actual proof is coming to the Legacy line?


Legacy

Core
Skywarp
Shockwave
Iguanus
Optimus Prime (Reissue)
Soundwave (Reissue)
Energon Monster

Deluxe
Elita-1
Crankcase
Pointblank
Wild Rider
Dragstrip
Energon Monster
Arcee
Tarantulas
Skids
Kickback

Voyager
Jhiaxus
Soundwave
Armada Starscream
Bulkhead
Blaster Inferno

Leader
Galvatron (Reissue)
Optimus Prime (G2)
TM2 Megatron


Studio Series

Core
Shockwave
Ratchet
Rumble
Laserbeak
Wheelie
Ravage

Deluxe
Perceptor


Voyager
Soundwave

You missed the listing for Legacy Deluxe Silverstreak as an exclusive that kicked this whole thing off (and you have Blaster and Inferno in a way that makes them look like one listing), but otherwise that's everything official so far, yeah.

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:So now everybody is saying the next titan is Cybertron Metroplex. But the clues were SINK & SHIP. What the hell does SINK & SHIP have to do with Cybertron Metroplex? Am I missing something?

...I don't know what clues you were looking at, but the clues I saw initially given when the individual talking about the Titan's identity began were "BUILD" and "GIANT", and that the Titan was 100% a Unicron Trilogy character.

Also everyone is saying that's what the Titan'll be not only because of those clues, but because the guy who gave the clues made a post recapping all the listings on one of the 4 or so leaked listing threads over there, accidentally said on that list that the Titan 100% is Cybertron Metroplex, and then edited that part out after the fact, which is pretty damning.

william-james88 wrote:Can anyone please double check to see if I am right in what I wrote. Are these all the ones we have actual proof is coming to the Legacy line?


Legacy

Core
Skywarp
Shockwave
Iguanus
Optimus Prime (Reissue)
Soundwave (Reissue)
Energon Monster

Deluxe
Elita-1
Crankcase
Pointblank
Wild Rider
Dragstrip
Energon Monster
Arcee
Tarantulas
Skids
Kickback

Voyager
Jhiaxus
Soundwave
Armada Starscream
Bulkhead
Blaster Inferno

Leader
Galvatron (Reissue)
Optimus Prime (G2)
TM2 Megatron


Studio Series

Core
Shockwave
Ratchet
Rumble
Laserbeak
Wheelie
Ravage

Deluxe
Perceptor


Voyager
Soundwave

With it all laid out like that, it seems like Legacy won't have that many non-G1 characters after all. It's just Prime Arcee and Tarantulus in Deluxe, Bulkhead, Predacon Inferno, Armada Starscream and Jhiaxus in Voyager, and Transmetal 2 Megatron in Leader. I do hope Legacy continues beyond a year and we eventually get things like Knock Out or Fuzor Silverbolt.

Munkky wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Can anyone please double check to see if I am right in what I wrote. Are these all the ones we have actual proof is coming to the Legacy line?


Legacy

Core
Skywarp
Shockwave
Iguanus
Optimus Prime (Reissue)
Soundwave (Reissue)
Energon Monster

Deluxe
Elita-1
Crankcase
Pointblank
Wild Rider
Dragstrip
Energon Monster
Arcee
Tarantulas
Skids
Kickback

Voyager
Jhiaxus
Soundwave
Armada Starscream
Bulkhead
Blaster Inferno

Leader
Galvatron (Reissue)
Optimus Prime (G2)
TM2 Megatron


Studio Series

Core
Shockwave
Ratchet
Rumble
Laserbeak
Wheelie
Ravage

Deluxe
Perceptor


Voyager
Soundwave

With it all laid out like that, it seems like Legacy won't have that many non-G1 characters after all. It's just Prime Arcee and Tarantulus in Deluxe, Bulkhead, Predacon Inferno, Armada Starscream and Jhiaxus in Voyager, and Transmetal 2 Megatron in Leader. I do hope Legacy continues beyond a year and we eventually get things like Knock Out or Fuzor Silverbolt.

Looks like the Titan will be non-G1 then, where sales that good then that they nixed the plans to drop Titan for 2 Commander classes?

Nemesis Primal wrote:You missed the listing for Legacy Deluxe Silverstreak as an exclusive that kicked this whole thing off (and you have Blaster and Inferno in a way that makes them look like one listing), but otherwise that's everything official so far, yeah.

I'm trying to figure out how many slots are now filled for the mainline so Silverstreak was excluded.

People said that Prime and Bulkhead share a mold but are we talking about Prime from the Prime series or are we talking about the Leader Prime mold we are getting in Legacy?

The core class looks like that's what we are getting for the whole year. Are we 100% certain we are getting all the stunticons in 2022 or would the final two be in the next line? Because if we add them and the rumoured Nightbeat and Minerva, then I think we have too many deluxes. Unless Nightbeat or Minerva are exclusives.

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

TulioDude wrote:I hope one of them is Bumblebee Soundwave.

I believe the $26 one will be because that's what Target in the US charges for SS figures

For what class?

Voyager class. Sorry, thought I included that, but I was also just waking up so I guess I forgot that important part

We'll see if that lasts. With the voyager class getting a price bump in 2022 (we already see it for SS86 Sweep), that $26 for a voyager at Target is nearing their wholesale purchase price.

It'll last as long as Walmart keeps selling them at the same price.

Since the lower prices are only for Studio series, does that mean that Walmart sells the Kingdom deluxes and voyagers at the new higher price points?

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:So now everybody is saying the next titan is Cybertron Metroplex. But the clues were SINK & SHIP. What the hell does SINK & SHIP have to do with Cybertron Metroplex? Am I missing something?

I was thinking SHIP because the Nemesis is a space SHIP. And SINK because it sank in the ocean in G1. But he said it's not the Nemesis.

Other than the leaker accidentally outright admitting it was Cybertron Metroplex, the SINK and SHIP hints were for something else

Why a new Metroplex though? 2013 isn't that long ago...

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Why a new Metroplex though? 2013 isn't that long ago...

Not the same Metroplex

Cybertron Metroplex

Also eight years is plenty of time for an update, but it's not getting one this year, apparently.

Autobot N wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Why a new Metroplex though? 2013 isn't that long ago...

Cybertron Metroplex.jpg

Not the same Metroplex

Oh, ok. Doing something new with the name. That looks pretty good actually.

AcademyofDrX wrote:Also eight years is plenty of time for an update, but it's not getting one this year, apparently.

I dunno. Until the other neglected characters in the line have been updated IE the last combiners, Blue Bacchus etc Updating updates seems a bit wasteful.

Hope they do all the Soundwave cassettes in studio series and hope they're all new molds with animation decos

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:Also eight years is plenty of time for an update, but it's not getting one this year, apparently.

I dunno. Until the other neglected characters in the line have been updated IE the last combiners, Blue Bacchus etc Updating updates seems a bit wasteful.

I think we've had this disagreement before. We have different priorities and opinions, which is fine. Hasbro has to strike a balance between servicing long-term collectors and people new to the hobby. Getting into 30 year old Japanese exclusive characters is a pretty deep cut. Personally, I take a "why not both?" vote view, though of course they can only make so many toys at once.