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News Credits: 96 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:20 am

william-james88 wrote:We had Thunderwing's OG mold mate in leader class previously and there was no extra core class bot. I don't see the combo you propose being anything less than a commander class toy.

You mean Titan Return's Black Shadow?
Hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................
TW as a commander would be a freaking giant so nope.

The simple solution is for 2 separate releases. Make TW a mainline leader, faithful to the shell. Then do TW "again" as a core class bot, faithful to the original inner bot with full compatibility with the leader. Release them both at the same time.

And voila!

News Credits: 4529 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:06 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:
william-james88 wrote:We had Thunderwing's OG mold mate in leader class previously and there was no extra core class bot. I don't see the combo you propose being anything less than a commander class toy.

You mean Titan Return's Black Shadow?
Hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................
TW as a commander would be a freaking giant so nope.

The simple solution is for 2 separate releases. Make TW a mainline leader, faithful to the shell. Then do TW "again" as a core class bot, faithful to the original inner bot with full compatibility with the leader. Release them both at the same time.

And voila!

Yeah, like they will do with G1 Skyquake and the pretender jets, I think that would work best.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:12 am

william-james88 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
william-james88 wrote:We had Thunderwing's OG mold mate in leader class previously and there was no extra core class bot. I don't see the combo you propose being anything less than a commander class toy.

You mean Titan Return's Black Shadow?
Hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................
TW as a commander would be a freaking giant so nope.

The simple solution is for 2 separate releases. Make TW a mainline leader, faithful to the shell. Then do TW "again" as a core class bot, faithful to the original inner bot with full compatibility with the leader. Release them both at the same time.

And voila!

Yeah, like they will do with G1 Skyquake and the pretender jets, I think that would work best.

Can't tell if this is a sarcastic joke, or if you mixed up "Predator" with "Pretender". :-?

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:22 am

An interesting bit of information was shared with me. We know that despite coming out in the first wave of 2023, Hasbro, decided to keep Evolution Breakdown in the previous years packaging so that MIP fans could have some consistency for their Stunticons.

However...two different versions of the instructions have been identified. I personally received "Evolution" Instructions. I live in the United States and Pre-ordered from Amazon. Another fan, who lives in Germany shared with me his instructions that are the previous years Legacy. Unfortunately I didn't have my packaging to confirm a number/date, but this seems to indicate there was a change over at some point (similar to other PR items), except the packaging itself was just never changed.

For those that have Legacy Breakdown, would you like to share where you are located, and which instructions were in the package?

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:30 am

Yeah, Nevermore documents this kind of find pretty thoroughly.

News Credits: 4529 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:30 pm

Thanks to Chuckdawg1999 we have a review for the new Legacy Twincast to share with you. As we now know, the cassettes are made of clear plastic because they are on the same plastic tree as the clear chest piece but Hasbro is able to colour that clear plastic differently. This toy also comes with a "new" smirking headsculpt. Enjoy!

chuckdawg1999 wrote:We all knew Twincast was coming some way when Blaster was released and was a new mold. There's not much here except a new face and deco, all accurate to the character's history. I'm not sure I can recommend Twincast to anyone unfamiliar with the Japanese Headmasters cartoon, but if there's a sale it's worth the purchase.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:31 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, Nevermore documents this kind of find pretty thoroughly.

That may have been the person who contacted me :lol:

since its my instructions he copied. I've never checked out that site...

News Credits: 4529 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:20 pm

The pat few years changed pretty much everything distribution wise. We've gotten to a point where local distribution is just one of the many issues between a toy and you and there are bigger global distribution issues at play and issues with unloading at ports. BUT at least for the leader class wave that includes Legacy Skyquake and the repack of Dragon Megatron, we know these have at least jumped those bigger hurdles. This wave is currently being distributed to retailers. Of course, the more agile retailers like online specialty shops will have these available to the public first while it may take months for Walmart or Target. Then again, fans have found the second wave of Legacy core class figures at Targets in the US, so there is no rhyme or reason to any of it.
Below you will see images of the case bought from a collector shop called CMD store in Quebec. Here is the original (now sold out) listing for those curious: https://cmdstore.com/products/transform ... 2ebc&_ss=r

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:20 pm

While I don't place any premium on which instruction booklet I got, it was the Evolution version. I picked up Breakdown on Pulse pre-order.

by **Till-all-R1** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:11 pm

william-james88 wrote:The pat few years changed pretty much everything distribution wise. We've gotten to a point where local distribution is just one of the many issues between a toy and you and there are bigger global distribution issues at play and issues with unloading at ports.

There's also the trucker shortage which cause issues with getting items from the ports to the actual warehouses for shipments to each store. It's definitely a weird and tough time for retail in terms of regular shipments and I'm actually surprised that they can keep shelves as full as they do.

by **M. Spector** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:42 pm

Boy I'm tellin ya what, if I got to targèt this weekend and see both those Leader's sitting on shelf .. :lol:

News Credits: 4529 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:03 pm

M. Spector wrote:Boy I'm tellin ya what, if I got to targèt this weekend and see both those Leader's sitting on shelf ..

That would be the first sighting of that Megatron at us retail store

News Credits: 4529 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:31 pm

Transformers Legacy Evolution Prime Universe Skyquake is being found at collectible retailers and if you want a good look at what this leader class figure has to offer, we have a video review for you below. We also have images of Skyquake compared to his original mold from the Prime line, in the form of Dreadwing, and many other Prime figures. You'll let us know if he looks too big or not.

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:58 pm

Hol-!

Big dude is big. A modern release of a figure that is actually larger than the original. I realize they are different size classes but even then OG Skyquake was chunky boo

I am excited for this

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:25 am

Not bad. I don't like the deco so I'll wait for the Dreadwing repaint.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:26 am

At first I didn't understand why they made Skyquake so big when he and his twin brother Dreadwing weren't nearly so big in Prime.

And then I remembered how tall G1 Skyquake was.

News Credits: 4529 · by **william-james88** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:38 am

Sabrblade wrote:At first I didn't understand why they made Skyquake so big when he and his twin brother Dreadwing weren't nearly so big in Prime.

And then I remembered how tall G1 Skyquake was.

Yes, due to the size, this Prime Skyquake release feels like one of those "pre-decos", like Titans Return Sentinel Prime.

News Credits: 4529 · by **william-james88** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:47 am

The Legacy line is going to be WILD next year. Hasbro is going all out with this line's mission to pull from a bunch of lines like Animated, Rescue Bots, Cyberverse, Japan's Beast Wars II and good ol' G1. Many fans were asking when Gears would show up and here he is, as a deluxe class. These listings for the 2024 line are all we have to go on at the moment, and we thank JTPrime17 for finding them.

The "Rock" listings seem to be that line's gimmick, like the Junkions in Legacy Evolution.

Tra Gen Legacy UNI Core Rock 1
Product Number: F8516
EAN: 5010996194992

Tra Gen Legacy UNI Core Energon Megatron
Product Number: F8517
EAN: 5010996195098

Tra Gen Legacy UNI Core BW Tazmanian Kid
Product Number: F8518
EAN: 5010996195104

Tra Gen Legacy UNI DLX Animated Bumblebee
Product Number: F8524
EAN: 5010996195951

Tra Gen Legacy UNI DLX Rescue Bot Chase
Product Number: F8525
EAN: 5010996195845

Tra Gen Legacy UNI DLX Rock 1
Product Number: F8526
EAN: 5010996195968

Tra Gen Legacy UNI DLX CYB Windblade
Product Number: F8528
EAN: 5010996195944

Tra Gen Legacy UNI DLX G1 Gears
Product Number: F8530
EAN: 5010996195999

Tra Gen Legacy UNI DLX G1 Sureshot
Product Number: F8531
EAN: 5010996195975

Tra Gen Legacy UNI DLX Rock 2
Product Number: F8529
EAN: 5010996196002

Tra Gen Legacy UNI DLX CYB Chromia
Product Number: F8532
EAN: 5010996195982

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:55 am

I'd laugh if those two unknown "Rock" ones turned out to be Rock Lords.

News Credits: 1 · by **Bumblevivisector** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:59 am

william-james88 wrote:The "Rock" listings seem to be that line's gimmick, like the Junkions in Legacy Evolution.

Meaning the gimmick is that Hasbro's finally going to somehow make use of the Rock Lords I.P. they got when they bought out Tonka, miniscule though it surely is?

They already put the name Boulder to good use over the past decade, even bought a media company of the same name. Will Aligned Continuity just barely live on through Rescue Bots: Geo-Geneology-Quest?

Or maybe next year's Core class will turn into musical instruments for a Knights of Unicron revival?

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:15 am

I think we're all missing what the gimmick will be

News Credits: 381 · by **Bounti76** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:16 am

Finally, Gears gets some love. He barely saw a new figure at retail in 2014, and before then, it was 1984.

And I'm glad we're finally completing the Autobot Targetmaster team. Why we got all the Decepticon Targetmasters in ONE line sold in the same calendar year, and the Autobot crew is spread out over 6 years and (basically) three lines (Siege, Legacy, Legacy Part III).

This will be Sureshot's first figure in thirty-seven years, and second over all..... don't even get me started on Pointblank's Targetmaster partner having twice as many toys as Pointblank.

News Credits: 12 · by **Sentinel_Primal** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:00 am

If Gears can live, so can Polarclaw :-D

News Credits: 12 · by **Razorbeast88** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:46 am

Sentinel_Primal wrote:If Gears can live, so can Polarclaw

God I hope so. He's such a badass character and I'd love to get him along with other characters that came out in The Gathering comic. Especially if they make him beefy looking similar to how they got skyquake to look, albeit limited because he'd likely be voyager class. But a chonky polar claw would be great

News Credits: 12 · by **Razorbeast88** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 2:57 am

I hope the rock gimmicks turn out cool lol

I'm most excited for Tazmanian Kid. I don't know enough about how he was in the cartoon, I just had the comic he came out in as Snarl- but there's like 75 bots named snarl so TK will do nicely. Very cool invisibility power, awesome alt mode, and cool design overall. Can't wait to have him with Leo Prime and Maximal Grimlock

I'm curious to see how the animated Bumblebee design will look with the generatiocation. I might pick him up or wait and hope they do a generations styled Prime universe Bee or even live action Bee. Headsculpt will likely be the deciding factor for me

Windblade hell yeahhhh very cool character

Chromia's cyberverse design is awesome too

Sureshot has a pretty dope alt mode, might wait and see with him too