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I'm somehow not surprised at all that we're getting Sureshot since we got Crosshairs back in Siege, and then Pointblank more recently.
But I am still glad we're getting more of the lesser used Targetmasters!

Rodimus Prime wrote:Not bad. I don't like the deco so I'll wait for the Dreadwing repaint.

Almost the same here.
But instead, I'll wait for the Machine Wars Starscream repaint.

Wow, they keep remaking my favourite toys from when I was a kid! First BW Grimlock, who didn't come out all that good, and now Snarl! What's next, Manterror and Drill Bit?

I never got any toys of the original cast as while Beast Wars was still current, only some very rancid knock offs I found around 2004 or so, and even then it was just Optimus Primal, Cheetor and Megatron. So I remember using non-show characters as surrogates while playing. Grimlock was Dinobot, Manterror was Waspinator, and Snarl was Rattrap. Point is, I wouldn't be surprised if Tasmanian Kid ends up being a partial or maybe even just a straight up redeco of Rattrap. And if things go that way, it feels like it'd sort of vindicate child me's choice of surrogate for Rattrap.

It's a shame he probably won't have his arse missile, though.

Happy to see a new Windblade. She sorely needs a good figure (maybe one based on Transformers: reactivate?).

Anyway, I found all prior figures lackluster. I'm disappointed that it's a deluxe instead of a voyager or even leader class... Something like remolding the recently released SkyQuake into an imposing windblade would have been cool.

Sabrblade wrote:I'd laugh if those two unknown "Rock" ones turned out to be Rock Lords.

That was actually my first thought, and I think it would be awesome. As for Tasmanian Kid, that is smart name use since "Snarl" is well... taken. I can see him being a Core Kingdom Rattrap retool.
Its nice how one of the producers thinks of all the show anniversaries. Although unlike the OG series, and TF:TM getting anniversaries every 5 years, and many releases, seems like the others get only a couple.

Metalhawsk is a celebration of Masterforce 35th. Leo Prime being a celebration of BWII 25th etc... I'm sure there are others.

Although these 2024 listings are very early and not complete. I hope we get a Big Convoy next year.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:If Gears can live, so can Polarclaw

If they do Polarclaw, I need a Leader Class Guzzle to tear him in half! (in all seriousness though I just want a Guzzle at any scale)

I know a lot of folks have been wondering when Gears would finally get a remake. Let's hope they do him properly!

Now that I think about it - Gears SHOULD have been the star character in "Last Bot Standing", just for the sake of irony.

Nothing pops out in that list for me, never was that into Gears so I'm not really getting the excitement level others are. When they finally announce Powerglide then we're talking my language!

And since it seems they're into redoing all the mini bots as DLX I guess I wouldn't mind them redoing Seaspray as it might fit in better than the Legends figure.

I am dramatically annoyed that Energon Megatron is only going to be Core sized, but heartened that maybe the Unicron Trilogy will get some additional love besides Armada and Cybertron.

I am TERRIFIED at how they are going to eff up Animated Bumblebee.

First-Aid wrote:I am dramatically annoyed that Energon Megatron is only going to be Core sized, but heartened that maybe the Unicron Trilogy will get some additional love besides Armada and Cybertron.

I am TERRIFIED at how they are going to eff up Animated Bumblebee.

I think core energon Megatron is going to be the tank that goes with the larger Energon Megatron we would get as a leader.

I'll definitely get Animated Bumblebee, and even though I haven't seen Japanese Beast Wars I may pick up Tasmania Kid as well, because I had the original Beast Wars Snarl when I was little. I find it odd how Energon Megtron is only a Core Class, but I suppose we are getting Armada Megatron at the Leader price point, so it's not like this will be the only time we see Unicron Trilogy Megatron in this line. I'm not the biggest fan of Cyberverse and I'm not keen on Windblade as a character, but I might buy Chromia if she's done well.

I think the best part of those listings is how random Tasmania kid is on that list, though it's very exciting that Leo will get his squad it seems.

I will be curious to see how Animated Bee happens, given Prowl.

Rescue bots at last!

I am very happy that Cyberverse is getting Legacy love, and Windblade and Chromia will be more than welcome with my Cyberverse crew.

Skyquake looks so good, I am excited to get him. Still need to get Needlenose, the cores, and the voyagers from the current wave though.

I wonder if Gears will be a brand new mold. We are also getting SS86 Brawn soon, so might that be the base for Gears? And since we're getting those 2, is Outback also on the way?

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:I am dramatically annoyed that Energon Megatron is only going to be Core sized, but heartened that maybe the Unicron Trilogy will get some additional love besides Armada and Cybertron.

I am TERRIFIED at how they are going to eff up Animated Bumblebee.

I think core energon Megatron is going to be the tank that goes with the larger Energon Megatron we would get as a leader.

He would be able to play with himself.

In all seriousness, that would be cool.

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:I am dramatically annoyed that Energon Megatron is only going to be Core sized, but heartened that maybe the Unicron Trilogy will get some additional love besides Armada and Cybertron.

I am TERRIFIED at how they are going to eff up Animated Bumblebee.

I think core energon Megatron is going to be the tank that goes with the larger Energon Megatron we would get as a leader.

Except that would be core-class Armada Megatron. If it's labeled as Energon Megatron, I would assume they actually went for Energon Megs (unless they did something stupid and made an abomination with the Armada altmode and the Energon robot mode).

Personally, I don't see a Core-class version of Energon Megs as precluding a bigger one, and I actually see some appeal in getting a "distance model" version. Additionally, I'm wondering if it's a pretool of a Core-class G1 Galvatron (who we're thoroughly overdue a distance model/travel-size toy of)

Re: Animated Bumblebee... It's quite possible they'll go the full Animated aesthetic. And even if they don't, it'll at least be a decent translation of the design if Prowl's anything to go by. It won't be a trainwreck like Bulkhead, where I think they were focusing too hard on...



...The chest windows on the toy, and quite possibly forgot his being a big pickup instead of a military truck or APC because they were only looking at the robot mode.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:like Bulkhead, where I think they were focusing too hard on...



...The chest windows on the toy, and quite possibly forgot his being a big pickup instead of a military truck or APC because they were only looking at the robot mode.

It's funny you say that, because while Animated Bulkhead did use the transformation they used for the Legacy toy, the Prime Bulkhead didn't even has visible windows on his chest, just the doors with the windows seemingly retracted into the door where they weren't visible.

Sabrblade wrote:They said in a previous interview that all of the Animated figures would be G1-ified just like the Prime figures.

Considering how Prowl turned out, I don't feel worried about how the rest'll look. In my opinion at least.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:like Prime Bulkhead, where I think they were focusing too hard on...



...The chest windows on the toy, and quite possibly forgot his being a big pickup instead of a military truck or APC because they were only looking at the robot mode.

It's funny you say that, because while Animated Bulkhead did use the transformation they used for the Legacy toy, the Prime Bulkhead didn't even has visible windows on his chest, just the doors with the windows seemingly retracted into the door where they weren't visible.

His animation model didn't have visible windows, but - as those pictures unambiguously show - his toys very plainly did. And I think they were looking too much at that for the Legacy version.

Sabrblade wrote:They said in a previous interview that all of the Animated figures would be G1-ified just like the Prime figures.

Well, it's possible they've changed their minds on that during development. But still, based on Prowl, they should at least turn out decently. And I'm still hoping for Leader-class Animated Starscream. Because G1-ified or not, it would be REALLY nice to have an accurately-designed Animated Starscream that wasn't a Legends-class toy without a proper pelvis. Most Animated toys did a good job on the designs, but Starscream's Voyager and Activators toys f'd up royally.

My thoughts on these reveals:
* Core & Deluxe Rock 1, Deluxe Rock 2: I wonder what these will turn out to be. I know the "Energon Monsters" turned out to be Pretenders.
* Tasmania Kid: I'd probably rather just get an original BW Snarl
* Animated Bumblebee: Hopefully it copies the design of Jetpack Bumblebee and is about the same size.
* RB Chase: *shrug* Not really interested, but will be interested to see what they do
* Cyberverse Windblade: Ditto
* Cyberverse Chromia: Ditto
* Gears: Now there's the business. That's a Minibot we've been missing an update for, the head turned out stupid on the last go so unlike the corresponding Swerve it doesn't pass muster. With this, I think we're good aside from the Throttlebots.
* Sureshot: Also looking forward to - at last the 1987 Autobot Targetmasters will be complete. Hopefully Hasbro will also reissue the Decepticon ones from TR, especially Slugslinger and freakin' Misfire (**** the eBay prices for him right up the-)

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:I am dramatically annoyed that Energon Megatron is only going to be Core sized, but heartened that maybe the Unicron Trilogy will get some additional love besides Armada and Cybertron.

I am TERRIFIED at how they are going to eff up Animated Bumblebee.

I think core energon Megatron is going to be the tank that goes with the larger Energon Megatron we would get as a leader.

Except that would be core-class Armada Megatron. If it's labeled as Energon Megatron, I would assume they actually went for Energon Megs (unless they did something stupid and made an abomination with the Armada altmode and the Energon robot mode).

Personally, I don't see a Core-class version of Energon Megs as precluding a bigger one, and I actually see some appeal in getting a "distance model" version. Additionally, I'm wondering if it's a pretool of a Core-class G1 Galvatron (who we're thoroughly overdue a distance model/travel-size toy of)

It would make perfect sense that the Core Energon Megatron listing and what is being referred to above is meant to be the tank accessory that the original Energon Megatron came with.

I think it would be awesome if we could get his gun/tank as its own figure that could interact with a later wave Leader Energon Megatron.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Hopefully Hasbro will also reissue the Decepticon ones from TR, especially Slugslinger and freakin' Misfire (**** the eBay prices for him right up the-)

The aftermarket prices are terrifying - I will forever be grateful for my luck at finding Slugslinger on shelves. Hopefully you get your hands on those two, they're fantastic figures. (I'm still hoping there'll be a redeco of SS86 Scourge with all the toy-accurate goodness and his TM buddy Fracas like they did with Cyclonus...though I feel the release of SS86 Sweep nixed that, and that does not cut it in my book!)

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Hopefully Hasbro will also reissue the Decepticon ones from TR, especially Slugslinger and freakin' Misfire (**** the eBay prices for him right up the-)

The aftermarket prices are terrifying - I will forever be grateful for my luck at finding Slugslinger on shelves. Hopefully you get your hands on those two, they're fantastic figures. (I'm still hoping there'll be a redeco of SS86 Scourge with all the toy-accurate goodness and his TM buddy Fracas like they did with Cyclonus...though I feel the release of SS86 Sweep nixed that, and that does not cut it in my book!)

How the hell-

Gears could have been an Amazon exclusive that came with a small Spiderman figure. If licensing from Marvel didn't cost a billion bucks.

LinaNui wrote:It would make perfect sense that the Core Energon Megatron listing and what is being referred to above is meant to be the tank accessory that the original Energon Megatron came with.

Can you care to explain how exactly that would "make perfect sense"?

Energon Megatron is a space jet with a tank accessory, not a tank himself, so why exactly would it make sense for a figure identified and sold as Energon Megatron... to be the tank accessory? That would be like expecting a smaller-size figure identified as Trypticon... to be Full-Tilt or Brunt.

LinaNui wrote:I think it would be awesome if we could get his gun/tank as its own figure that could interact with a later wave Leader Energon Megatron.

Yes, it would. And what would make sense, would be for that figure to be a core-class Armada Megatron.


The guy who is a tank, and who Energon Megatron's tank accessory is a downsized effigy of.

Bottom line, if the core class figure was the tank accessory I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be under Energon Megs' name (unless they did something really stupid and made a tank that turned into his robot mode).

SpaceEagle wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Hopefully Hasbro will also reissue the Decepticon ones from TR, especially Slugslinger and freakin' Misfire (**** the eBay prices for him right up the-)

The aftermarket prices are terrifying - I will forever be grateful for my luck at finding Slugslinger on shelves. Hopefully you get your hands on those two, they're fantastic figures. (I'm still hoping there'll be a redeco of SS86 Scourge with all the toy-accurate goodness and his TM buddy Fracas like they did with Cyclonus...though I feel the release of SS86 Sweep nixed that, and that does not cut it in my book!)

Well, I don't think it's just SS86 Sweep that nixed that. I think it's SS86 Sweep together with the fact that they already gave us a Lazy Halfassed Fracas back when they did the Phantomstrike set.

It is true that the light blue on SS86 Sweep isn't really an exacting match for the original toy's light blue (Scourge's sticker details are ugly so I'm not counting those as "goodness" )