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Personally, I would love to see a retool of that Power of the Primes Starscream into a proper LeoZack. Heck even throw in a Hound/Swindle recolor as Jaruga. Though I doubt they would show that this weekend...

If I know my dinobots by parts, that new pictures would be Slag (or Slug or whatever they call him now) on the Left...

william-james88 wrote:I'm just wondering, does it really matter that we are right on who exactly is in these preview images? We know the terrorcons, dinobots and fembots will be present at the con tomorrow.

I swear, I don't mean this the way I'm worried it may come across, especially to you, Will. But I'm not sure what the issue of this kind of speculation is. If, in the case of the Titan Predaking mock up from the weekend, we're supposed to be glad that Hasbro is "trusting" us or whatever with peeks at what's coming soon, why should we not be feeling more or less the same with these images? If we're talking about arguing which Dinobot this foot and tail belongs to, I can totally agree that it's mostly pointless, since you're right, we do know that we're getting Dinobots, and we can reasonably surmise that we'll see them over the weekend. But don't we know we're getting Dinobots either from that Powerpoint of images from the summer that was pulled from the boards because Hasbro was upset that it leaked, or from the 4chan leak that was decried as fake because Hasbro hadn't confirmed the info? So basically, through a combo of leaks that we're supposed to reject or accept based mostly on brand loyalty, we know that these images are of the DinobotS, as in not just a Grimlock or a Slag, but the whole team. We heard about Titan Predaking through the 4chan leak, and got a picture last weekend. We heard about Dinos and Terrorcons through both leaks, and now are getting official teaser images of them.

So, what are we supposed to do? Are we supposed to get hyped at leaked news, or disregard it and wait for the official news that, when it leaks out like these images, we are then not serving any purpose in speculating over? While I realize it's fun to guess Dinobot feet, I don't care enough to join in, because I know we're getting Dinobots, because that 4chan leak told us that. At least the Terrorcons all look different, and we're not just counting toes or looking for thagomizers, a word I only know because of Dinobots. I'm finding the Terrorcon images exciting, because they seem like they're going to look like the Terrorcons, and not just some rando monster things called Terrorcons, the way the AoE Dinobots ended up being not really the kind of Dinobots that I had interest in.

I mean, we're fans. You know how fans are. A half second image of a finger in a movie trailer and we're off to the races trying to identify who it belongs to. There's no real harm in it, especially when we already know what's coming, again, from the 4chan leak and that Powerpoint.

But that's totally Rippersnapper. No way it's Fizzle.

Also, partly because that leak was pulled so quickly and partly because not every fan follows every single leak; this is news to a fair amount of people. Probably not a majority of our posters, but still to some of them.

william-james88 wrote:I'm just wondering, does it really matter that we are right on who exactly is in these preview images? We know the terrorcons, dinobots and fembots will be present at the con tomorrow.

I'm reminded of the bit about baseball in Blast from the Past.

"Because he must!"

I'm already seeing Air Raid in Rippersnapper and I'm assuming Sludge and Hungurr will be retools of each other. Gah, Hasbro's becoming more and more predictable.

Etseterrestrial wrote:I'm already seeing Air Raid in Rippersnapper and I'm assuming Sludge and Hungurr will be retools of each other. Gah, Hasbro's becoming more and more predictable.

Not at all, given Sludge is a Deluxe and Hun-Gurr is a Voyager.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Emerje wrote:Just by them now seemingly covering all of the combiner pegs in bot mode is enough to rekindle my interest in CW. Imagine how awesome Prowl, Smokescreen, and Bluestreak would have been if they had shared engineering with Jazz instead of Dead End.

Emerje

That could go either way. Prowl and his mold mates, along with Dead End and his mold mates all had their pegs covered in bot mode by the fake car hood chest. What made most people tire of those molds was the 10-20 uses between CW, UW and funpub. I suspect if they were all based off the Jazz mode instead, there would still be some apathy toward the Jazz mode then. Basically give us 6+ uses of the same mold, and people will get tired of it.

I think the key is limiting the re-uses of any mold with only a head and deco swap, in favor of more shared engineering and minor retooling.

Really just comes down to being the right chest. Prowl and the like just don't quite look right with a (forgive me for saying this) flat chest. I'm not saying they should do them again or shouldn't have done him before, just that it's too bad they weren't a little more creative back during CW and made something like Jazz back then. Sure, we'd then have four uses of the Jazz mold, but that sure does beat the 16 uses of Dead End that we have now.

william-james88 wrote:I'm just wondering, does it really matter that we are right on who exactly is in these preview images? We know the terrorcons, dinobots and fembots will be present at the con tomorrow.

"Who's that Pokemon?"

Will: "What does it matter, we've already seen them all."

Emerje

The con is Ripppersnapper for sure

Etseterrestrial wrote:I'm already seeing Air Raid in Rippersnapper and I'm assuming Sludge and Hungurr will be retools of each other. Gah, Hasbro's becoming more and more predictable.

Ah yes, you can really see the similarities in the... presence of legs and arms.

Okay to be fair I can see what you're talking about to some extent, but there are plenty of details which don't match up either. The feet seem to be quite similar-looking, but at the same time the knees and shins look almost totally different - and since those are all one part, what would be the point in creating a newly-tooled part that just so happened to be 20% identical to the original one? I think it's more likely that some details just happened to line up, rather than that Hasbro immediately jumped on the opportunity to turn a jet into a limbed shark just 'cause they're so lazy and predictable.

The possibility isn't out of the question, I'll grant you that - the more I think about it, the more Air Raid's or the other Aerialbots' engineering could work for Rippersnapper (would that really be so bad anyway? It'd still be a significant enough change to feel relatively new and we know it'd be a solidly-engineered toy at least) - but I think it's a little too early yet to cry "predictable retool". Let's wait until we actually see the toy(s) before we denounce them as non-original molds; otherwise, you're just making the prediction that Hasbro's being predictable, and if that doesn't do one's head in I don't know what would.

Scrolling through Instagram and came across this pic under the #hascon

HasCon is underway and thanks to Seibertronian Hwk13 and monizmischief on Instagram we've got a better look at the upcoming Deluxe Jazz figure. Check it out below:



We've got more coming later from HasCon today, so stay tuned into us!

Woah, that Jazz actually looks really good.

So are these limbs?! Nothing has really been covered on those combiner ports. Dreadwind and Darkwing are retools of the arielbots and they combine together but they got the pegs and Jazz has one too but none of them have the hands/feet piece so what's up? It certainly doesn't look like they have a function with the Prime masters. Sure the terrorcons are coming and we know the dinobots but what's going on with the ones that have been revealed

The more I see the PotP Jazz, the more I consider getting rid of Special Ops Jazz. He looks really good (apart from an apparent lack of paint on the back half of the car. But I love that they snuck some Martini stripes on there.

Darkwing also looks better from this angle imo.

Can't wait to pick up Jazz,Beachcomber,Dreadwind,Blackwing,Skullgrin and all the others. The light piping on Jazz is epic.

Was Expecting Hydra to show up...

now...
Where's that damn [B]attletrap?

Albatross250 wrote:Was Expecting Hydra to show up...

now...
Where's that damn [B]attletrap?

It's one picture. The con hasn't even started

Randomhero wrote:So are these limbs?!

Yup they are limbs. They revealed the HFGs in different slides where they are attached as armour. And the voyagers come with the feet which become "weapons".

this is basically CW 2.0 for all intents and purposes.

Randomhero wrote:So are these limbs?! Nothing has really been covered on those combiner ports. Dreadwind and Darkwing are retools of the arielbots and they combine together but they got the pegs and Jazz has one too but none of them have the hands/feet piece so what's up? It certainly doesn't look like they have a function with the Prime masters. Sure the terrorcons are coming and we know the dinobots but what's going on with the ones that have been revealed

Could the limb components be integrated into the figures now? Granted, I see nothing that could back it up, but maybe? However, I think they are part of a Titan/Prime Master gimmick we haven't seen as of yet, or maybe something else entirely.

More Clear Images from Hascon (i hope)
And damn, Screamer will make you really scream by his G1 and FOC vibe lol

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:So are these limbs?!

Yup they are limbs. They revealed the HFGs in different slides where they are attached as armour. And the voyagers come with the feet which become "weapons".

this is basically CW 2.0 for all intents and purposes.

CW 2.0 Now with a combining leader class gimmick as well. I have a strong feeling HasTak will make my Magnus Prime and PMOP feel obsolete. Hopefully the new Prime will be shown today in full, since all we have seen so far are the leaked images IIRC.

mordhelm wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:So are these limbs?!

Yup they are limbs. They revealed the HFGs in different slides where they are attached as armour. And the voyagers come with the feet which become "weapons".

this is basically CW 2.0 for all intents and purposes.

CW 2.0 Now with a combining leader class gimmick as well. I have a strong feeling HasTak will make my Magnus Prime and PMOP feel obsolete. Hopefully the new Prime will be shown today in full, since all we have seen so far are the leaked images IIRC.

I dont think they will be obsolete. That leader prime is a G1 styled Optimus Prime, which looks very different from PMOP. Also, your PMOP can still be used to connect to other bases and be a battle station for titan masters, which the POTP Leader prime cant do.

So yeah, its still way early. Looked at multiple sites and all I've seen are the same 7 that were revealed at SDCC. But at least we have clearer pics, and a nice look at some of the packaging (I really want a detailed look at the back of Voyager Starscreams box though for obvious reasons...). I'm sure better pics are coming that will show off toys revealed in the leak on July 24th.

Thanks to the fan community overall. I know the convention has only been going a couple of hours, and there's much more going on, and on display than just Transformers, but my anticipation is very high as to what will be revealed very soon.