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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:19 pm

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I don't like that his backside is mostly uncovered/uncolored/unplated. There's nothing on the back of his torso, arms, or legs.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Techorgan » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:21 pm

I'm ok with this design of Hot Rod. :-? But if u guys look closely at the middle chest-piece & his "crotch", I wonder why they reuse parts from AOE Lockdown?? >:oP P.S.: Again, look closely at his torso & the center of his middle chest-piece, it appears he transforms into a modern Lamborghini. Still, I don't know which model are they using...
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:25 pm

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He could even only have a cameo appearance at the film's ending meant to build up hype for the sixth movie. Or he could even just be killed off shortly after his introduction just the shock the audience.



1: why the hell would the reveal him now if he was just a cameo at the end of the movie would they not keep it a secret?


2: They have never done that with new Autobots in the movies EVER and why bother making a unique design for him with an expensive car mode to kill him off eh?



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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:25 pm

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Jeddostotle7 wrote:I don't like that his backside is mostly uncovered/uncolored/unplated. There's nothing on the back of his torso, arms, or legs.



Yes there is it's the inside of the car like engines and wires and such.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deathsaurus1 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:30 pm

He's a Lamborghini eh? Cool.
The engine block looks like it says Lamborghini on it.
Could be wrong.

edit: he appears to be a Lamborghini centenario.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby SlyTF1 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:34 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote:This is huge.

No, it's just another character reveal.


Of a massive character in Transformers lore.
Who may or may not be a massive character in the movie. You're assuming things based on the name alone, yet previous films have shown that a big name doesn't always make the character a big deal in their movie. For instance, Shockwave is a huge name, yet he was barely in DOTM. Grimlock, too, is a big name, yet he played no big role in AOE until its final 20 minutes out of what was almost a 3 hour movie, and said role was little more than being Optimus's fire-breathing horse.

We needn't have to get too excited about this reveal just yet until we find out more about what kind of role he'll play in the movie. For all we know, he could be a double agent who tries to assassinate Optimus for the Decepticons, or he could be a mere comic relief foil for the more main characters to play off of, or he could even only have a cameo appearance at the film's ending meant to build up hype for the sixth movie. Or he could even just be killed off shortly after his introduction just the shock the audience.

We simply don't know anything about him at this point, so there's not much to go on for now besides his name since he could have had any name with that design and still be the same character anyway. And with the films' history of using familiar names for different characters, it's anyone's guess as to whether or not he'll have any real importance to the film's story or if he'll be anything like the typical Hot Rod character type (beyond the rudimentary details we are given by this image).


I don't care what his role is. All that matters is that he's in the movie. That opens up doors for him to be in future movies, just like AOE did for Grimlock and the Dinobots. It's especially interesting that they described Hot Rod as Bumblebee's Brother-In-Arms, since Bumblebee's standalone movie is coming out after TLK. He now has a relative to play off of, so to speak; someone to relate to and interact with.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby JazZeke » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:35 pm

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Deadput wrote:2: They have never done that with new Autobots in the movies EVER and why bother making a unique design for him with an expensive car mode to kill him off eh?

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby JazZeke » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:38 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote:I don't care what his role is. All that matters is that he's in the movie. That opens up doors for him to be in future movies, just like AOE did for Grimlock and the Dinobots.

Because that worked so well for Sideswipe, Arcee, Jolt, Skids...
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:50 pm

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Deadput wrote:1: why the hell would the reveal him now if he was just a cameo at the end of the movie would they not keep it a secret?
The same reason a lot of things happen in this brand: To Sell Toys.

And what would be gained by keeping him a secret when he's virtually unrecognizable as anyone familiar?

Besides, AOE treated the Dinobots as a big surprise reveal near the end and they were all announced as being in the movie early on in that film's major promotional campaign.

Deadput wrote:2: They have never done that with new Autobots in the movies EVER
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Deadput wrote:and why bother making a unique design for him with an expensive car mode to kill him off eh?
To. Sell. Toys.

And we're dealing with a new writing staff, so just because something hasn't been done before doesn't mean it can't or won't ever be done.

For someone who claims to be open-minded about the possibilities for the movies, you're not really being very open-minded about these possibilities, regardless or whether they will or won't happen.

Deadput wrote:Why does no one think logically about stuff like this like Jesus Christ.
I could ask yourself the same question, frankly.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:50 pm

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Jeddostotle7 wrote:I don't like that his backside is mostly uncovered/uncolored/unplated. There's nothing on the back of his torso, arms, or legs.



Yes there is it's the inside of the car like engines and wires and such.


Otherwise known as the innards. What other movie Transformer is similarly unplated/uncolored on the back, with their vehicle mode innards showing? I just went and looked at the character models of a bunch of bayverse Transformers, and none of them are like this. It's like he had plating and such on his back, but he removed it. It's genuinely inexplicable. There's no reason I can think of for him to be like this.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby SlyTF1 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:56 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote:I don't care what his role is. All that matters is that he's in the movie. That opens up doors for him to be in future movies, just like AOE did for Grimlock and the Dinobots.

Because that worked so well for Sideswipe, Arcee, Jolt, Skids...


That... was a different time. If they're trying to do this whole cinematic universe thing now, it doesn't make sense that they would announce a major character like this to just to do nothing with him.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:59 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote:This is huge.
That's what she said. >:oP

And I wonder if he will have the same speech impediment as Bee since they are similar in design and are "brothers." (Yes, I know Bee wasn't "born" with it, but to make Hot Rod relatable to Bee, they need to have character similarities.)
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby JazZeke » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:00 am

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SlyTF1 wrote:I don't care what his role is. All that matters is that he's in the movie. That opens up doors for him to be in future movies, just like AOE did for Grimlock and the Dinobots.

Because that worked so well for Sideswipe, Arcee, Jolt, Skids...


That... was a different time. If they're trying to do this whole cinematic universe thing now, it doesn't make sense that they would announce a major character like this to just to do nothing with him.

Let's wait and see if this "expanded universe" organized by the writer of friggin' Batnipples and Robin will have any effect at reeling Bay in before we declare this a new era of peace and prosperity, shall we?
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Mr_Autobot411 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:01 am

i remember in the DOTM concept art they called sentinal prime "Ultra magnus" so maybe this isnt hotrod but maybe it will end up being cliff jumper, which would make this design much more appealing then this being Hot rod. Its bay though so yea lol :HEADHURTS:

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:01 am

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Deadput wrote:2: They have never done that with new Autobots in the movies EVER
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For someone who claims to be open-minded about the possibilities for the movies, you're not really being very open-minded about these possibilities, regardless or whether they will or won't happen.



You said kill them off as they are introduced not at the end of the movie long after they were introduced as in what happened to cliffjumper in prime.

They won't do that to hot rod they will probably wait until at least the end of the film.

I am open minded for giving things a chance not for stupid unlikely speculation and if I'm not so what I'm human we tend to be short sighted and hypocritical welcome to earth.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:02 am

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SlyTF1 wrote:I don't care what his role is. All that matters is that he's in the movie. That opens up doors for him to be in future movies, just like AOE did for Grimlock and the Dinobots.

Because that worked so well for Sideswipe, Arcee, Jolt, Skids...


That... was a different time. If they're trying to do this whole cinematic universe thing now, it doesn't make sense that they would announce a major character like this to just to do nothing with him.
How do you already know that he's a major character? By his name? Again, you're assuming things without knowing anything about what role he'll play in the movie.

I know you just said that you don't care what role he plays and that what matters to you is that he's in the movie at all, but his merely being in the movie doesn't automatically make him a major character since it's the role he'll that will determine how important (or unimportant) a character he is.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:05 am

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Mr_Autobot411 wrote:i remember in the DOTM concept art they called sentinal prime "Ultra magnus" so maybe this isnt hotrod but maybe it will end up being cliff jumper, which would make this design much more appealing then this being Hot rod. Its bay though so yea lol :HEADHURTS:

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That was concept art that came after the movie using a code name like how megatron was called cyclonus so people would be misinformed if it got leaked.


The official news calls him hot rod this is the same thing with Hound last time.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Mr_Autobot411 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:06 am

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Mr_Autobot411 wrote:i remember in the DOTM concept art they called sentinal prime "Ultra magnus" so maybe this isnt hotrod but maybe it will end up being cliff jumper, which would make this design much more appealing then this being Hot rod. Its bay though so yea lol :HEADHURTS:

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this is what im referring too, he was Sen Prime was called Ultra Magnus in the DOTM, so maybe he isnt hot rod? Bay for ya lol
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:07 am

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Deadput wrote:You said kill them off as they are introduced not at the end of the movie long after they were introduced as in what happened to cliffjumper in prime.

They won't do that to hot rod they will probably wait until at least the end of the film.
Ah, so you admit that it is possible that he could be killed off. Good.

For the record, we also agree that it's possible that he could instead survive, as it's all up in the air at this point.

Deadput wrote:I am open minded for giving things a chance not for stupid unlikely speculation and if I'm not so what I'm human we tend to be short sighted and hypocritical welcome to earth.
Stupid to you or not, speculation is all we have to go on at this point. Otherwise, what's the point in even discussing this TLK Hot Rod news if we can't speculate about anything?

We can't really have a discussion that consists entirely of variations of "OMG! A TLK Hot Rod! SQUEE!"
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:11 am

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Mr_Autobot411 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:12 am

Deadput wrote:
Mr_Autobot411 wrote:i remember in the DOTM concept art they called sentinal prime "Ultra magnus" so maybe this isnt hotrod but maybe it will end up being cliff jumper, which would make this design much more appealing then this being Hot rod. Its bay though so yea lol :HEADHURTS:

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That was concept art that came after the movie using a code name like how megatron was called cyclonus so people would be misinformed if it got leaked.


The official news calls him hot rod this is the same thing with Hound last time.


fascinating, thanks for the info. Well it looks like they are gonna change his mythos etc. Bay for ya lol :HEADHURTS:

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:13 am

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I like the design but not sure it's 'Hot Rod' enough. I know movie characters can look completely different to their G1 name sakes but often they have their own really cool distinctive looks (movie Swideswipe isn't even the same colour as G1 Sideswipe and yet I still think he looks far, far cooler)

Eh I'd still take this over the godawful IDW Hot Rod design who pretty much overdoes the 'Hot Rod' thing especially with his stupid looking head...almost as bad as IDW's Blurr's head...
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Hiboman » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:19 am

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Spider 001 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:34 am

5th movie & people are still looking for the G1 character? That has to be the worst learning disability ever!

It's a generic, boring, black & red robot with the name "Hot Rod" slapped on it. It has nothing to do with the G1 character. :roll:
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:36 am

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Deadput wrote:I'm not speculating
I can see that.

But what you are doing is brushing off all of my speculations for no discernible reason other than for what I deduce to be as you simply not liking like the possibilities I raised (regardless of whether they will or won't happen), which you have every right to dislike but which does not excuse your treating me like a fool for raising them in an attempt to bring reason to Sly's premature celebrating the news of this currently-enigmatic character.

Deadput wrote:I'm just saying posts like "this probably won't happen" and talking about how the design doesn't have to be copy and paste of G1.
People have a right to their own opinions even if you don't share them.

And just so you know, my previous notings of this TLK Hot Rod being unrecognizable by his design were neither a complaint about said design nor its lack of resembling the G1 design, but were instead matter of fact observations meant to further illustrate to Sly how little we know about this character or the role he'll play in the movie.

The points were all aimed at Sly, anyway, so you didn't need to jump in on them when there was nothing in them for you to get defensive about.

Why, the most I myself have even said about this design was a little "be careful what you wish for" joke aimed at the G1 crowd who kept asking for a Movie Hot Rod yet got this very non-G1-looking Hot Rod instead.
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