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[DerrikDGreat]

Attaching the SFX pieces to the bot bothers me. They did it with megatron too.

[Wolfman Jake]

Attaching the SFX pieces to the bot bothers me. They did it with megatron too.

It's just added functionality that's completely optional. Why does it bother you so much?

[Mistanistreet]

Sixgun looks familiar.....

[joevill]

Wow! Looks like a lot of fun to play with!!

[Overcracker]

Why does Six-Gun's altmode look familiar?

He reminds me of Energon Skyblast:



Prowl seems off, specially the feet.

Pteraxodon looks very cool in Axe mode.

[Wireless_Phantom]

I'm definitely getting all three of these. I kind of wish Prowl had his shoulder launchers but it is no big deal.

[Wireless_Phantom]

I honestly wasn’t sure I wanted a Weaponizer Sixgun only because Scamper is a Legend. But this looks awesome and I am in!

Prowl needs his rocket Launchers. That seems an odd feature to leave out in this more war themed line, but the Classics Prowl is in need of a replacement.

Preditron I am more on the fence about.

In regards to his shoulder launchers he does have those two small rectangular holes on his collar area which don't seem to serve any purpose so maybe that is what they are for.

[Wireless_Phantom]

Why does Six-Gun's altmode look familiar?

Stil Six-Gun looks great that's three for three with for the Weaponizers,

Screech, I mean Pteraxadon was who I predicted it would be and is another buy.

Prowl looks okay, but something seems off

Six-Gun's altmode personally reminds me a little bit of IDW Whirl.

[Nemesis Primal]

Alright, well, Prowl is disappointing as expected, I have no interest in picking him up, and I'm now once again finding myself less excited for Barricade.

Pteraxadon looks cool, he'll be the only Action Master I'll pick up of the ones we've seen so far.

Six-Gun is absolutely the best part of this reveal though. He ISN'T just a repaint/retool of Cog, he looks amazing, he actually has HANDS now, and his new Cybertronian VTOL gunship alt mode looks badass.

I also like how the product details for Six-Gun call him a tank, but we're all ignoring that because he looks nothing like a tank.

I do have a concern though: do those slides say these guys are all Wave 2 figures? If that's true, Hasbro's going to be putting out a wave with SIX new Deluxes, which basically guarantees short-packing. That's bad news for everyone who wants three Refraktors...

[Munkky]

Hmm, if Prowl and Six-Gun are Wave 2, that'll mean Wave 2 of the Deluxes for this line will be a lot larger than usual. Either way, Six-Gun does look nice, I may get him instead of Cog. Prowl is an easy pass, but if the Barricade retool we're supposedly getting turns out okay I might buy that.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Sixgun and Pteraxadon look amazing!! I continue to love the little battlemasters! And the Weaponizers!!

Prowl, just... something is not right objectively it looks good, but something just isn't right, and it's kind of disappointing that this is most likely the mold for Barricade. The alt mode is gorgeous, but the bot mode is lacking somewhere I can't quite place

[Wolfman Jake]

Sixgun and Pteraxadon look amazing!! I continue to love the little battlemasters! And the Weaponizers!!

Prowl, just... something is not right objectively it looks good, but something just isn't right, and it's kind of disappointing that this is most likely the mold for Barricade. The alt mode is gorgeous, but the bot mode is lacking somewhere I can't quite place

I think the problem is that these are Hasbro's computer renders and not the actual product that we'll be able to buy that is part of the problem. Whatever lighting effects they are using are washing out a lot of the gunmetal gray in parts of the figure, making those parts blend with the black parts. Another problem is that there is too much yellow going on, where red or gray/white paint would have made more sense and been more G1 accurate (cartoon or toy). The yellow arm stripes are a nod to the toy, I understand, but they could have used the traditional red triangle and silver detailing on the pelvis instead of solid yellow. Yes, I checked and the G1 toy had yellow outlines around those shapes on the pelvis, but that's a far cry from filling in those features as solid yellow. The legs are a little plain looking too. Some don't like their shape, but it's pretty spot on for his G1 look, honestly. What doesn't work so well is the colorless clear plastic for the windows. They should have either gone with light blue for a cartoon look or smoky gray for a G1 toy look. Either color would help break up the solid "white" on the lower legs. A few more touches, like some orange-red turn signals on the front and back bumpers would have been nice too, and provided a little more dynamic coloring for the robot mode chest and feet. We've seen some changes between the Hasbro renders and the final product before, so I'm hoping Prowl isn't too far into production right now for Hasbro to make at least one of these changes (I'm betting on the color of the clear plastic being changed ultimately).

[Nickster563]

Alright, well, Prowl is disappointing as expected, I have no interest in picking him up, and I'm now once again finding myself less excited for Barricade.

Pteraxadon looks cool, he'll be the only Action Master I'll pick up of the ones we've seen so far.

Six-Gun is absolutely the best part of this reveal though. He ISN'T just a repaint/retool of Cog, he looks amazing, he actually has HANDS now, and his new Cybertronian VTOL gunship alt mode looks badass.

I also like how the product details for Six-Gun call him a tank, but we're all ignoring that because he looks nothing like a tank.

I do have a concern though: do those slides say these guys are all Wave 2 figures? If that's true, Hasbro's going to be putting out a wave with SIX new Deluxes, which basically guarantees short-packing. That's bad news for everyone who wants three Refraktors...

Hasbro said in an interview at nycc that refraktor is wave 3 so that means wave 2 is a five fig wave

[Nemesis Primal]

Alright, well, Prowl is disappointing as expected, I have no interest in picking him up, and I'm now once again finding myself less excited for Barricade.

Pteraxadon looks cool, he'll be the only Action Master I'll pick up of the ones we've seen so far.

Six-Gun is absolutely the best part of this reveal though. He ISN'T just a repaint/retool of Cog, he looks amazing, he actually has HANDS now, and his new Cybertronian VTOL gunship alt mode looks badass.

I also like how the product details for Six-Gun call him a tank, but we're all ignoring that because he looks nothing like a tank.

I do have a concern though: do those slides say these guys are all Wave 2 figures? If that's true, Hasbro's going to be putting out a wave with SIX new Deluxes, which basically guarantees short-packing. That's bad news for everyone who wants three Refraktors...

Hasbro said in an interview at nycc that refraktor is wave 3 so that means wave 2 is a five fig wave

....and this interview is where? And why has it not been brought up before now? That seems like something that should have been brought up well before now, and if that's true, someone should also change TFWiki.

Also I just realized I wrote Action Master instead of Battle Master because of Pteraxadon seemingly being based off of Screech, whoops.

[Albatross250]

All we need now is FastTrack for the next wave
Glad to see Sixgun in Jet Mode.
Hope he's compatible with Metroplex.

Well he won’t becuase that’s a 5 year old toy but he’s got plenty of 5mm screw holes so you can put parts on him but don’t think they designed him to actually have a certain function with metroplex

Aww too bad, probably he'll be compatible with Slammer and Scamper for some reason. Sixgun Origininally was an AA Radar on G1 but he looks like a futuristic Gunship that looks similar to IDW Whirl.

[Nickster563]

Alright, well, Prowl is disappointing as expected, I have no interest in picking him up, and I'm now once again finding myself less excited for Barricade.

Pteraxadon looks cool, he'll be the only Action Master I'll pick up of the ones we've seen so far.

Six-Gun is absolutely the best part of this reveal though. He ISN'T just a repaint/retool of Cog, he looks amazing, he actually has HANDS now, and his new Cybertronian VTOL gunship alt mode looks badass.

I also like how the product details for Six-Gun call him a tank, but we're all ignoring that because he looks nothing like a tank.

I do have a concern though: do those slides say these guys are all Wave 2 figures? If that's true, Hasbro's going to be putting out a wave with SIX new Deluxes, which basically guarantees short-packing. That's bad news for everyone who wants three Refraktors...

Hasbro said in an interview at nycc that refraktor is wave 3 so that means wave 2 is a five fig wave

....and this interview is where? And why has it not been brought up before now? That seems like something that should have been brought up well before now, and if that's true, someone should also change TFWiki.

Also I just realized I wrote Action Master instead of Battle Master because of Pteraxadon seemingly being based off of Screech, whoops.

Sorry interview wasnt the right word. I saw a video of the display at nycc on unicron.com where someone brought up refraktor and one of the designers mentioned that he was wave 3

[Wolfman Jake]

Alright, well, Prowl is disappointing as expected, I have no interest in picking him up, and I'm now once again finding myself less excited for Barricade.

Pteraxadon looks cool, he'll be the only Action Master I'll pick up of the ones we've seen so far.

Six-Gun is absolutely the best part of this reveal though. He ISN'T just a repaint/retool of Cog, he looks amazing, he actually has HANDS now, and his new Cybertronian VTOL gunship alt mode looks badass.

I also like how the product details for Six-Gun call him a tank, but we're all ignoring that because he looks nothing like a tank.

I do have a concern though: do those slides say these guys are all Wave 2 figures? If that's true, Hasbro's going to be putting out a wave with SIX new Deluxes, which basically guarantees short-packing. That's bad news for everyone who wants three Refraktors...

Hasbro said in an interview at nycc that refraktor is wave 3 so that means wave 2 is a five fig wave

Why does Reflector being in Wave 3 mean that Wave 2 has five figures instead of four?

[Emerje]

We could also see Micromaster combiners. All of the Micromasters shown so far had the ability to connect to each other for weapons. They didn't show up until 1990, though I would be surprised to have Micromasters two years in a row.

Some combination of Frenzy, Rumble, Buzzsaw, Ratbat, Wingthing seems like a safe bet for a second or third spy pack.

Slamdance and Squawkbox or bust!

Or Tigerbreast and Eaglebreast because at this point with the new scale I think Dezarus would be a Voyager and I doubt they'd be able to include his Breast Animals at the price. But seeing how big the tapes are and the convenience of two-packs this seems like a great solution.

Why does Six-Gun's altmode look familiar?

Stil Six-Gun looks great that's three for three with for the Weaponizers,

Screech, I mean Pteraxadon was who I predicted it would be and is another buy.

Prowl looks okay, but something seems off

Sixguns' alt mode reminds me of Generations Sandstorm's.


I think the problem with Prowl is the clear windows in the legs are huge making them look entirely hollow. I hope it looks better in person, but I have my doubts. Hopefully Barricade has dark tinted windows which should look better.

Hmm, if Prowl and Six-Gun are Wave 2, that'll mean Wave 2 of the Deluxes for this line will be a lot larger than usual.

Right now Wave 2 is only 4 figures like wave 1, adding these two to Chromia and Ironhide. It wouldn't be too surprising if there was a fifth figure (hopefully a Decepticon) in wave 2 since PotP wave 2 and TR wave 4 both had five figures.

Emerje

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I don't think Wave 2 was fully decided upon when the info was cleared. That or Hasbro is keen on playing musical chairs again.

Really, we don't have enough confirmed WFC ID's in order to determine who is released when, most notably S8 and S9 are missing for the Deluxes. And product codes are no real help as in the past they never lined up with other forms of ID 100% of the time.

Generally speaking, E35** is for Waves 1 and 2, but E44** that Refraktor, Brunt and Red Alert fall under seem to be planned for Wave 3. But plans can change in a split second.

[Nemesis Primal]

Why does Reflector being in Wave 3 mean that Wave 2 has five figures instead of four?

The issue here is that until right now, nobody knew who was in Wave 2. We know for a fact that Ironhide and Chromia are part of it. After NYCC, everyone assumed, apparently incorrectly, that Refraktor and Brunt were also in Wave 2, and maybe Red Alert as well. Fast forward to today, when two more figures are announced that are absolutely in Wave 2, and now we potentially have a 6-7 figure Deluxe Wave out of nowhere WHAT!?

So confirmation of Refraktor being Wave 3 means we're down to 6, and Red Alert TECHNICALLY wasn't revealed officially, so we're down to 5 unless Brunt is also Wave 3. If he is, THEN Wave 2 is four Deluxes.

Basically, Hasbro just needs to be clearer what waves the figures are in when they show them off for this line, given how strange and eclectic the reveals have been.

[frogbat]

Yep... and sixgun ‘s arms might be good stand-ins

[Dannshinigami]

Its funny how Sixguns bio states he is a tank when its obviously an attack hoverdrone thing which is awesome.

[Agamemnon]

I count more than six guns...

[TF-fan kev777]

Anyone else notice that they forgot to color Six-Gun's head red for the hover-thingy mode and bunch-o-parts photos? You can see it just behind the cockpit in both, exact same details at the head in robot mode, but all white.

[PerfectVision]

Weapon close to the head is a very bad idea in réality,same for the chest made of glass,i suppose it's their vision in véhicule form.