Cheetor Confirmed to be in Transformers Rise of the Beasts

Cool!

Can't wait to see the Maximals!

That's AWESOME News!!! I'm excited to see news outlets still using my old Cheetor Concept design! I'm sure the design will change for the film, but now I'm wondering if this old design will be close? A few months ago I got hit with a takedown notice from one of Hasbro's lawyers and Brian Chapman tried to call me several times too. I guess we'll see what happens.

Well, I am very excited that the VW bus is Wheeljack. I am stoked for that. And BATTLETRAP is the name of the towtruck?! I love it!

also excited to get confirmation of Cheetor being in the film. I am excited for the film, still excited and getting more excited as time goes

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Well, I am very excited that the VW bus is Wheeljack. I am stoked for that. And BATTLETRAP is the name of the towtruck?! I love it!

also excited to get confirmation of Cheetor being in the film. I am excited for the film, still excited and getting more excited as time goes

My favourite part aboit Wheeljack is thst we'll eventually get a toy of a Transformer with an interesting alt mide like that.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Well, I am very excited that the VW bus is Wheeljack. I am stoked for that. And BATTLETRAP is the name of the towtruck?! I love it!

also excited to get confirmation of Cheetor being in the film. I am excited for the film, still excited and getting more excited as time goes

My favourite part aboit Wheeljack is thst we'll eventually get a toy of a Transformer with an interesting alt mide like that.

Maybe we will get a retool of that Wheeljack mold as Origin Wheeljack?

https://deadline.com/2021/11/transforme ... 234871776/

ROTB is delayed to June 9, 2023.

We know from Deadline that Paramount has pushed back the release of Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts by a whole year. Instead of coming out in June 2022, it will instead be released in June 2023, the 9th to be exact.

What makes this more interesting than possibly any other film delay is that more than any live action franchise, the Transformers franchise always has a major toyline assigned to it, often taking up entire retailer areas, as can be seen below. And the Rise of the Beast toys are already ordered by retailers like Target, which have the toys already in their system, for a 2022 release date. You can see the whole list of toys here (they are in spoiler free code names). And as we had seen in previous toylines for films, like Godzilla vs Kong, Black Widow, ect, the fact that the toys were already in the pipeline meant they were released anyway. So knowing all this, is it possible that we still get that massive toyline in 2022 instead of in 2023 when the movie releases? We'll see, but this is bound to be interesting.



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Hopefully everything is okay behind the scenes,and they are just polishing the film.


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High chances that the toys will look nothing as they appear in the movie. Remember the Beetle Bee? That was just within the normal timeframe. The movie producers could turn Scourge into a Skids-N-Mudflap duo riding each other's shoulders for all we know.

TulioDude wrote:Hopefully everything is okay behind the scenes,and they are just polishing the film.

For over a year?! They are polishing Spider-man Far from Home right now and that film comes out in a month.

-Kanrabat- wrote:High chances that the toys will look nothing as they appear in the movie. Remember the Beetle Bee? That was just within the normal timeframe. The movie producers could turn Scourge into a Skids-N-Mudflap duo riding each other's shoulders for all we know.

Yeah, if they take that time to redo the bot modes to have a different aesthetic, then it will be like the toys from the first film. I am more curious about whether or not the toys will release next year or they will wait for 2023.

This is actually good news, toy wise, as it means that the priority will be on Generation molds, including molds that they might have ended up cancelling.
If they already have designs made for folks like Polar Claw and Gears (who we know were originally planned for Kingdom, but cancelled), they will try to use such toys to fill in the gap so as to fill space.
I would also assume more cases of repaints, alas.

I guess that would explain why there are no ROTB Studio Series figures leaked for this year.

TF7 delayed by a year???

Well that's just prime...


(I always wanted to say that )

Bounti76 wrote:I guess that would explain why there are no ROTB Studio Series figures leaked for this year.

SS ROTB toys won't be out until 2 or 3 years after the original ROTB toys like with Last Knight which had a toyline well before Last Knight Studio Series.

Triggerdick Megatron wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:I guess that would explain why there are no ROTB Studio Series figures leaked for this year.

SS ROTB toys won't be out until 2 or 3 years after the original ROTB toys like with Last Knight which had a toyline well before Last Knight Studio Series.

I don't think that's how they're doing it anymore. The Bumblebee Movie released toys in Studio Series, rather than having its own separate line. It doesn't make sense to have a separate line anymore, then release "better" toys a few years later.

Bounti76 wrote:

Triggerdick Megatron wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:I guess that would explain why there are no ROTB Studio Series figures leaked for this year.

SS ROTB toys won't be out until 2 or 3 years after the original ROTB toys like with Last Knight which had a toyline well before Last Knight Studio Series.

I don't think that's how they're doing it anymore. The Bumblebee Movie released toys in Studio Series, rather than having its own separate line. It doesn't make sense to have a separate line anymore, then release "better" toys a few years later.

Except the Bumblebee movie did in fact have a toy line, it just wasn't very large and shifted more towards younger audiences with the energon igniters skipping the regular deluxe/voyager figures that eventually went into Studio Series. That line was the only way to get TR Frenzy. That was the first movie release while Studio Series was in stores and was a bit different from past movies. But so far, it would also be the exception to what they have done in the past. It is anyone's guess how they will do things this time around

Triggerdick Megatron wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:I guess that would explain why there are no ROTB Studio Series figures leaked for this year.

SS ROTB toys won't be out until 2 or 3 years after the original ROTB toys like with Last Knight which had a toyline well before Last Knight Studio Series.

Last knight studio series doesnt exist

Maybe Hasbro's studied their supply chain problems enough to assume that RotB toys won't hit stores in significant numbers until about a year after their intended release?

this is most likely due to how poorly movies are doing in theaters right now. Opening night for Venom 2, first showing, 8 people in the theater. I almost didn't go myself because I was afraid to be packed in a crowded room with a bunch of people. My state has a lot of people that call the pandemic a hoax. So while the low turn out was good for me and let me have a nite out, it is decimating the box office take homes for big budget films. Given the state of Paramount, and their recent decision to abandon big blockbuster pictures, they are probably looking at how poorly movies are doing right now and freaking out.

Immortal Starscream wrote:this is most likely due to how poorly movies are doing in theaters right now. Opening night for Venom 2, first showing, 8 people in the theater. I almost didn't go myself because I was afraid to be packed in a crowded room with a bunch of people. My state has a lot of people that call the pandemic a hoax. So while the low turn out was good for me and let me have a nite out, it is decimating the box office take homes for big budget films. Given the state of Paramount, and their recent decision to abandon big blockbuster pictures, they are probably looking at how poorly movies are doing right now and freaking out.

Venom: Let There Be Carnage had a $90 million opening weekend, bigger than that of the first film. Not a great example. But I do agree that this is probably pandemic-related.

told you guys when the movie was announced they wont release on time. its paramount

Black Bumblebee wrote:This is actually good news, toy wise, as it means that the priority will be on Generation molds, including molds that they might have ended up cancelling.

I doubt it. This has more to do with supply chain issues than anything. It's actually really, really scary right now. Inflation is hitting record levels and will only increase as the supply chains tighten. This means less product, more demand, higher prices...a lot of economists are looking at the potential of superinflation now as a real possibility. This would be catastrophic globally. People have quit working and workplace participation is still at record lows despite rapidly inflating wages (another part of superinflation). There has already been an announcement of toy shortages for Christmas.

As for the pandemic causing this, not so much as government decisions to shut things down. Toys are nonessential and were shut down. Non-medicinal plastics were placed behind medical wares. Hasbro wants the toyline to coincide with the movie as research demonstrates higher sales of the toys, plus the toys also cause sales feedback into movies often, bumping ticket sales. It's a financial decision. In the end, what I HOPE it means is that when the toys are finally release, they will be extremely well-polished figures and as screen-accurate as current tech will allow them to be.

First-Aid wrote:In the end, what I HOPE it means is that when the toys are finally release, they will be extremely well-polished figures and as screen-accurate as current tech will allow them to be.

You won't get that. The ROTB toyline is a kids line like the BB movieline was with gimmicks.

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:In the end, what I HOPE it means is that when the toys are finally release, they will be extremely well-polished figures and as screen-accurate as current tech will allow them to be.

You won't get that. The ROTB toyline is a kids line like the BB movieline was with gimmicks.

Not so sure on that, but can't rule it out. At the very least, we will see Studio Series I'm assuming with the ROTB release. The reason I'm thinking we will see more polished figures is that, with the additional year they may have longer exposure to the digital models they will be using in the movie. With the other movies, I tend to think that they just didn't have enough time with the actual 3D visual models used in the LAMs...hence the Studio Series reworking through all the characters with considerably more screen accuracy. Hopefully, we will get Studio Series-quality (or ACTUAL Studio Series figures) right off the bat rather than after the fact.

First-Aid wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:In the end, what I HOPE it means is that when the toys are finally release, they will be extremely well-polished figures and as screen-accurate as current tech will allow them to be.

You won't get that. The ROTB toyline is a kids line like the BB movieline was with gimmicks.

Not so sure on that, but can't rule it out. At the very least, we will see Studio Series I'm assuming with the ROTB release. The reason I'm thinking we will see more polished figures is that, with the additional year they may have longer exposure to the digital models they will be using in the movie. With the other movies, I tend to think that they just didn't have enough time with the actual 3D visual models used in the LAMs...hence the Studio Series reworking through all the characters with considerably more screen accuracy. Hopefully, we will get Studio Series-quality (or ACTUAL Studio Series figures) right off the bat rather than after the fact.

We already knew that we were not going to get studio series toys to go with ROTB when it comes out since we knew the entirety of 2022's SS line.
We might get them later.
BUT if they take an extra year to rework bot modes and change designs, then the SS toys planned will now be innacurste since it takes 2 years from designing to consumption for transforners toys.

super bummed that it got pushed a whole year. That is a long time

Honestly I'm actually of the opinion that delays tend to be for the better until they get to development hell status.

The Bee film I believe had a smaller delay and that film turned out relatively fine, for this film I only see this as a net positive, too much crap in the last few years got rushed out and tended to be eh.

This has likely to do with current life events impacting the movie industry as a whole rather than any specific trouble with the films production.

Hahahaha, someone on TFW wrote this jokey prediction of what this film will entail and I'm pasting it here to see how close it gets to reality:

the maximals are going to be all spiritual and magical and shit and turn bumblebee in to a new hybrid vehicle/beast warrior the helps unite the two sides so they can work together and defeat giant stone robot.

Giant stone robot will be defending a skybeam coming out the top of some old inca temple. Scourge needs to the skybeam to summon Unicron or some shit.

Deadput wrote:Honestly I'm actually of the opinion that delays tend to be for the better until they get to development hell status.

The Bee film I believe had a smaller delay and that film turned out relatively fine, for this film I only see this as a net positive, too much crap in the last few years got rushed out and tended to be eh.

This has likely to do with current life events impacting the movie industry as a whole rather than any specific trouble with the films production.

"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad." - Shigeru Miyamoto.

I think the same applies to films, especially when they involve multiple VFX characters with (I hope) a significant presence.

william-james88 wrote:Hahahaha, someone on TFW wrote this jokey prediction of what this film will entail and I'm pasting it here to see how close it gets to reality:

the maximals are going to be all spiritual and magical and **** and turn bumblebee in to a new hybrid vehicle/beast warrior the helps unite the two sides so they can work together and defeat giant stone robot.

Giant stone robot will be defending a skybeam coming out the top of some old inca temple. Scourge needs to the skybeam to summon Unicron or some ****.

As someone who enjoys mixing usually opposite genres like science fiction and fantasy, and who unironically loves Beast Machines (as its own show, anyway; as a sequel it's terrible and way below BW), I actually think that's cool and would like to see it.

Minus maybe the Unicron part; try and bring/reference other great evils from the past instead of constantly relying on Devil Galactus-bot, will ya? I love the Unicron/Primus/Thirteen mythology, and even I'm getting annoyed over its repetetiveness.

Also cut it out with the skybeams.

The CGI in this movie will be done by a new special effects company instead of the Industrial Light & Magic right?I remember seeing in the Seibertron news but I can't find the headline.

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Ha, I ran into this news story I wrote just 3 years ago. Man, how times have changed

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ent/43075/

Today is a busy day! Following up on the first tease for the upcoming Nickelodeon cartoon Transformers: Earthspark, Paramount has thought fit to provide a small update on the big screen area of the Transformers fiction arena.

First up, Paramount writes the following when it comes to Transformers Rise of the Beasts :

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts will be released theatrically in 2023 and is the first of three new installments.

What this will mean for the story within those movies is unknown, but it is nice to know there appears to be a long term plan.

Second, Paramount cross-advertised the Nickelodeon cartoon, which is set to premier later in 2023.

Finally, Paramount has advised that a CG Animated Transformers film is still on the docket for 2024. While we get no further details on that movie, it is nice to know they are keeping us posted that it is coming.

You can check out the Tweet below where Paramount advertised this information, and let us know what you think in the comments section below.

I really really hope they finally commit to rebooting the live action movies. Audiences are well familiar with the concept, and it’s sorely needed

Glad to know they have confidence in Transformers.
I'm excited to know more!

Stormshot_Prime wrote:I really really hope they finally commit to rebooting the live action movies. Audiences are well familiar with the concept, and it’s sorely needed

It's as if they just can't let go of the memories of how much of a money-making goldmine each of the first four movies were.

They should have finished the Knight trilogy first.

Sabrblade wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:I really really hope they finally commit to rebooting the live action movies. Audiences are well familiar with the concept, and it’s sorely needed

It's as if they just can't let go of the memories of how much of a money-making goldmine each of the first four movies were.

Exactly. Plus, those films have a built in audience and people like familiarity. No point in alienating the audience.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:I really really hope they finally commit to rebooting the live action movies. Audiences are well familiar with the concept, and it’s sorely needed

It's as if they just can't let go of the memories of how much of a money-making goldmine each of the first four movies were.

Exactly. Plus, those films have a built in audience and people like familiarity. No point in alienating the audience.

That’s a good point. It’s just a shame that the continuity itself is pretty fucked by this point, but I guess as long as the movies bring in that money.

Rodimus Prime wrote:They should have finished the Knight trilogy first.

Question is, would anyone see it? Bumblebee apparently already suffered in the box office from backlash over Last Knight's reception; I doubt a direct sequel would garner much sympathy even if it was better made.

Stormshot_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:I really really hope they finally commit to rebooting the live action movies. Audiences are well familiar with the concept, and it’s sorely needed

It's as if they just can't let go of the memories of how much of a money-making goldmine each of the first four movies were.

Exactly. Plus, those films have a built in audience and people like familiarity. No point in alienating the audience.

That’s a good point. It’s just a shame that the continuity itself is pretty **** by this point, but I guess as long as the movies bring in that money.

Well, they'll have to at some point if they're making that Hasbro Cinematic Universe, otherwise it's the same "mesh together pre-established continuities and rush in new ones" mess from the Hasbro Comic Universe. Unless they already gave up on it.

Also, didn't TLK's performance prove that continuity isn't as successful anymore? At least not in their pre-Bumblebee approach?

There wasn't much continuity in the first place to be far, the fans cared for it more then the writers.

ZeroWolf wrote:There wasn't much continuity in the first place to be far, the fans cared for it more then the writers.

True that.

I'm all for a fresh reboot, Bee Movie being Episode 1 of the new series.

The only real continuity that there was between the movies came primarily from the expanded universe tie-in material (comics, novels, webshows, etc.) that filled in the blanks for just the first three movies. And then AOE came along and tossed all of that out the window.

Though, I feel like TLK was as poorly done as it was on purpose, at least on Bay's part. He'd been wanting out of these movies since before DOTM, but Hasbro kept sending dump trucks full of cash to dump on his front lawn. TLK felt like he was trying to make a movie so bad that it would finally convince Hasbro to let him go (at least as a director, since he was still a producer on Bumblebee). I mean, putting Nazi banners on Winston Churchill's estate, of all things? The offensiveness of that decision had to be intentional. No sane, respectable person would have done that if they weren't trying to get themselves axed.

Sabrblade wrote:The only real continuity that there was between the movies came primarily from the expanded universe tie-in material (comics, novels, webshows, etc.) that filled in the blanks for just the first three movies. And then AOE came along and tossed all of that out the window.

Though, I feel like TLK was as poorly done as it was on purpose, at least on Bay's part. He'd been wanting out of these movies since before DOTM, but Hasbro kept sending dump trucks full of cash to dump on his front lawn. TLK felt like he was trying to make a movie so bad that it would finally convince Hasbro to let him go (at least as a director, since he was still a producer on Bumblebee). I mean, putting Nazi banners on Winston Churchill's estate, of all things? The offensiveness of that decision had to be intentional. No sane, respectable person would have done that if they weren't trying to get themselves axed.

Haha lol, very sharp my friend.

Yes, Bay didn't care anymore with that last one. It's everywhere, I was extremely dissapointed and I watched Revenge of the Fallen.

But this whole, lets start a flippin trilogy. Get out of here, just make 1 good or at least decent movie. See how it's received and then a sequel.

Anyway, todays consumers vote with their wallets more and more. That's why nonsense like Star Wars etc. are slowely dying as a marketing strategy.

Good movies will be rewarded. Bad ones riding on nostalgia or pre established work by talented people will eventually crash and burn. It may take 3 movies to get there, but the people decide in the end. I refuse to watch the Last Jedi and it's on Netflix I think.

Just keep that Cybertron scene vibe from Bumblebee and just be good and creative.

Here's an alternative: the next trilogy sets up the backstory to the end of the Last Knight and the potential emergence of Unicron. Then, after that trilogy, they resume after with the Unicron storyline. It allows the expansion on the background of Unicron and the menace he presents.

and none of them will release on time. also if this flops they will cancel them all. but hey go ahead and say you plan to make 3 of them

noctorro wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:The only real continuity that there was between the movies came primarily from the expanded universe tie-in material (comics, novels, webshows, etc.) that filled in the blanks for just the first three movies. And then AOE came along and tossed all of that out the window.

Though, I feel like TLK was as poorly done as it was on purpose, at least on Bay's part. He'd been wanting out of these movies since before DOTM, but Hasbro kept sending dump trucks full of cash to dump on his front lawn. TLK felt like he was trying to make a movie so bad that it would finally convince Hasbro to let him go (at least as a director, since he was still a producer on Bumblebee). I mean, putting Nazi banners on Winston Churchill's estate, of all things? The offensiveness of that decision had to be intentional. No sane, respectable person would have done that if they weren't trying to get themselves axed.

Haha lol, very sharp my friend.

Yes, Bay didn't care anymore with that last one. It's everywhere, I was extremely dissapointed and I watched Revenge of the Fallen.

But this whole, lets start a flippin trilogy. Get out of here, just make 1 good or at least decent movie. See how it's received and then a sequel.

Anyway, todays consumers vote with their wallets more and more. That's why nonsense like Star Wars etc. are slowely dying as a marketing strategy.

Good movies will be rewarded. Bad ones riding on nostalgia or pre established work by talented people will eventually crash and burn. It may take 3 movies to get there, but the people decide in the end. I refuse to watch the Last Jedi and it's on Netflix I think.

Just keep that Cybertron scene vibe from Bumblebee and just be good and creative.

It probably didn't help the continuity that every film since Revenge of the Fallen had the same plot beat of "the Transformers actually were here in the past and changed human history", needing a new retcon for every new period they supposedly interfered with.

Though honestly, I blame the failure of TLK not (just) on Bay's usual hands off, "effects first story second" directing, but also on whatever exec decided to pick three different story pitches from the new writers room and cram them all into a single movie.

I also didn't feel as disappointed with TLK as I was with RoTF. Maybe it's because I heard so many people badmouth TLK and was expecting something worse, maybe it's because RoTF picked a part of the mythos I love (the Thirteen) and completely squandered it.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:There wasn't much continuity in the first place to be far, the fans cared for it more then the writers.

True that.

I'm all for a fresh reboot, Bee Movie being Episode 1 of the new series.

Bumblebee doesn't feel fresh enough. While I like the film as stand alone, it is also an origin movie for the Bayverse Bee many kids grew up with. Like how he lost his voice and learnt to express himself with the radio. And at the end he even transforms into a similar car that we see in the beginning of Transformers 1. Plus, he has the same Bayverse Bee face, it's all still too Bay for me to consider it a fresh start.

By the way, someone is posting what I am 100% sure is a purposely false rumour but oh man would this piss people off. Someone said, what if Scourge in ROTB is actually a future version of Bayverse Prime that came back to the past to ensure the autobots don't get whatever maguffin this film is about. Like that you can change the past (and future) but still preserve the Bay continuity, kinda like what Star Trek did.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:There wasn't much continuity in the first place to be far, the fans cared for it more then the writers.

True that.

I'm all for a fresh reboot, Bee Movie being Episode 1 of the new series.

Bumblebee doesn't feel fresh enough. While I like the film as stand alone, it is also an origin movie for the Bayverse Bee many kids grew up with. Like how he lost his voice and learnt to express himself with the radio. And at the end he even transforms into a similar car that we see in the beginning of Transformers 1. Plus, he has the same Bayverse Bee face, it's all still too Bay for me to consider it a fresh start.

By the way, someone is posting what I am 100% sure is a purposely false rumour but oh man would this piss people off. Someone said, what if Scourge in ROTB is actually a future version of Bayverse Prime that came back to the past to ensure the autobots don't get whatever maguffin this film is about. Like that you can change the past (and future) but still preserve the Bay continuity, kinda like what Star Trek did.

Kinda an interesting concept actually. If it turn out to be true, let's hope it will be better handled than the abysmal "Nemesis Prime" from TLK.

william-james88 wrote:By the way, someone is posting what I am 100% sure is a purposely false rumour but oh man would this piss people off. Someone said, what if Scourge in ROTB is actually a future version of Bayverse Prime that came back to the past to ensure the autobots don't get whatever maguffin this film is about. Like that you can change the past (and future) but still preserve the Bay continuity, kinda like what Star Trek did.

To me, that sounds like someone yanked that idea from the Nemesis Prime seen in Netflix WFCT cartoon: An evil Optimus from the future battling his heroic past self trying to change history.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:By the way, someone is posting what I am 100% sure is a purposely false rumour but oh man would this piss people off. Someone said, what if Scourge in ROTB is actually a future version of Bayverse Prime that came back to the past to ensure the autobots don't get whatever maguffin this film is about. Like that you can change the past (and future) but still preserve the Bay continuity, kinda like what Star Trek did.

To me, that sounds like someone yanked that idea from the Nemesis Prime seen in Netflix WFCT cartoon: An evil Optimus from the future battling his heroic past self trying to change history.

Oh for sure, it's just a joke to see people lose their shit.