Early Look at Legacy Reveals in Fanstream Event

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Canada is really late in having Legacy Wave 2...

Neither Canada nor the US has gotten the wave 2 deluxes in yet. And I thought Jhiaxus was already available at Geekstuff, no? (could be I am mixing up with the studio series voyagers, which they got super early)

Not at big box retailers, anyway. I've seen the entire deluxe wave and I have Wildrider and Tarantulas.

sol magnus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Canada is really late in having Legacy Wave 2...

Neither Canada nor the US has gotten the wave 2 deluxes in yet. And I thought Jhiaxus was already available at Geekstuff, no? (could be I am mixing up with the studio series voyagers, which they got super early)

Not at big box retailers, anyway. I've seen the entire deluxe wave and I have Wildrider and Tarantulas.

Yeah, wave 2 has been appearing at specialty shops for a little while now and it is readily available in certain regions of Europe and Asia.

So, either Hasbro managed to get the name "Pointblank" back after all, or that packaging is not final.

Dragon Megs: Looks good, isn't for me though. Beast Wars just doesn't really interest me except for a few exceptions like Waspinator and Rattrap.

Pointblank: Cool that they actually got the proper western name, though unimportant, and I'm still disappointed they're using the Rebirth/Marvel head instead of the one he usually has, and I'm still worried about the seeming lack of a bicep swivel. I really hope this upcoming stream will clear that up.

Skullgrin: He looks good for the most part, I just hope that there are tracks somewhere underneath that front part of the alt-mode and that either there's a regular head underneath the skull or someone makes one for him. Hell, maybe even give him a head based on TLK Megatron? I hated that design but I think the head could work for Skullgrin with it's big mandible/mask pieces.

Crankcase: I was hoping the hood of the alt-mode would have made his big shoulder cannons and the reason we didn't see it in that earlier photo of him was just that it was a detachable accesory, like the designers or executives were worried that non-fans would find it ugly, so they designed it so it could be detached and become a pair of giant hand held guns instead. Idk, sounds like something Hasbro would do, but apparantly they just completely ditched it unfortunately. Hopefully a third party company will fix that.

Deadend: Feet are ugly but they're not that big of a deal in my opinion, though it's unfortunate that the leg wheels end up on the outside of the shins instead of the inside. Makes me hope that maybe I can just swap the legs at the mushroom peg for the thigh swivel and I'll still be able to get the transformation to work, even if that does mean I'll lose the ankle tilt.

Inferno: Honestly looks to be a pretty disappointing release given that he lacks the fourth flap on his jetpack assembly thing. Doesn't matter too much to me though cause again I don't really care about Beast Wars.

I double checked to make sure...But it's interesting that Tarantulas and Inferno have the BW Predacon faction symbol on their packaging...But Leader TM2 Megatron has the Prime Predacon logo...

As stylized as they are making Prime characters...it would be kind of crazy of we got a Prime Predaking heavy retool from TM2 Megatron in addition to the obvious/ easy Cryotek repaint.

o.supreme wrote:As stylized as they are making Prime characters...it would be kind of crazy of we got a Prime Predaking heavy retool from TM2 Megatron in addition to the obvious/ easy Cryotek repaint.

Especially since Prime Predaking's transformation is nothing like TM2 Megatron's.

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:As stylized as they are making Prime characters...it would be kind of crazy of we got a Prime Predaking heavy retool from TM2 Megatron in addition to the obvious/ easy Cryotek repaint.

Especially since Prime Predaking's transformation is nothing like TM2 Megatron's.

Is Knockouts transformation anything like Jazz?

Crankcase bot mode looks good. Car mode not so much. If the front is modular so the bits detach for various arm weapons etc a but like the energon/mivue version then that would be cool. Otherwise the cars grill is a but ugly whichever way hasbro orientated it XD it still dint make the car look any better. Also not sure on the facing of the decepticon symbol.


Megatrons dragon mode looks like he went on a diet. Think I'd stick to original toy for him.

I think they all look decent to good for what they are. Right now, my only sure purchase is Inferno, and that's to complete my season 1 cast.

Megatron looks alright, though the wings look flimsy. I'll pass on this, the character doesn't have a strong enough connection for me to be repped in my collection. I wish we got Transmetal T-Rex Megatron instead. But I guess this figure can go with the PoTP Optimal Optimus.

Pointblank is a maybe, I don't care for the vehicle mode or the inferior targetmaster. But I do have Crosshairs and I'm trying to complete Fort Max's crew from the Steelhaven.

Crankcase, Skullgrin and Dead End are all a pass, though not because they're bad. I already have Generations Skullgrin, and though this is an improvement for the most part, he's not important enough for me to drop another $25 on the character. If I can score him for cheap, I will get him. Maybe I can swap the 2 heads. I already decided to pass on the Stunticons, and Crankcase is also just a background character to me.

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:As stylized as they are making Prime characters...it would be kind of crazy of we got a Prime Predaking heavy retool from TM2 Megatron in addition to the obvious/ easy Cryotek repaint.

Especially since Prime Predaking's transformation is nothing like TM2 Megatron's.

Is Knockouts transformation anything like Jazz?

He's closer to Jazz than Predaking is to Megatron, at least.

Tracytron54321 wrote:Crankcase: I was hoping the hood of the alt-mode would have made his big shoulder cannons and the reason we didn't see it in that earlier photo of him was just that it was a detachable accesory, like the designers or executives were worried that non-fans would find it ugly, so they designed it so it could be detached and become a pair of giant hand held guns instead. Idk, sounds like something Hasbro would do, but apparantly they just completely ditched it unfortunately. Hopefully a third party company will fix that.

Looks to me from these pics that he does have shoulder cannons, you can see them behind the windshield in the alt mode pic and in both of the back of the box renders, they just aren't deployed in the robot mode pic (where the back kibble seems to be oriented differently) and they're not necessarily big like, say, Skullgrin's back cannons.

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:As stylized as they are making Prime characters...it would be kind of crazy of we got a Prime Predaking heavy retool from TM2 Megatron in addition to the obvious/ easy Cryotek repaint.

Especially since Prime Predaking's transformation is nothing like TM2 Megatron's.

Is Knockouts transformation anything like Jazz?

Honestly? The only alt mode parts that end up in the "wrong" place on Legacy Knock Out's bot mode are the front tires and the doors, everything else is a match that just happens to be stylistically different. The only things that TM2 Megs and Prime Predaking share, meanwhile, are "is a dragon" and "has wings in both modes" (and even then, Predaking's wings compress down a good bit).

Agree to disagree. Knockout should have the front wheels hanging off his back and the doors on his forearms.

Tracytron54321 wrote:Agree to disagree. Knockout should have the front wheels hanging off his back and the doors on his forearms.

He did say those were put in the "wrong" places.

I remember when you wouldn't see the next wave until you're sick of the current one.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Tracytron54321 wrote:Crankcase: I was hoping the hood of the alt-mode would have made his big shoulder cannons and the reason we didn't see it in that earlier photo of him was just that it was a detachable accesory, like the designers or executives were worried that non-fans would find it ugly, so they designed it so it could be detached and become a pair of giant hand held guns instead. Idk, sounds like something Hasbro would do, but apparantly they just completely ditched it unfortunately. Hopefully a third party company will fix that.

Looks to me from these pics that he does have shoulder cannons, you can see them behind the windshield in the alt mode pic and in both of the back of the box renders, they just aren't deployed in the robot mode pic (where the back kibble seems to be oriented differently) and they're not necessarily big like, say, Skullgrin's back cannons.

Ah I see them now, though they're still definitely smaller than they should be, and I think it would look better if he had the giant chunk of kibble behind his head like the G1 toy and G1 art.

On the new images it seems inferno has some blue shade in his middle section. Was that there before?

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:As stylized as they are making Prime characters...it would be kind of crazy of we got a Prime Predaking heavy retool from TM2 Megatron in addition to the obvious/ easy Cryotek repaint.

Especially since Prime Predaking's transformation is nothing like TM2 Megatron's.

I think it could be doable if they replace his tail with his dragon head, rework Megs' dragon head and arm into clawed arms, and have the whole figure turn around backwards so his legs become the dragon's front legs and arms become the back legs. The tail can be formed from a large sword or something like a bunch of the original Predaking figures.

Emerje

I'm surprised by the inclusion of TM2 Megatron, but very pleasantly so. I'm definitely adding that to my "wish list."

Inferno, though, that's going to be a buy-on-sight for me. "FOR THE ROYALTY - !"

Definitely pre-ordering Megs and Dead End. Possibly Inferno and Pointblank , not sure yet. Inferno still looks too cute for a fire Ant.

I'll maybe pick Crankcase if I see him later on sale.

Skulgrin probably not unless he's very discounted.

Overcracker wrote:Inferno still looks too cute for a fire Ant.

It takes a real manly Con to be Best Girl.

Seeing Bombburst now, I really wish they'd made Skullgrin core class, too. With rumors of a voyager Bludgeon, we're going to have Pretenders in too many different sizes.

Well, now I just wish that we had gotten Skullgrin at Core and a different Decepticon at Deluxe with the reveal of Bomburst at Core. Hopefully we eventually get him at Core so we can have the Masterforce Decepticon Pretenders in decent scale with each other. Also, the mention of needing to be Voyagers or Leaders for the shells makes me wonder if Metalhawk from next year might actually have some shell like aspects...

I'll be getting Dead End, Starscream, Inferno and Megatron for sure, I just hope Dead End doesn't sell out too quickly like the other Stunticons. Bomb Burst is cute, I like him more than Iguanus or Skullgrin, but he's not something I really need.

Munkky wrote:I'll be getting Dead End, Starscream, Inferno and Megatron for sure, I just hope Dead End doesn't sell out too quickly like the other Stunticons. Bomb Burst is cute, I like him more than Iguanus or Skullgrin, but he's not something I really need.

I might be getting everything other than Megatron...I'll wait for the inevitable Cryotek.

I just wanted to share a quick comparison photo between Cybertron Override and the new Velocitron Speedia 500 version in robot mode.

Of course it would have been cool to have some form of a Cyber Key on the newer version. Perhaps adding the gold paint to the feet and a red paint to the wings on the weapon but otherwise not a bad representation.

SGM

Hate Walgreens exclusives. Minerva ordered and instock tomorrow at Indemand toys. No doubt it will become available at other places to order soon enough but if the inspace silver power ranger was anything to go by, grabbed it whilst I could.

Ended up preordering Pointblank, Crankcase and Dead End. I will get Skullgrin if I see him in store. The only other thing I preordered was Ironhide.

I'll eventually get both Voyagers, but I think I can wait for Amazon on those. Don't see any imminent danger of not being able to get those later. Transmetal Megatron has to wait for Cryotek.

I know it's an odd thing to be giddy over, but I am so glad to see ole' blender-butt there has his... well BLENDER BUTT! sadly its a little odd with all the "propellers being different sizes, but appreciated nonetheless. now the question will be if his flame thrower will be in a future accessory pack. he said they couldn't get it costed in, which means they at least designed it.

Ill be all over the whole wave of deluxes, pass on Megs.

Bomb-Burst looks great, I get that they did it by basically putting the whole alt mode on his back but I still find it cool that he basically changes color between modes.

Inferno is literally the only reveal of the day to have sold out so far on Pulse, this continues to bode well for non-G1 interest.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Bomb-Burst looks great, I get that they did it by basically putting the whole alt mode on his back but I still find it cool that he basically changes color between modes.

Inferno is literally the only reveal of the day to have sold out so far on Pulse, this continues to bode well for non-G1 interest.

I think it bodes well for Beast Wars, not necessarily "Non-G1". I didn't pre-order him. Probably should have. LOL

After taking a trip to 2 Walmart's I finally spotted the new figs to view. Unfortunately I had to weed out the lame figures to score Road Hauler and Clampdown but alas just Road Hauler. So he will be reprogramed to just like DK-2.

I had a stare down with Sourge and though I enjoy the Black Primes and the Nemesis Primes I got something just kept me from adding him to my fold so I passed up.

sol magnus wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:Bomb-Burst looks great, I get that they did it by basically putting the whole alt mode on his back but I still find it cool that he basically changes color between modes.

Inferno is literally the only reveal of the day to have sold out so far on Pulse, this continues to bode well for non-G1 interest.

I think it bodes well for Beast Wars, not necessarily "Non-G1". I didn't pre-order him. Probably should have. LOL

I mean, I said it that way because that's how Hasbro themselves described it in interviews in the past, when they talked about how some of the "non-G1" Legacy figures were outselling some of the G1 Legacy stuff and a bunch of people immediately tried to argue that simply couldn't be accurate.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:Bomb-Burst looks great, I get that they did it by basically putting the whole alt mode on his back but I still find it cool that he basically changes color between modes.

Inferno is literally the only reveal of the day to have sold out so far on Pulse, this continues to bode well for non-G1 interest.

I think it bodes well for Beast Wars, not necessarily "Non-G1". I didn't pre-order him. Probably should have. LOL

I mean, I said it that way because that's how Hasbro themselves described it in interviews in the past, when they talked about how some of the "non-G1" Legacy figures were outselling some of the G1 Legacy stuff and a bunch of people immediately tried to argue that simply couldn't be accurate.

I remember that. I think it's all selling but it's starting to slow down, even the ones that anecdotally were flying off the shelves (which were G1 from what I saw - Dragstrip and Kickback)are starting to sit. It's definitely time for Wave 2 to be hitting retail. As far as 'outselling G1' they just weren't specific enough for it to have any meaning (to me). If they meant Bulkhead, well...what your area's situation on him. We're swimming in him (as we should be considering he's 2 per case) where you barely see Blaster. At Walmart the extra Beast guys are all sitting there.

I'm sure they have some kind of data, but it's impossible to square it with my own eyes, even anecdotally.

Transmetal Megatron, now with Less (no) metal.

Not normally a fan of the vac metal process, but this megatron without it looks like a cosplayer to me.

sol magnus wrote:If they meant Bulkhead, well...what your area's situation on him. We're swimming in him (as we should be considering he's 2 per case) where you barely see Blaster. At Walmart the extra Beast guys are all sitting there.

In my area the only Legacy product that's sitting for prolonged periods of time are some of the Beastie Boys as you mentioned (although it also took a while for me to see any of them originally, they had empty pegs at my Walmart for them for a month or two) and a bunch of Galvatrons at my nearest Target. My Walmart is more swamped with Bumblebee Movie Soundwave than anything else, and my Target is pretty much just barren except for Buzzworthy/exclusives (but not the 4-pack, just individual figures) and the Galvatrons.

Love the way they did Skullgrin

Inferno has the spinning butt with the 4 flaps, love it! Still don't like how the insect legs are all over the place in bot mode though

Bombburst is cool for whoever wanted him
Not quite my cup of tea so I'll skip him
But im happy pretenders will be in different size classes so they can be their own diverse looking squad

SGMLordMirage wrote:I just wanted to share a quick comparison photo between Energon Override and the new Velocitron Speedia 500 version in robot mode.

Of course it would have been cool to have some form of a Cyber Key on the newer version. Perhaps adding the gold paint to the feet and a red paint to the wings on the weapon but otherwise not a bad representation.

SGM

Looks great. If only I could find one near me.

In regards to Cybertron Override, how tight are her legs. On mine I think the've tightened over the years. The rotation is so tight, it unclips the crotch before the leg actually moves.

Overcracker wrote:In regards to Cybertron Override, how tight are her legs. On mine I think the've tightened over the years. The rotation is so tight, it unclips the crotch before the leg actually moves.

She's just a prude, I guess. Or maybe it's just with you.

Glad to see the last of the figures fully revealed here.

Bomb Burst looks really fun, I am excited to add another pseudo-Pretender to the shelf. I am liking the robots right now, as a fan of the gimmick.

Megatron still looks iffy, but i will get him to fight PotP Primal.

I like Crankcase, still wish he had the IDW head, but he looks good. Excited for him specifically.

Wanted to share this pic, since Springer looks good here in this trio

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Glad to see the last of the figures fully revealed here.

Bomb Burst looks really fun, I am excited to add another pseudo-Pretender to the shelf. I am liking the robots right now, as a fan of the gimmick.

Megatron still looks iffy, but i will get him to fight PotP Primal.

I like Crankcase, still wish he had the IDW head, but he looks good. Excited for him specifically.

Wanted to share this pic, since Springer looks good here in this trio

I never got Siege Springer. I don't hate the toy deco, just looks like an odd duck. Is he good looking in person?

Side note: Is Potp Primal an ok figure? I considered buying. Do you think a new one is likely to come out (I know the evolution integration sucks, but without it?)

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:I never got Siege Springer. I don't hate the toy deco, just looks like an odd duck. Is he good looking in person?

Side note: Is Potp Primal an ok figure? I considered buying. Do you think a new one is likely to come out (I know the evolution integration sucks, but without it?)

I never got the retail Springer, only got this one because of the Marvel G1 comics colors with the Wrecker symbol. He is really nice in hand, I like him this way, glad I waited for this one.

PotP Primal is pretty good to me, I like it and have never disliked it. I don't think a new one will come in a while.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:I never got Siege Springer. I don't hate the toy deco, just looks like an odd duck. Is he good looking in person?

Side note: Is Potp Primal an ok figure? I considered buying. Do you think a new one is likely to come out (I know the evolution integration sucks, but without it?)

I never got the retail Springer, only got this one because of the Marvel G1 comics colors with the Wrecker symbol. He is really nice in hand, I like him this way, glad I waited for this one.

PotP Primal is pretty good to me, I like it and have never disliked it. I don't think a new one will come in a while.

Thanks for the opinion.
If I get Springer I'll have to get the new one. primal doesn't look that bad....

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:PotP Primal is pretty good to me, I like it and have never disliked it. I don't think a new one will come in a while.

I regret having passed on the Amazon's PotP Optimus Primal Throne of the Prime. Now it's nope'd priced on eBay.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:PotP Primal is pretty good to me, I like it and have never disliked it. I don't think a new one will come in a while.

I regret having passed on the Amazon's PotP Optimus Primal Throne of the Prime. Now it's nope'd priced on eBay.

Sorry. Guess you'll have to wait a few years for a new one...

What shadow striker may look like, digbash by ElecMan The Battery on Twitter. I'm hoping for a new mold though, shadow striker or crasher will likely be facing off against Elita one on my shelf.

I picked up both Legacy Wave 2 Voyager Class figures over the past two days. Jhiaxus is cool, but I was far more excited for the repack of "Siege" Soundwave. Now with a "clean" deco that ditches the battle damage paint apps, I had nice clean parts to work with to swap to my Netflix Soundwave. Why? The Netflix Soundwave lacked the red stripes on the wrists and battery accessories. Now I have my nearly perfect modern Soundwave. The added detail of the red pinstripes helps quite a bit.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:PotP Primal is pretty good to me, I like it and have never disliked it. I don't think a new one will come in a while.

I regret having passed on the Amazon's PotP Optimus Primal Throne of the Prime. Now it's nope'd priced on eBay.

Try Mandarake he was in pretty much every retail store (Bics, Kindertown etc) in Japan at the time so hopefully it might not have had the price hike there.

blackeyedprime wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:PotP Primal is pretty good to me, I like it and have never disliked it. I don't think a new one will come in a while.

I regret having passed on the Amazon's PotP Optimus Primal Throne of the Prime. Now it's nope'd priced on eBay.

Try Mandarake he was in pretty much every retail store (Bics, Kindertown etc) in Japan at the time so hopefully it might not have had the price hike there.

Unfortunately, Japan posts still "hates" Canada. So anything I buy from Japan MUST be shipped via DHL. Meaning that thing will cost at the very least 50$ to ship. Then add the fact that only Amazon.JP have that DHL super deal and only them charge taxes in advance.This means I get hit by heavy custom fees every times that I order from Mandarake or Buyee.

It suck big time that all these Japanese hot deals gets ruined by Japan Posts "emergency policies".