Gallery and Video of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Display from #NYCC 2018

Around 5:15ish you can see the soundwave lamppost mode its just painted to look like the scenery

I'm really not a fan of the weathering. Looks like I'll need to apply some alcohol when it's not applied on top of paint.

I like the Cons displayed much more than the bots, but I really hope that refractor is at least 2 to a case. Short packing him would be frustrating.

Why are they shooting swizzlesticks?

Now if Megatron came with a big, purple laser-effect for his fusion cannon that might make him a bit more worthwhile.

Thanks to Hasbro themselves, we have some clean stock photos of the Siege: War for Cybertron figures from New York Comic-Con 2018, which was covered here.

The big reveal here is Siege Deluxe Class Red Alert, seen utilizing Brunt's parts. This was quite unexpected, since he wasn't found anywhere today.

We also now have stock photos for the Siege toys using the tech-y background! These stock photos come from Hasbro's Facebook and Instagram.

We also have John Warden's (design manager for Transformers) design notes on these products:

-WFC VOYAGER MEGATRON was designed with Scale in mind. He is perfectly in scale with WFC VOYAGER OPTIMUS PRIME, and draws influence from his appearance in the 1984 Pilot Episode of the TRANSFORMERS animated series.
-His alt form is a newly designed CYBERTRONIAN Tank, but his robot form is based on his G1 appearance.
MEGATRON also includes a Sword, which is designed based on the rare 1985 Japanese Exclusive release of MEGATRON. The Sword and the classic arm-cannon can convert and merge together to form high-powered custom artillery
-WFC VOYAGER STARSCREAM is perfectly scaled to stand along other WFC characters, and is based on the original scale charts from the 1984 G1 animated series.
-STARSCREAM can convert to his classic G1 TETRAJET alt form, a version of this famous character which has never been seen before in toy form.
-STARSCREAM will feature his iconic NULL RAY cannons as accessory parts.
His Robot form is fully detailed and is based on the original model-sheet art used to create the iconic character from the 1984 animated series.
-WFC VOYAGER SOUNDWAVE is faithfully based on the original model-sheet art used to create the iconic character from the 1984 animated series.
-SOUNDWAVE features articulation and a posed-out hand that allows him to stand in his classic “EJECT” pose, with his finger on the eject button.
-MICROMASTER SPY PATROL LASERBEAK and RAVAGE (Sold Separately) can fit inside his cassette bay.
SOUNDWAVE’s alt form is a newly designed CYBERTRON Patrol Hovercraft, with a docking bay for the Cassette Bots in the back.
-Fans of the 1984 pilot episode will be pleased to know that SOUNDWAVE can be converted into a third “Easter egg” mode… a “CYBERTRONIAN Sensor Lamp”!
-WFC DELUXE REFRAKTOR is the perfect soldier to build your DECEPTICON army! This is the most screen-accurate version of this classic trooper ever created for TRANSFORMERS fans.
-REFRAKTOR comes with three accessory parts, a blaster, a battlefield shield, and a chest module. The chest module allows fans to customize their REFRAKTORS to create various versions and recreate their appearance in the G1 cartoon series.
-REFRAKTOR can convert into a CYBERTRONIAN Artillery Hovercraft vehicle, and die-hard fans can combine THREE of the same REFRAKTORS (Sold Separately) to create his classic Camera Mode, complete with Zoom Lens and Tripod!

While I am happy that Aimless is a thing, I'm quite sad he's not only a slight retool of Blowpipe but also the reveal that Blowpipe himself is just a near straight-up redeco of Firedrive. It seems all ranged Battlemasters share the same engineering.

Lame!

Anyone else notice from the display photos that Megatron and possibly Skytread/Flywheels appear to be the finished plastic instead of hand painted? Megs for certain, couldn't get a really good view of Flywheels, but he doesn't seem to have obvious hand painting like the others.

Looks like I'll finally be able to save money on this line. Think I'm only in for a few of the battle masters and deluxes, and of course Omega. As of now I have no interest in any of the announced voyagers and leaders.

So question, because I think this probably was overshadowed in people's thoughts by the actual toy reveals: Did both of the posters get checked for secret writing, or just the Megatron one because we could see some of it in the pictures?

You think we'll get a new Battletrap that goes with the style of Flywheels?

They are not showing us if voyager Shockwave can turn into anything. Pretty sure thats cause he turns into a space gun. There is clearly a handle right where it should be on that alt mode.

Yes! Brunt! i guess Full-Tilt has finally have a partner

I wonder what mold will Fasttrack be?

Woohoo! Red Alert has his red helmet! I'm totally all in now on trading in my Henkei Swipe and Alert for Siege Sideswipe and Red Alert. I'll also probably use my extra Unite Warriors Streaker as Sunstreaker in my Classics display.

I'm not too upset about Soundwave's alt mode. It at least looks alien. I do like that it can form the lamp post from "More than Meets the Eye: Part 1" as well. The only thing that upsets me is that he's got YELLOW optics. Why not red, Hasbro!? They're trying to be as G1 cartoon accurate with other characters' colors, but they drop the ball on Soundwave's eyes!

Ravage looks a bit chunky, though, and I don't like that Laserbeak's head is just a featureless canopy. I'm hoping Reprolabels will some up with a sticker to put over the yellow "visor" to give Laserbeak proper eyes, and maybe a little something to make his beak yellow as well. I'm hoping we get at lest a Rumble and Frenzy pack along with Buzzsaw and Ratbat, though it makes me wonder if they will cut into more traditional Micromaster teams for the Decepticons.

Megatron looks fantastic. Bought on sight! I hope the sword can stow on his back in robot mode.

Starscream looks great too. Finally, a proper "Tetrajet" form for him. More importantly, though, it's a decent VOYAGER sized robot mode seeker mold, at long last! With any luck, even if Skywarp isn't released at regular retail like Thundercracker almost certainly will, he'll see distribution as an exclusive or as part of a box set down the line.

Shockwave looks perfect. It's a shame he'll be expensive, as he's being put into the Leader class with a whole bunch of...spare arms and legs? At least the extra parts are optional and we can have a perfectly normal Voyager sized Shockwave displayed and put the extra stuff in storage. It's nice to finally have a proper Classics Shockwave at last. So long, Cyberbattalion Shockwave from Walgreens!

Reflector was an AWESOME surprise! He looks perfect! I will not rest until I have bought three of him. I like the extra touch that his robot mode can be modified to include or exclude the camera lens on his abdomen. (With that kind of attention to cartoon detail, you'd think they'd get Soundwave's eyes right, but no! *grumble, grumble, grumble*). Also, to anyone who is confused or upset that Reflector is Deluxe sized, he IS actually in scale this way. Going back to the Sunbow style guides and scale charts, Reflector is supposed to be just about as tall as one of the Autobot cars like Wheeljack or Hound.

Brunt is a nice not so surprising surprise, since I felt he'd be a natural pick for a Decepticon Deluxe "Weaponizer," and we know of Cog and likely Sixgun already for the Autobots.

Flywheels looks great. He's a perfect update of his G1 self. It's a shame he doesn't have two smaller robot modes for each individual vehicle mode, like Battletrap from Power of the Primes, but Flywheels and Battletrap will still look great together on display, and you can even mix and match their tops and bottoms, allegedly! That's still pretty good!

Whisper and Storm Cloud look great. I'll be getting ALL of the Micromasters. There's no reason not to.

As for the Decepticon "Weaponmasters," they're okay. I'll be getting all of the Weaponmasters too, if only for the laser fire and explosion effects they come with. The Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Targetmasters are far superior and will remain the definitive "Classics" versions on my Classics display shelves.

Nice surprise that they showed off the Siege decepticons.

Battle Masters: Great.
Micromasters: Great.
Skytread: Good. Triple changer or duocon? I hope triple changer.
Refraktor: Meh...
Brunt: Great.
Megatron: Fantastic!
Soundwave: Great.
Shockwave: Great.
Starscream: Robot mode is great but only from the front. Robot back and alt mode are just awful... (Am I the only one who thinks this?)
Red Alert: Good.
Confirmation of Titan class Omega Supreme: Good. I hope the tank also has a space base and rocket and it's not TOO much of a partsformer.

(There are some things money can't buy, for everything else... Never mind...)

...anyone have any idea why TFWiki claims that we're getting a Soundblaster repaint from the just-revealed Soundwave, that Red Alert is part of Wave 2, and that Countdown comes with Omega Supreme? Was all that confirmed at the panel? I know people were speculating about Omega turning into Countdown's rocket base, but I didn't think that was confirmed anywhere, and I didn't think we got anything official regarding Red Alert outside of that Brunt picture. I guess a case could be made that Red Alert has to be in Wave 2 for him to be in Brunt's advertising, but the rest of that just seems like wild claims unless I've missed something.

Nemesis Primal wrote:...anyone have any idea why TFWiki claims that we're getting a Soundblaster repaint from the just-revealed Soundwave, that Red Alert is part of Wave 2, and that Countdown comes with Omega Supreme? Was all that confirmed at the panel? I know people were speculating about Omega turning into Countdown's rocket base, but I didn't think that was confirmed anywhere, and I didn't think we got anything official regarding Red Alert outside of that Brunt picture. I guess a case could be made that Red Alert has to be in Wave 2 for him to be in Brunt's advertising, but the rest of that just seems like wild claims unless I've missed something.

Everything that we know was said on the panel but also in conversations with the various press people present. For Micro Master Countdown specifically, we have confirmation that it will fit in the tank that forms the head and upper chest of Omega Supreme from the panel stream. See here: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... uzz/42179/
(video mark 19.28)


As for Soundblaster, an image has been making the rounds claiming to be the redeco.


I just think it's bad lighting on Soundwave, given it's the exact same spot:




Red Alert seems speculation, unless it's from a private conversation (as I mentioned above). Hope this helps!

Is it me, or One of Shockwave's mode look like this?

frikkin AWESOME!!!!!!!
evry single fig
has me cravin
that sweet,
PLASTIC CRACK!!!

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Ravage looks a bit chunky, though, and I don't like that Laserbeak's head is just a featureless canopy. I'm hoping Reprolabels will some up with a sticker to put over the yellow "visor" to give Laserbeak proper eyes, and maybe a little something to make his beak yellow as well. I'm hoping we get at lest a Rumble and Frenzy pack along with Buzzsaw and Ratbat, though it makes me wonder if they will cut into more traditional Micromaster teams for the Decepticons.

Its probably Laserbeak's design on War For Cybertron/Fall Of Cybertron

Albatross250 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Ravage looks a bit chunky, though, and I don't like that Laserbeak's head is just a featureless canopy. I'm hoping Reprolabels will some up with a sticker to put over the yellow "visor" to give Laserbeak proper eyes, and maybe a little something to make his beak yellow as well. I'm hoping we get at lest a Rumble and Frenzy pack along with Buzzsaw and Ratbat, though it makes me wonder if they will cut into more traditional Micromaster teams for the Decepticons.

Its probably Laserbeak's design on War For Cybertron/Fall Of Cybertron

More likely, both this toy and that design are based on the same thing: Laserbeak's pre-Earth design from G1:

I think I'm going to die in my upcoming vacation.

Transformers Siege is... it's too much.

It's too perfect, we get a G1 Optimus with G1 transformation, we get a pure G1 Megatron, we get a Pure G1 Starscream Cybertron jetmode, earth robot mode. We get a Pure Soundwave, pure Shockwave (Cyber Batallion was great enough), we get Flywheels, we get bloody Reflector...

I cannot take this, I was born in 86 (year of Devastator) so G1 from the start.
This is............ and I even really like the new Cyberverse... and Bumblebee the movie looks so freaking what a Transformers movie is suppose to be.


Fffffffffffffff. and just got back into Masters of the Universe Classics and Masters of the Universe 200X......

I need to win the lottery and have additional years on my life and, not have to work and have 12 days a week...

Offtopic and tiny old-man rant.

New fans (like under 20) don't know!

You don't know the days we had Car Robots with Megatron not looking like anything. G2 with a wacky Megatron tank mode. Car Robots Optimus with his fake chest, Prowl not looking like Prowl whatsoever. Transformers Armada, Megatron looking like generic tank dude, Optimus without his chest and crap articulation. Armada Red Alert being, I don't know what. Ultra Magnus being red and having no personality. Thundercracker being Starscream reformatted (It was a great Starscream for the time). Energon... Energon Shockwave anybody? Fattimus Prime anybody? No Soundwave. Then Transformers Animated, completely different style. Classics 1.0 with the Gundam Optimus, Weird Megatron, no Soundwave, no Shockwave. Okay Seekers.

Since Combiner Wars it's been going up in quality and G1 designs soo much.

Anyway, I'm happy for all of this. House is too small.

noctorro wrote:Offtopic and tiny old-man rant.

New fans (like under 20) don't know!

You don't know the days we had Car Robots with Megatron not looking like anything. G2 with a wacky Megatron tank mode. Car Robots Optimus with his fake chest, Prowl not looking like Prowl whatsoever. Transformers Armada, Megatron looking like generic tank dude, Optimus without his chest and crap articulation. Armada Red Alert being, I don't know what. Ultra Magnus being red and having no personality. Thundercracker being Starscream reformatted (It was a great Starscream for the time). Energon... Energon Shockwave anybody? Fattimus Prime anybody? No Soundwave. Then Transformers Animated, completely different style. Classics 1.0 with the Gundam Optimus, Weird Megatron, no Soundwave, no Shockwave. Okay Seekers.

Since Combiner Wars it's been going up in quality and G1 designs soo much.

Anyway, I'm happy for all of this. House is too small.

As a fan who turned 20 about a week ago, I can confidently say I do know. I remember aaaaaalll of those things. I grew up with them, except G2.

Of course, I'm still incredibly excited for this new line, same as everyone; even as a kid who grew up with the Unicron Trilogy, I somehow managed to also grow up with G1 through a combination of the home releases of Season 1 and the Movie and looking at the toys online. I'm just saying, don't assume we "don't know".

Huh. They seem to be taking more liberties with these than they did with the figures in previous reveals (other than possibly Cog). I like that they're getting creative-ish with some of them.

I'd like to see Shockwave's non-combined vehicle mode before I judge him, but I love that they gave him a Brute Mode. Never thought I'd see them do that again post-Energon

Soundwave is a similar case to Shockwave; my opinion of him will be heavily influenced by how much his lamp mode amuses me. Laserbeak and Ravage are competently-done but a bit generic, though I could say that about a lot of retro-G1 stuff.

Megatron looks like he's based on his evergreen/Cyberverse design, which isn't really surprising as that was a pretty generic G1-style Megatron to begin with.

I look at Refraktor and I see a lot of Botcon 2016 Reflectors winding up on ebay in the next year or so. Shame his non-combined alt-mode is such a throwaway, but I can understand them not wanting it to interfere with the figure's true purpose.

Airstrike team is a nice homage to the Mini-Con weapon combiners. If the other Micromaster teams also do extra stuff, they could actually be pretty neat.

Kinda disappointed that Skytread didn't get separate robot modes like they gave Battletrap. It would have added a bit more "new" to the figure and possibly increased its play value.

Tetrajets are kinda meh for me, we already got "close enough" versions in Cybertron and Titanium (in three different sizes for the former, and one of the actually decent molds from the latter).

Brunt reminds me of a Vehicon (The Beast Machines kind, not the Prime kind), but in a good way. Vehicle mode looks to be pretty much an upsized version of the G1 toy, but since the G1 toy was a pretty unique-looking tank I'm glad they did so rather than pulling a Universe Galvatron on it. Robot mode is a work of art, suitably brutish and very aesthetically distinct from the other Siege figures. That it splits into weapons/armor on top of this is almost too much. Pardon me for gushing, I'm just floored by this thing. My only complaint is that they picked an Autobot to wear him in stock pics, and that's really more a complaint about Red Alert than Brunt. If I only get one Siege figure, it'll be this guy.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

noctorro wrote:Offtopic and tiny old-man rant.

New fans (like under 20) don't know!

You don't know the days we had Car Robots with Megatron not looking like anything. G2 with a wacky Megatron tank mode. Car Robots Optimus with his fake chest, Prowl not looking like Prowl whatsoever. Transformers Armada, Megatron looking like generic tank dude, Optimus without his chest and crap articulation. Armada Red Alert being, I don't know what. Ultra Magnus being red and having no personality. Thundercracker being Starscream reformatted (It was a great Starscream for the time). Energon... Energon Shockwave anybody? Fattimus Prime anybody? No Soundwave. Then Transformers Animated, completely different style. Classics 1.0 with the Gundam Optimus, Weird Megatron, no Soundwave, no Shockwave. Okay Seekers.

Since Combiner Wars it's been going up in quality and G1 designs soo much.

Anyway, I'm happy for all of this. House is too small.

As a fan who turned 20 about a week ago, I can confidently say I do know. I remember aaaaaalll of those things. I grew up with them, except G2.

Of course, I'm still incredibly excited for this new line, same as everyone; even as a kid who grew up with the Unicron Trilogy, I somehow managed to also grow up with G1 through a combination of the home releases of Season 1 and the Movie and looking at the toys online. I'm just saying, don't assume we "don't know".

Ahaa, sorry for that, you are a man of culture

It was more aimed toward people who I think never had Armada Optimus and are fan of G1. Maybe I'm a bit to sharp concerning his windshield needs to be his torso. And Starscream's cockpit needs to be on his chest in robot mode. And most of the OG's need to have a figure in the line (if they're going for a lot of G1 inspired stuff)

Great to hear you're excited!

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Ravage looks a bit chunky, though, and I don't like that Laserbeak's head is just a featureless canopy. I'm hoping Reprolabels will some up with a sticker to put over the yellow "visor" to give Laserbeak proper eyes, and maybe a little something to make his beak yellow as well. I'm hoping we get at lest a Rumble and Frenzy pack along with Buzzsaw and Ratbat, though it makes me wonder if they will cut into more traditional Micromaster teams for the Decepticons.

Its probably Laserbeak's design on War For Cybertron/Fall Of Cybertron

More likely, both this toy and that design are based on the same thing: Laserbeak's pre-Earth design from G1:

Loving it.

Gods, that Flywheels is bloody magical! The whole line is but Flywheels (like Ruckus) is one of those latter day G1 toys I adored.

it look like hasbro are finally learning that Megatron has to look like megatron, soundwave has to look like soundewave etc..

no more wacking a classic name on a totally different looking character.

Have to wait for Horrorcons in this line. i just wish and made them a proper figure

Man these are great, I can't wait to get four-armed super shockwave, screw g1 this is what I live for from transformers

Brunt is great, I seriously love the weaponizer sub-class, its the best, a great gimmick.

Love soundwaves minions - ravage looking especially nice - (Iwonder if they combine like the rest of the size class), need to see soundwave in hand to see the damage of the gimmick in him, looks a little box-chested. bet he can be turned into a boombox as an (official) fan mode

Starscream is looking a little cubist, and his jet mode is kind of a joke, megs looks a bit off, not sure if it's the face or all the blockiness, not quite sure; might get him once I see him in hand though

Disappointed by reflector, can't spend that kind of money on him, shame, cuz the camera mode looks really nice, maybe with a hts sale

similarly disappointed by flywheels not having individual bot modes, really have no interest in him now

Albatross250 wrote:Have to wait for Horrorcons in this line. i just wish and made them a proper figure

They'll come next year with Scorponok, Runamuck and Runabout

hoping the upc/dpci's for these show up soon, considering potp figures made it to stores in november of last year, wave 1 looks tremendous, and I need that magnus and shockwave in my life

Coptur wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:Have to wait for Horrorcons in this line. i just wish and made them a proper figure

They'll come next year with Scorponok, Runamuck and Runabout

The Titan we need


Im okay with Omega Supreme unless he had an Ark Mode for his 3rd mode

Just noticed the small cockpit on soundwave, he's using parts from sixshot

I think I love the Decepticons more than the Autobots. That Megatron! That Soundwave!! That Starscream! That Shockwave!!! I loved them all! Siege looks VERY promising at this point. Nothing has disappointed me yet. I just have to wait for in hand images and that's it. I will probably only get Megatron, Soundwave and his cassettes, and Shockwave though. My spending budget is VERY limited. Love what you're doing !

I'm eager to find out if Brunts weaponizer mode can weaponize another Brunt's robot mode.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Guys, I figured it out.

Shockwave's alt mode is the Nemesis!

So, a bit off topic, but... playing Assassin's Creed Odyssey, and got the hero's ship last night. I immediately got excited, because the ship is The Adrestia.

For those not up on their Greek mythology, the Greek Goddess Adrestia has two other names: Rhamnousia and NEMESIS.

So the player's warship in AC Odyssey is The Nemesis. I'm painting it purple as soon as I get the option.

Caelus wrote:I'm eager to find out if Brunts weaponizer mode can weaponize another Brunt's robot mode.

It just uses 5mm peg holes, so yes, you can use brunt to weaponize brunt

To the GEEWUN fanboy in this thread: I'm in the opposite team. Part of me miss the sheer creativity and attempt at doing something new and unique with some of these characters. Now that '80 nostalgia and fandom pandering is in full-swing all we will ever see are the same gray tank Megatrons over and over again. While I understand characters need to be somewhat recognizable I wish we'd see a bit more variety in at least alt modes once in a while.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Caelus wrote:I'm eager to find out if Brunts weaponizer mode can weaponize another Brunt's robot mode.

It just uses 5mm peg holes, so yes, you can use brunt to weaponize brunt

"Yo dawg, I heard you like Brunt so we put a Brunt on your Brunt so you can Weaponize Brunt with Brunt"

Lets see. Cog, Brunt.
i hope they make Fasttrack next

Oof. No combining flyby and steelwheels. But I was right about how they engineered him at least.

Skritz wrote:To the GEEWUN fanboy in this thread: I'm in the opposite team. Part of me miss the sheer creativity and attempt at doing something new and unique with some of these characters. Now that '80 nostalgia and fandom pandering is in full-swing all we will ever see are the same gray tank Megatrons over and over again. While I understand characters need to be somewhat recognizable I wish we'd see a bit more variety in at least alt modes once in a while.

As someone who grew up with the 86 movie, G1 season 2/3, RID, and Armada, and then got into the fandom when the 07 movie came out, I missed all of universe and classics. Seeing all these G1 characters get brand new toys is great, and I have a lot of spaces in my collection being filled. I, however, also really wish for an Armada reboot. I loved the designs and characters, as terrible as the animation errors and writing was. (I was a kid, I didn't know better! )

Finding my old beat up super optimus prime, megatron, and other beloved Armada toys, the cancelled TR set, and the teases of the CW megatron and Generations Starscream doesn't make waiting for Armada Redux easy.

I literally love everything it’s all so good. The only thing I’m not hundred present pleased with is Shockwave’s Armour mode it’s kind of a mess.

Autobot N wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Caelus wrote:I'm eager to find out if Brunts weaponizer mode can weaponize another Brunt's robot mode.

It just uses 5mm peg holes, so yes, you can use brunt to weaponize brunt

"Yo dawg, I heard you like Brunt so we put a Brunt on your Brunt so you can Weaponize Brunt with Brunt"

I hope someone gets many and goes for the maximum ridiculousness level of layers of Brunt parts on a Brunt. Or Cog parts on a Cog.

Boy did I choose the wrong time to go away for a family holiday...

Okay, loving some of the reveals here and the Decepticon air patrol and their combined form, looks a lot better than the Autobot race patrol combined

Not keen on the G1ness but I think I covered all that last time with the reveals. Shockwave though...well its different. I'll give you that.

Reflector, I see shots of the robot mode but the shutter part in the middle, is that removable? I see pictures of the robot mode without them...

Skytread, why haven't we seen pictures of the vehicles individual robot modes? Is it because its being sold as a deluxe?

Lastly, with regards to the earlier conversation about omega supreme being destroyed in the new posters, who's to say it was Megatron who blew him up? It might have been buzz saw? Or he may have blown him self up, like in the keys to vector sigma episode...

ZeroWolf wrote:Reflector, I see shots of the robot mode but the shutter part in the middle, is that removable? I see pictures of the robot mode without them...

Yes.

ZeroWolf wrote:Skytread, why haven't we seen pictures of the vehicles individual robot modes? Is it because its being sold as a deluxe?

No, it is because these individual robot modes don't exist, sadly. Not a deal breaker, because he still looks awesome.

At least we have a proper Flywheels. the TR version of him is just a miniature version


I love tanks and Jets.

How nice! They show Starscream & Thundercracker but leave out my favorite of the 3, Skywarp.

Has anyone else noticed Starscream may have an ab crunch joint as well as a waist swivel? I looked closely at the stock photos and I noticed how Starscream is bent forward quite a bit at that area, so thatvwould be nice if it's a functional joint. Nothing but speculation though

i feel like brunt should work on megatron t sorta make a galvatron