Possible First Look at War for Cybertron: Kingdom Blackarachnia, Cheetor and Warpath

Cheetor looks really good, do not know why people are saying it doesn't look great, BA looks amazing too, rattrap looks really good, but I detest tat style of shoulder joint, so, I'll be skipping him

they look good, and i look forward to getting them, but why does Cheetor have his Transmetal weapon? Shouldn't he have his gutgun?

If core figures are replacing the battlemasters then that is a lot of poseability for a small figure approximately 70% of a deluxe figure

Kind feel like a sucker for buying the MP Blackarachnia now...This one look great. Cheetor too

These look really promising. Really excited to see what Warpath does since the generations figure is still one of my all time favorite deluxes.

Also, you staff might want to keep an eye on this thread. Parts of 4chan and tfw have been exploding since these were leaked.

Mindmaster wrote:

Rogue-Primal wrote:Rattrap looks great but are the core figures a new size class 9r are they still deluxes and does anyone know what pricepoint he's going to be?

They’re essentially the new Legends class, and will be replacing the Micromasters in Kingdom at the $10.

Additionally looks like the $5-$6 price Point *Masters* are going away entirely, which is a shame. Although I'm not surprised, Walmart stopped carrying them altogether, and Pulse doesn't have them on their website either (except for very minor PotP stock leftover from the old site). Maybe Hasbro just saw them as not enough profit for the investment?

I guess the Fossilizers at both Core(Legends) and Deluxe class will have to hold me over. Hopefully they have some cool play patterns, because right now I don't plan on really picking up any individual character from this line except maybe Slammer if he is a Weaponizer. Also Hopefully the CC & Titan once they are revealed.

Cheetor looks pretty good, I like that look!

-WonkoTheSane- wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:apparently the pics aren't really floating around, only a few people have seen them and they aren't showing them to anyone.

I came to that conclusion as well after scouring my usual sources.
A shame too, I really wanted to see that Warpath.
At this rate though, It's probably only a matter of time until someone leaks them, So there's that.

Haha, you got what you wanted 2 posts down

Cheetors shoulders stick out a bit too much giving him a T esque frame, not sure on his hands being blocky at the sides and his lower leg shape -plus it's a shame he no longer has his brain gun. I might end up preffering Universe Cheetor.

If Blackarachnia is a deluxe, hope they change color or paint the spider legs.

Say did any other pictures of that Cyclonus turn up? Or was it just the vehicle mode?

Regarding these new leaks, I'm on board with everything here. BA looks fantastic as does Cheetor. Warpath is looking good as well, just need to see him a bit closer.

Ultra Mad wrote:Kind feel like a sucker for buying the MP Blackarachnia now...This one look great. Cheetor too

It's the same comparison as people saying they,d be suckers for buying the latest MP Prime when the Siege and Earthrise figures exist. I bought Blackarachnia and I don't mind that this one exists. As someone pointed out above, this one is severely lacking in paint apps, and some colours are all wrong. That would of course be terrible on an MP, but on a toy of this budget, it's all good. Different toys for different collections.

Terrsolpix wrote:These look really promising. Really excited to see what Warpath does since the generations figure is still one of my all time favorite deluxes.

Also, you staff might want to keep an eye on this thread. Parts of 4chan and tfw have been exploding since these were leaked.

Do you mean you'll be posting here if you see more new stuff?

ZeroWolf wrote:Say did any other pictures of that Cyclonus turn up? Or was it just the vehicle mode?

We got one shot each of his bot mode and alt mode when he initially leaked, but that was it. Also, looking back at that, I expect his coloration will be at least slightly different on the actual release version, since I doubt he'll have a purple face (although I think everyone is in agreement on that) and the Thrust in that leak with him had the clear cockpit that got changed to orange on the other Coneheads (and I can't imagine Thrust isn't going to match, so they must both be early samples).

The longer I look at Cheetor, the more he makes me wonder how Tigatron's gonna look. Their only bot mode differences in the show were their heads and the angle of their cat face chest, but their respective cat modes had different proportions, so I'm curious to see how different that Voyager will turn out, since surely those differening proportions will affect his bot mode appearance at least slightly. Also, since Tigatron never had the Transmetal tail axe (not in the show, anyway), he'll have to come with at least one of his guns, right?

Looking forward to seeing more beast war toys

Nemesis Primal wrote:The longer I look at Cheetor, the more he makes me wonder how Tigatron's gonna look. Their only bot mode differences in the show were their heads and the angle of their cat face chest, but their respective cat modes had different proportions, so I'm curious to see how different that Voyager will turn out, since surely those differening proportions will affect his bot mode appearance at least slightly. Also, since Tigatron never had the Transmetal tail axe (not in the show, anyway), he'll have to come with at least one of his guns, right?

Well, since Tigatron's going to be Voyager which means a new mold is required, I'd expect that he'll come with the tail and gut blasters rather than the tail club/scythe/axe

I haven't been keeping up with SS announcements since I'm not into them, but so far is there any of the same character planned for the 86 Studio Series & Kingdom? If so I just think that's poor planning IMHO.

o.supreme wrote:I haven't been keeping up with SS announcements since I'm not into them, but so far is there any of the same character planned for the 86 Studio Series & Kingdom? If so I just think that's poor planning IMHO.

No, SS sounds like it will just be the overflow for the slots in Kingdom going to beasts that would otherwise go to G1 guys. No repeats

Whoops, double post

william-james88 wrote:Do you mean you'll be posting here if you see more new stuff?

Not OP, but from the sounds of things there's been a bit of a fallout on TFW and 4Chan. Long story short (from my understanding) a few people had these images and were keeping them from the public while detailing what was in the pictures to protect the source and then someone with access to them got mad and posted on 4Chan with the images.

I haven't been following it too closely, this is just what I've gathered scanning through the thread. I think they're just warning things could go awry here regarding the images

Zephyrr wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Do you mean you'll be posting here if you see more new stuff?

Not OP, but from the sounds of things there's been a bit of a fallout on TFW and 4Chan. Long story short (from my understanding) a few people had these images and were keeping them from the public while detailing what was in the pictures to protect the source and then someone with access to them got mad and posted on 4Chan with the images.

I haven't been following it too closely, this is just what I've gathered scanning through the thread. I think they're just warning things could go awry here regarding the images

What happens on other sites, stays on other sites.

Burn wrote:What happens on other sites, stays on other sites.

Yeah, sorry if I stepped on any toes with that, mate. Just wanted to clarify

Zephyrr wrote:

Burn wrote:What happens on other sites, stays on other sites.

Yeah, sorry if I stepped on any toes with that, mate. Just wanted to clarify

All good! No toes were stood upon!

Autobot N wrote:Yep. A couple of guys on TFW who had seen leaked pics were arguing about Cheetor, and that sent the entire thread into a frenzy of people begging to be PMed the leaks. I guess one of the leakers acquiesced, because not 5 minutes later, someone turned around and posted them on 4chan saying something along the lines of "screw this secret frat bullcrap. This is what you get." Meaning some jagoff leaked the images knowing it would get someone fired, all because he was jealous about not initially getting to see early pictures of toys.

Full disclosure: This guy broke the rules and deserved to get fired. But it was really petty of the 4chan poster to share the images knowing what would happen.

Autobot N wrote:4chan

Autobot N wrote:4chan

Well, there's your problem!

In all seriousness, though, I'm pleased with what we're seeing in these "controversial" leaks. Warpath looks very promising and now has me hoping for a new Deluxe Class Powerglide to match this new animation accurate scale. The fact that we're getting Deluxes of Huffer and Pipes too makes me hopeful. I think we're good with the other Minibots as is, though I'd appreciate a slightly more G1 accurate Gears and Swerve at the new "Core" size class at some point. I think we'd really be set then with scale and G1 fidelity for the Minibots.

Cheetor looks pretty damn good, and I don't understand at all what isn't to like about the robot mode. It looks pretty "spot on" to me. [rimshot] Same goes for Blackarachnia. It is a bit of a shame that "Brand Unification" has put an end to the era of Takara's alternate paint jobs, which would have surely corrected some of the missing or incorrect details on these new Beast Wars figures, like Rattrap's missing gold highlights on his shoulders and plain gray lower legs, or Blackarachnia's black instead of yellow spider legs, but the fact that these molds look so on model otherwise more than makes up for that. Maybe, sometime in the future, some of these will get reissued anyway with "premium" paint jobs to make them even more accurate to their screen appearances? I can only hope.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Maybe, sometime in the future, some of these will get reissued anyway with "premium" paint jobs to make them even more accurate to their screen appearances? I can only hope.

The Netflix repaints need SOMETHING to do other than potentially horrifying battle damage

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Maybe, sometime in the future, some of these will get reissued anyway with "premium" paint jobs to make them even more accurate to their screen appearances? I can only hope.

The Netflix repaints need SOMETHING to do other than potentially horrifying battle damage

Yuck! Can you imagine the beast modes being splashed with red paint splotches and gashes for "battle damage?" No thanks! I hope any of the Beast Wars repeats in the Netflix line are instead painted to be more animation accurate (to the original Beast Wars show). Do we know of anyone else besides Deluxe Cheetor who is slated to show up in both the Kingdom and the Netflix line right now?

I'm just waiting till we see all of the fossilizers. Dinosaurs are cool, but skeletal dinosaurs that split into armor? Awesome!

Shame that Needlenose seems to have gotten the shaft despite Tracks being in the line. I don't even care about the guy, but it's just sad that he lost two fan votes in a row and then has to watch as his partner from the first one gets in Kingdom and one of the guys from the second one gets released in SS 86.

o.supreme wrote:I haven't been keeping up with SS announcements since I'm not into them, but so far is there any of the same character planned for the 86 Studio Series & Kingdom? If so I just think that's poor planning IMHO.

SS has Hot Rod and Kingdom supposedly has Rodimus, if that counts, but otherwise no.

Autobot N wrote:I'm just waiting till we see all of the fossilizers. Dinosaurs are cool, but skeletal dinosaurs that split into armor? Awesome!

Shame that Needlenose seems to have gotten the shaft despite Tracks being in the line. I don't even care about the guy, but it's just sad that he lost two fan votes in a row and then has to watch as his partner from the first one gets in Kingdom and one of the guys from the second one gets released in SS 86.

I somehow keep forgetting Tracks is coming despite constantly thinking about how if we get Road Rage I plan to get two and make one into a custom "G1" Knockout

william-james88 wrote:

-WonkoTheSane- wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:apparently the pics aren't really floating around, only a few people have seen them and they aren't showing them to anyone.

I came to that conclusion as well after scouring my usual sources.
A shame too, I really wanted to see that Warpath.
At this rate though, It's probably only a matter of time until someone leaks them, So there's that.

Haha, you got what you wanted 2 posts down

Seriously though, They look pretty good.
They're (Warpath, At least) definitely mistransformed, And may not be the final product, So they may sort out some of the paint apps others have noted. All in all I'm pleased with them. Cheetor (may be least mistransformed of the lot) looks particularly good to me. Really though, I think I'll wait for better pictures to pass judgement, But I'm hopeful.

All three of these look fantastic, I haven't been this excited for a new toyline since early Studio Series. I don't mind that Cheetor doesn't have his intestine gun, that was one aspect of the original design I was never keen on anyway, but this new figure looks to be a huge improvement over the Universe 2.0 version, which is the main thing I was hoping for. I also like that the beast mode is a semi-realistic looking cheetah and not that bug-eyed monstrosity from the cartoon.
I love how show accurate Blackarachnia looks, the black spider legs don't bother me that much. I was genuinely expecting her robot mode to be redesigned so she doesn't have boobs, so I'm (pleasantly) surprised she still has them. Just going by that photo, it looks like an extensive retooling into Tarantulas would be fairly easy, a different head and torso is all that would need to be done.
Warpath is impressive, I'm glad that he seems to be a big chunky figure and not Minibot size. He's been elevated from the maybe pile to a definite purchase for me.

I'm looking at these, and I'm getting super pumped. I mean, I've been wanted some good Beast Wars toys for years, more than what Thrillin' 30s gave us. Next hope now is... Transmetal. I know it's a long shot, but they were a HUGE part of the show and are nostalgic for a lot of people. Doesn't even have to be a part of Kingdom, just pleeeeeeease Hasbro, give us Transmetals.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Maybe, sometime in the future, some of these will get reissued anyway with "premium" paint jobs to make them even more accurate to their screen appearances? I can only hope.

The Netflix repaints need SOMETHING to do other than potentially horrifying battle damage

Yuck! Can you imagine the beast modes being splashed with red paint splotches and gashes for "battle damage?" No thanks! I hope any of the Beast Wars repeats in the Netflix line are instead painted to be more animation accurate (to the original Beast Wars show). Do we know of anyone else besides Deluxe Cheetor who is slated to show up in both the Kingdom and the Netflix line right now?

battle damage could look cool if it looked like when primals' leg got torn open by megs revealing circuitry

Nexus Knight wrote:I'm looking at these, and I'm getting super pumped. I mean, I've been wanted some good Beast Wars toys for years, more than what Thrillin' 30s gave us. Next hope now is... Transmetal. I know it's a long shot, but they were a HUGE part of the show and are nostalgic for a lot of people. Doesn't even have to be a part of Kingdom, just pleeeeeeease Hasbro, give us Transmetals.

Well there's always 2022 they may be more likely to do Transmetals if these beasties sell, so let's help this out by buying all we can *assuming you like the toys of course*

ZeroWolf wrote:

Nexus Knight wrote:I'm looking at these, and I'm getting super pumped. I mean, I've been wanted some good Beast Wars toys for years, more than what Thrillin' 30s gave us. Next hope now is... Transmetal. I know it's a long shot, but they were a HUGE part of the show and are nostalgic for a lot of people. Doesn't even have to be a part of Kingdom, just pleeeeeeease Hasbro, give us Transmetals.

Well there's always 2022 they may be more likely to do Transmetals if these beasties sell, so let's help this out by buying all we can *assuming you like the toys of course*

I wouldn't be surprised if Warden set this up and left notes on how to continue to apply his design approach to continue through bw on to rid and and maybe even armada and onwards

Hellscream9999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Nexus Knight wrote:I'm looking at these, and I'm getting super pumped. I mean, I've been wanted some good Beast Wars toys for years, more than what Thrillin' 30s gave us. Next hope now is... Transmetal. I know it's a long shot, but they were a HUGE part of the show and are nostalgic for a lot of people. Doesn't even have to be a part of Kingdom, just pleeeeeeease Hasbro, give us Transmetals.

Well there's always 2022 they may be more likely to do Transmetals if these beasties sell, so let's help this out by buying all we can *assuming you like the toys of course*

I wouldn't be surprised if Warden set this up and left notes on how to continue to apply his design approach to continue through bw on to rid and and maybe even armada and onwards

wouldn't surprise me actually, he's probably crafted some sort of template to smooth the process a little

For those concerned about the repercussions of these being leaked (why nobody cared when most of Earthrise was leaked I dunno), it's partially Hasbro's fault. Normally we would have gotten our first preview at SDCC, but with the event canceled and Hasbro still not doing a proper replacement online this stuff was bound to get out as we come ever closer to their release date which is now around 4 months away! If Hasbro did Comic-Con@Home or their own even in August they could have gotten ahead of the leaks (the visual ones anyway).

Anyway, I love everything we've seen so far. I'm a little put off by Cheetor's rear cat legs, but they aren't that bad. Blackarachnia looks good, but it's hard to judge no knowing what the alt mode looks like. Warpath I have very high hopes for, it looks like he'll have a lot of cartoon accuracy with big treaded feet and that Autobot symbol front and center on the tank. I think he could still have a shield, just on the back sort of like Cliffjumper.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:For those concerned about the repercussions of these being leaked (why nobody cared when most of Earthrise was leaked I dunno)

It's only because of offsite drama that wasn't the case before, most people aren't really going to have any empathy for whoever got fired mostly because they broke rules in the first place by leaking them.

Sucks for them that they got fired but they brought that upon themselves.

Deadput wrote:

Emerje wrote:For those concerned about the repercussions of these being leaked (why nobody cared when most of Earthrise was leaked I dunno)

It's only because of offsite drama that wasn't the case before, most people aren't really going to have any empathy for whoever got fired mostly because they broke rules in the first place by leaking them.

Sucks for them that they got fired but they brought that upon themselves.

Exactly, if you're going to play the game, you need to learn how to play it. If the leakers had kept quiet in the first places then they would have worried over their job.

Going by Warpath's leg's, he looks to transform similarly to the Generations version, but with extra steps to fill in the front of the tank.

Emerje wrote:For those concerned about the repercussions of these being leaked (why nobody cared when most of Earthrise was leaked I dunno), it's partially Hasbro's fault. Normally we would have gotten our first preview at SDCC, but with the event canceled and Hasbro still not doing a proper replacement online this stuff was bound to get out as we come ever closer to their release date which is now around 4 months away! If Hasbro did Comic-Con@Home or their own even in August they could have gotten ahead of the leaks (the visual ones anyway).

Even if they had done a SDCC panel, they wouldn't have shown off any Kingdom stuff since they don't do next-line reveals until NYCC or Toy Fair. An SDCC panel would have just been more Earthrise, Netflix, Selects, and maybe more Studio Series or Cyberverse if we were lucky.

"Ah Warpath quickly now we must get you ready for the Kingdom of Beasts, their gonna show up any day now and you need to look your best!"


"But a chest cannon isn't even practical or stylish Doctor!"


Posting this since I have a hair cut appointment later today which inspired me to make this, after a half hour I created this Doctor monstrosity that Transforms into a surgeon chair which is equipped with sensors and laser cutters befitting a surgeon, just a little joke about how the last Generations Warpath was just a tiny legends that lacked the most prominent Warpath trait.

I just want to see my gal Airazor finally get a good figure. I'm also crossing my fingers that Windblade finally gets a figure in this line (though given how much is already leaked, I guess we're not getting one in WFC ) If not, maybe I'll make a custom out of Airazor

Zephyrr wrote:I just want to see my gal Airazor finally get a good figure. I'm also crossing my fingers that Windblade finally gets a figure in this line (though given how much is already leaked, I guess we're not getting one in WFC ) If not, maybe I'll make a custom out of Airazor

I do find it weird that the WFC trilogy looks like it will only barely include Bumblebee via the Netflix line and won't cover Windblade at all.

It's not like Windblade is starving for a new figure. I mean, she's had how many new toys of her own since debut? And across Generations Thrilling 30, Legends, SDCC, RID 2015, Titans Return, and Cyberverse?

Emerje wrote:For those concerned about the repercussions of these being leaked (why nobody cared when most of Earthrise was leaked I dunno), it's partially Hasbro's fault.

For some reason, I don't remember about the earthrise leaks. From what I remember, they did a good job keeping things close to the chest. I know the first time we saw the quintesson, arcee, shuttle micromasters, scorponok and allicon were at their designated reveal events.

Sabrblade wrote:It's not like Windblade is starving for a new figure. I mean, she's had how many new toys of her own since debut? And across Generations Thrilling 30, Legends, SDCC, RID 2015, Titans Return, and Cyberverse?

Yes, but how many good ones? The TR one is OK but it's a Headmaster (not everyone's cup of tea) and kinda overly bulky, her OG toy is pretty lackluster, the RID one is probably the best but has a weird face and no wrists, and I don't think Cyberverse has given her a good figure yet.

Black Hat wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:It's not like Windblade is starving for a new figure. I mean, she's had how many new toys of her own since debut? And across Generations Thrilling 30, Legends, SDCC, RID 2015, Titans Return, and Cyberverse?

Yes, but how many good ones? The TR one is OK but it's a Headmaster (not everyone's cup of tea) and kinda overly bulky, her OG toy is pretty lackluster, the RID one is probably the best but has a weird face and no wrists, and I don't think Cyberverse has given her a good figure yet.

True, she has had a lot of figures, but as Black Hat said, none of them have been all that great. T30 was a floppy mess, RID was hollow and had a lot of kibble, Titan's Return is imo the best but it's still lacking in a lot of ways and was kinda shoehorned into the line's gimmick.

Though that's not really the problem for me. The problem is that outside of some of the Japanese releases and the Combiner Hunter version I have them all and I crave more

ZeroWolf wrote:

Deadput wrote:

Emerje wrote:For those concerned about the repercussions of these being leaked (why nobody cared when most of Earthrise was leaked I dunno)

It's only because of offsite drama that wasn't the case before, most people aren't really going to have any empathy for whoever got fired mostly because they broke rules in the first place by leaking them.

Sucks for them that they got fired but they brought that upon themselves.

Exactly, if you're going to play the game, you need to learn how to play it. If the leakers had kept quiet in the first places then they would have worried over their job.

Seconded.

Sabrblade wrote:It's not like Windblade is starving for a new figure. I mean, she's had how many new toys of her own since debut? And across Generations Thrilling 30, Legends, SDCC, RID 2015, Titans Return, and Cyberverse?

You know I was just thinking about this the other day. After the initial burst of toys and media appearances when she was first created, Windblade now seems to be appearing less and less in new toylines and fiction. She went from being one of the main characters in season 1 of Cyberverse to spending a large portion of season 3 effectively in a coma. Not to metion neither the "Power of the Spark" nor the "Bumblebee: Cyberverse Adventures" rebrandings of the Cyberverse toyline had any Windblade toys, not even repaints. In fact the only notable Windlade product since 2018 has been that Furai Model kit that made Twitter angry. She went from being the main character of Machinima's Prime Wars Trilogy to (possibly) not appearing at all in the War for Cybertron Trilogy. The only place you still see her nowadays is the rebooted IDW comics, and even then, she's not as major a character as she was in the original continuity.
It feels as if ever since the Till All Are One comic book was cancelled and Mairghread Scott effectively walked away from Transformers (all she's done since is write one episode of Cyberverse), Windblade has been gradually becoming less and less prominent. I never liked Windblade very much anyway so this doesn't particularly bother me, I just find it interesting.

Windblade had a prominent role in the first post-reboot IDW story. I don't think Hasbro is done with her, though she used to be one of a handful of female Transformers, while Cyberverse, IDW, and Netflix WfC have all had much more expansive casts than comparable media from a decade ago.

This image has leaked on 4chan, Claiming to be of Blackarachnia's spider mode.

(Ps to news staff, I sent the links for this in as news, And posted just the image here.)