Reviews for Transformers Legacy Bombshell and Strongarm
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Speaking of retools, we also have a review of one of Bombshell's wavemates, Strongarm. She is a retool of the Elita 1 mold from last year.
And lastly, we also have Detritus which is our best look at the new Earth mode Hound mold.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 23rd, 2023 @ 8:58am CDT
Why waiting to do everything at once?
Why not?
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 23rd, 2023 @ 10:20am CDT
While I do wish the legs stuck out the sides just a little more, I'm more glad this didn't end up looking too much like Shrapnel's bug mode. Not that Shrapnel's is bad.
Just glad there's more of a distinct look for each.
Posted by Bounti76 on July 23rd, 2023 @ 11:12am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 23rd, 2023 @ 11:18am CDT
Bounti76 wrote:If anyone needed a fully new figure, it should have been Strongarm. The character has some heft and size to her. Not all female robots need to be petite, curvy, and small. Which, while we're on the subject, Elita One should have been a Voyager Class figure. In the cartoon, she's a head shorter than Prime, so why do they make her so small?
It's also a very, very BAD mold. I sold Elita-1 and Minerva with no regrets. Damn clown car with gaps everywhere, and not fun to handle. But I wonder if Strongarm will feel different in hand.
Posted by o.supreme on July 23rd, 2023 @ 11:18am CDT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xLG302KDjY&t=51s
Im still bewinldered at how this is coming out before SS86 Hound. I know some are pointing to examples such as TR Sentinal Prime (before Astrotrain) or Skyshadow (Before Overlord).
What I dont think people recall correctly though is...
With Hound, we've known about him for over a year, then Detritus name came up later.
With TR Sentinel & Skyshadow, the toys came out first, and fans just drew correct conclusions that these were pretools for the characters they were obviously made for.
The delay for SS86 Hound is still
Posted by Sabrblade on July 23rd, 2023 @ 11:23am CDT
Apparently, Hasbro doesn't like making characters with just car altmodes any bigger than the Deluxe class.Bounti76 wrote:If anyone needed a fully new figure, it should have been Strongarm. The character has some heft and size to her. Not all female robots need to be petite, curvy, and small. Which, while we're on the subject, Elita One should have been a Voyager Class figure. In the cartoon, she's a head shorter than Prime, so why do they make her so small?
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 23rd, 2023 @ 11:24am CDT
o.supreme wrote:There's also a Detritus review as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xLG302KDjY&t=51s
Im still bewinldered at how this is coming out before SS86 Hound. I know some are pointing to examples such as TR Sentinal Prime (before Astrotrain) or Skyshadow (Before Overlord).
What I dont think people recall correctly though is...
With Hound, we've known about him for over a year, then Detritus name came up later.
With TR Sentinel & Skyshadow, the toys came out first, and fans just drew correct conclusions that these were pretools for the characters they were obviously made for.
The delay for SS86 Hound is still
Exclusives are weird because retailers' attitudes and preferences can shift. Velocitron Hot Rod was cancelled, it's possible something similar happened with Hound, but we know Hasbro is committed to getting the figure out there somehow.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 23rd, 2023 @ 12:09pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:There's also a Detritus review as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xLG302KDjY&t=51s
Im still bewinldered at how this is coming out before SS86 Hound. I know some are pointing to examples such as TR Sentinal Prime (before Astrotrain) or Skyshadow (Before Overlord).
What I dont think people recall correctly though is...
With Hound, we've known about him for over a year, then Detritus name came up later.
With TR Sentinel & Skyshadow, the toys came out first, and fans just drew correct conclusions that these were pretools for the characters they were obviously made for.
The delay for SS86 Hound is still
Don't forget triple changing Titans Return Voyager Prime and Megs being pretools for Tankor and Blitzwing respectively.
Posted by Bounti76 on July 23rd, 2023 @ 12:48pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Apparently, Hasbro doesn't like making characters with just car altmodes any bigger than the Deluxe class.Bounti76 wrote:If anyone needed a fully new figure, it should have been Strongarm. The character has some heft and size to her. Not all female robots need to be petite, curvy, and small. Which, while we're on the subject, Elita One should have been a Voyager Class figure. In the cartoon, she's a head shorter than Prime, so why do they make her so small?
They made Override in the Speedia 500 line as a Voyager. And like Override, Elita One doesn't need to be a large Voyager, just more in scale with Optimus. Even if they'd left Elita as a Deluxe, a large Deluxe (eg Siege Ironhide) would have worked better.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 23rd, 2023 @ 1:30pm CDT
Bounti76 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Apparently, Hasbro doesn't like making characters with just car altmodes any bigger than the Deluxe class.Bounti76 wrote:If anyone needed a fully new figure, it should have been Strongarm. The character has some heft and size to her. Not all female robots need to be petite, curvy, and small. Which, while we're on the subject, Elita One should have been a Voyager Class figure. In the cartoon, she's a head shorter than Prime, so why do they make her so small?
They made Override in the Speedia 500 line as a Voyager. And like Override, Elita One doesn't need to be a large Voyager, just more in scale with Optimus. Even if they'd left Elita as a Deluxe, a large Deluxe (eg Siege Ironhide) would have worked better.
Don't forget that there's also SS86 Hotrod.
Also, RiD Strongarm is not supposed to be a car. She's supposed to be a truck/SUV. So a voyager would have been appropriate.
Posted by william-james88 on July 23rd, 2023 @ 2:56pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:There's also a Detritus review as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xLG302KDjY&t=51s
Im still bewinldered at how this is coming out before SS86 Hound. I know some are pointing to examples such as TR Sentinal Prime (before Astrotrain) or Skyshadow (Before Overlord).
What I dont think people recall correctly though is...
With Hound, we've known about him for over a year, then Detritus name came up later.
With TR Sentinel & Skyshadow, the toys came out first, and fans just drew correct conclusions that these were pretools for the characters they were obviously made for.
The delay for SS86 Hound is still
Thanks, I'll add it to the article.
As for your question, the difference is you are comparing regular retail releases that are planned by Hasbro to exclusive releases that are planned by retailers. The delay for SS86 Hound is due to Target's scheduling, just as Velocitron Hot Rod's current cancellation is due to Walmart's scheduling.
Posted by DeathReviews on July 23rd, 2023 @ 3:10pm CDT
Posted by Till-all-R1 on July 23rd, 2023 @ 3:31pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 23rd, 2023 @ 3:32pm CDT
Is there a Motormaster rerun?Till-all-R1 wrote:I'm curious, if they were going to do a Stunticon 5-pk then why bother with a Motormaster rerun? Seems that maybe these two items would be out around the same time.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 23rd, 2023 @ 3:55pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Is there a Motormaster rerun?Till-all-R1 wrote:I'm curious, if they were going to do a Stunticon 5-pk then why bother with a Motormaster rerun? Seems that maybe these two items would be out around the same time.
Yes and it's been a while since its announcement.
https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... 201976?o=4
https://www.agesthreeandup.ca/products/ ... 8f01&_ss=r
https://tfsource.com/tfsource/commander ... ns-legacy/
https://toysnowman.com/products/transfo ... 2609415394
All are preorders.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 23rd, 2023 @ 3:58pm CDT
Isn't the 5-pack toy deco? In that case the rerun for Motormaster is justifiable considering the deco difference.Till-all-R1 wrote:I'm curious, if they were going to do a Stunticon 5-pk then why bother with a Motormaster rerun? Seems that maybe these two items would be out around the same time.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 23rd, 2023 @ 3:59pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Is there a Motormaster rerun?Till-all-R1 wrote:I'm curious, if they were going to do a Stunticon 5-pk then why bother with a Motormaster rerun? Seems that maybe these two items would be out around the same time.
Yes and it's been a while since its announcement.
https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... 201976?o=4
https://www.agesthreeandup.ca/products/ ... 8f01&_ss=r
https://tfsource.com/tfsource/commander ... ns-legacy/
https://toysnowman.com/products/transfo ... 2609415394
All are preorders.
It basically comes down to availability: The Menasor giftset is a Pulse exclusive, while the Motormaster re-release is available anywhere else.
So close to completing CW Menasor, and now this...
Posted by Emerje on July 23rd, 2023 @ 7:24pm CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:I'm curious, if they were going to do a Stunticon 5-pk then why bother with a Motormaster rerun? Seems that maybe these two items would be out around the same time.
The second run is for people that got all of the single cars but weren't able to get Motormaster. Those people aren't very likely to buy the box set just for Motormaster and even if they did they'd still be left with four unused cars either way.
Emerje
Posted by TK415 on July 24th, 2023 @ 5:48am CDT
william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:There's also a Detritus review as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xLG302KDjY&t=51s
Im still bewinldered at how this is coming out before SS86 Hound. I know some are pointing to examples such as TR Sentinal Prime (before Astrotrain) or Skyshadow (Before Overlord).
What I dont think people recall correctly though is...
With Hound, we've known about him for over a year, then Detritus name came up later.
With TR Sentinel & Skyshadow, the toys came out first, and fans just drew correct conclusions that these were pretools for the characters they were obviously made for.
The delay for SS86 Hound is still
Thanks, I'll add it to the article.
As for your question, the difference is you are comparing regular retail releases that are planned by Hasbro to exclusive releases that are planned by retailers. The delay for SS86 Hound is due to Target's scheduling, just as Velocitron Hot Rod's current cancellation is due to Walmart's scheduling.
Why is as Hound dependent on Target? Would he not be mass retail?
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 24th, 2023 @ 6:19am CDT
TK415 wrote:william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:There's also a Detritus review as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xLG302KDjY&t=51s
Im still bewinldered at how this is coming out before SS86 Hound. I know some are pointing to examples such as TR Sentinal Prime (before Astrotrain) or Skyshadow (Before Overlord).
What I dont think people recall correctly though is...
With Hound, we've known about him for over a year, then Detritus name came up later.
With TR Sentinel & Skyshadow, the toys came out first, and fans just drew correct conclusions that these were pretools for the characters they were obviously made for.
The delay for SS86 Hound is still
Thanks, I'll add it to the article.
As for your question, the difference is you are comparing regular retail releases that are planned by Hasbro to exclusive releases that are planned by retailers. The delay for SS86 Hound is due to Target's scheduling, just as Velocitron Hot Rod's current cancellation is due to Walmart's scheduling.
Why is as Hound dependent on Target? Would he not be mass retail?
Hound was leaked as part of a Buzzworthy Bumblebee two-pack that included Hatchet. As far as I recall, it's not clear if that release has been delayed or cancelled, but Hasbro has said that he's still coming.
Posted by william-james88 on July 24th, 2023 @ 7:33am CDT
TK415 wrote:william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:There's also a Detritus review as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xLG302KDjY&t=51s
Im still bewinldered at how this is coming out before SS86 Hound. I know some are pointing to examples such as TR Sentinal Prime (before Astrotrain) or Skyshadow (Before Overlord).
What I dont think people recall correctly though is...
With Hound, we've known about him for over a year, then Detritus name came up later.
With TR Sentinel & Skyshadow, the toys came out first, and fans just drew correct conclusions that these were pretools for the characters they were obviously made for.
The delay for SS86 Hound is still
Thanks, I'll add it to the article.
As for your question, the difference is you are comparing regular retail releases that are planned by Hasbro to exclusive releases that are planned by retailers. The delay for SS86 Hound is due to Target's scheduling, just as Velocitron Hot Rod's current cancellation is due to Walmart's scheduling.
Why is as Hound dependent on Target? Would he not be mass retail?
No, Hound is not mass retail
Posted by o.supreme on July 24th, 2023 @ 8:54am CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:TK415 wrote:william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:There's also a Detritus review as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xLG302KDjY&t=51s
Im still bewinldered at how this is coming out before SS86 Hound. I know some are pointing to examples such as TR Sentinal Prime (before Astrotrain) or Skyshadow (Before Overlord).
What I dont think people recall correctly though is...
With Hound, we've known about him for over a year, then Detritus name came up later.
With TR Sentinel & Skyshadow, the toys came out first, and fans just drew correct conclusions that these were pretools for the characters they were obviously made for.
The delay for SS86 Hound is still
Thanks, I'll add it to the article.
As for your question, the difference is you are comparing regular retail releases that are planned by Hasbro to exclusive releases that are planned by retailers. The delay for SS86 Hound is due to Target's scheduling, just as Velocitron Hot Rod's current cancellation is due to Walmart's scheduling.
Why is as Hound dependent on Target? Would he not be mass retail?
Hound was leaked as part of a Buzzworthy Bumblebee two-pack that included Hatchet. As far as I recall, it's not clear if that release has been delayed or cancelled, but Hasbro has said that he's still coming.
I dont *think* it was a 2-pack, I think it was just 2 seperate deluxe releases. Based on what we know now from missing numbers it would likely be:
94 DotM Hatchet &
86-18 TF:TM Hound
If Target decided to drop their exclusivity for these in the Buzzworthy line, hopefully Hasbro can adjust to make them standard mass retail releases at some point. One additional point though. Because they would only be *exclusive* in the United States to Target, other parts of the world it wouldn't matter. If it was just target holding them back, one would think they would have seen release in other parts of the world by now.
Posted by william-james88 on July 24th, 2023 @ 9:30am CDT
o.supreme wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:TK415 wrote:william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:There's also a Detritus review as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xLG302KDjY&t=51s
Im still bewinldered at how this is coming out before SS86 Hound. I know some are pointing to examples such as TR Sentinal Prime (before Astrotrain) or Skyshadow (Before Overlord).
What I dont think people recall correctly though is...
With Hound, we've known about him for over a year, then Detritus name came up later.
With TR Sentinel & Skyshadow, the toys came out first, and fans just drew correct conclusions that these were pretools for the characters they were obviously made for.
The delay for SS86 Hound is still
Thanks, I'll add it to the article.
As for your question, the difference is you are comparing regular retail releases that are planned by Hasbro to exclusive releases that are planned by retailers. The delay for SS86 Hound is due to Target's scheduling, just as Velocitron Hot Rod's current cancellation is due to Walmart's scheduling.
Why is as Hound dependent on Target? Would he not be mass retail?
Hound was leaked as part of a Buzzworthy Bumblebee two-pack that included Hatchet. As far as I recall, it's not clear if that release has been delayed or cancelled, but Hasbro has said that he's still coming.
I dont *think* it was a 2-pack, I think it was just 2 seperate deluxe releases. Based on what we know now from missing numbers it would likely be:
94 DotM Hatchet &
86-18 TF:TM Hound
If Target decided to drop their exclusivity for these in the Buzzworthy line, hopefully Hasbro can adjust to make them standard mass retail releases at some point. One additional point though. Because they would only be *exclusive* in the United States to Target, other parts of the world it wouldn't matter. If it was just target holding them back, one would think they would have seen release in other parts of the world by now.
All stock is made at once. If Target chooses not to make these exclusives as part of their schedule then they don't go into production, so no one gets it. That's what happened with Hot Rod.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 24th, 2023 @ 9:35am CDT
And I do hope the plan changes so Hound is a regular, mainline release.
I would’ve thought he could’ve landed in the SS86 line-up.
As far as we know, Sunstreaker is the only other deluxe right now, and of course we don’t know what else will be released under SS, but two ‘86 movie deluxes in a year isn’t what I’d call a lofty expectation.
If he ends up in Legacy, so be it. As long as he isn’t canceled.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 24th, 2023 @ 9:50am CDT
I really ham-handed my previous copy badly and Tarn turn out to be not so bad.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 24th, 2023 @ 9:59am CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:Pretty sure those are planned as individual releases.
And I do hope the plan changes so Hound is a regular, mainline release.
I would’ve thought he could’ve landed in the SS86 line-up.
As far as we know, Sunstreaker is the only other deluxe right now, and of course we don’t know what else will be released under SS, but two ‘86 movie deluxes in a year isn’t what I’d call a lofty expectation.
If he ends up in Legacy, so be it. As long as he isn’t canceled.
My bad, they were individual releases in Buzzworthy rather than a 2-pack, per JTPrime17 at TFW a few months ago. Sorry for the error.
https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-21226709
I feel like if they were still coming in Buzzworthy we would know by now, but who knows.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 24th, 2023 @ 10:30am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 24th, 2023 @ 10:33am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I feel like SS86 Hound was put in Buzzworthy Bumblebee probably to avoid what happened with both Siege and Netflix Hound, in that both of them were severe shelf-warmers that just would not go away from retail store pegs for the longest time.
That's because he was overpacked in more than one wave.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 24th, 2023 @ 10:34am CDT
The Netflix one too?-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I feel like SS86 Hound was put in Buzzworthy Bumblebee probably to avoid what happened with both Siege and Netflix Hound, in that both of them were severe shelf-warmers that just would not go away from retail store pegs for the longest time.
That's because he was overpacked in more than one wave.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 24th, 2023 @ 10:51am CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:Sowndwave76 wrote:Pretty sure those are planned as individual releases.
And I do hope the plan changes so Hound is a regular, mainline release.
I would’ve thought he could’ve landed in the SS86 line-up.
As far as we know, Sunstreaker is the only other deluxe right now, and of course we don’t know what else will be released under SS, but two ‘86 movie deluxes in a year isn’t what I’d call a lofty expectation.
If he ends up in Legacy, so be it. As long as he isn’t canceled.
My bad, they were individual releases in Buzzworthy rather than a 2-pack, per JTPrime17 at TFW a few months ago. Sorry for the error.
https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-21226709
I feel like if they were still coming in Buzzworthy we would know by now, but who knows.
Oh no worries...
And speaking of not worrying, I think it's a safe bet that with the Detritus (sp?) release happening, this newly re-tooled (or new?) mold is going to be used for Hound, as well as another character within the next year or so.
If Target doesn't want it in Buzzworthy, then I'm assuming Hastak will get it sorted and still get this released. This would be a good G1 figure to have in the mix of Legacy or SS86.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 24th, 2023 @ 1:17pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The Netflix one too?-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I feel like SS86 Hound was put in Buzzworthy Bumblebee probably to avoid what happened with both Siege and Netflix Hound, in that both of them were severe shelf-warmers that just would not go away from retail store pegs for the longest time.
That's because he was overpacked in more than one wave.
The Netflix didn't had much deco difference. Plus it came out at the same time the regular Siege Hounds were clogging the shelves.
Posted by Till-all-R1 on July 24th, 2023 @ 1:51pm CDT
Posted by Munkky on July 24th, 2023 @ 3:00pm CDT
I am slightly worried that I'll miss the boat on Powerlinx Hot Shot once it's available, while it's still too far out to know if I'll be working on the day of Pulsecon, I am concerned that Powerlinx Hot Shot will sell out within seconds of going up on Pulse, or something dumb will happen like the site crashes because so many people are ordering stuff all at once. Of course I have no idea exactly how high demand this set will be, but I do still have my worries.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 28th, 2023 @ 1:43pm CDT
Legacy 2 pack Deadeye Duel review!
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Posted by william-james88 on July 29th, 2023 @ 11:13pm CDT
Sources include HK TF Facebook page, Daftraider, Dann86, and BLSP21.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 30th, 2023 @ 7:10pm CDT
And here is how the Armada Legacy figures fit into the Unicron Trilogy
Posted by o.supreme on August 1st, 2023 @ 2:31pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Destron on August 1st, 2023 @ 3:07pm CDT
When a figure that has a long sword in their arsenal why the hell can't they be engineered to stance just like this and not just wielding with only one hand? Proper!!!
Posted by Munkky on August 1st, 2023 @ 3:35pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Primal on August 1st, 2023 @ 3:44pm CDT
Considering how the other repacks in Legacy have gone up, I imagine that Slug will come back in stock/just suddenly appear once the rest of the wave has reached the point of being in-stock.o.supreme wrote:I got my pre orders in for LE wave 4. I thought the developers said that core Slug would be offered again in that wave? I have one but need one more for a friend....the link hasn't.been updated on Amazon as far as I can tell
Dang you're eating good over there, US preorders say October 1st for all of them thus far.Munkky wrote:I have my pre-orders in for what I want from wave 7, thankfully Shadow Striker will be ready to ship from the 4th and Dreadwing from the 10th so I won't have to wait too long for either, but Bombshell won;t be shipping until September which is a bit of a shame. I'm still undecided on Strongarm, but seeing how unpopular that figure seems to be I don't imagine she'll sell out quickly so I have some time to think about it.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 1st, 2023 @ 4:22pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:I got my pre orders in for LE wave 4. I thought the developers said that core Slug would be offered again in that wave? I have one but need one more for a friend....the link hasn't.been updated on Amazon as far as I can tell
Supposedly Snarl will be accompanied by Slug, Sludge and an Optimus Prime repack. Which works for me; Grimlock, Swoop and Scarr were the first to appear in my area, stores having skipped Waves 1 & 2.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 2nd, 2023 @ 7:25am CDT
I really want Dreadwing, and BBTS gets leaders fast, so at least he is the one I really wanted and planned to do it.
I think the rest were just concerns over availability, given when this wave will likely be released
Posted by Razorbeast88 on August 6th, 2023 @ 3:44pm CDT
I love them both. I pre-ordered Bludgeon because I didn't want a repeat of Tarn (I'm still waiting on Tarn from Amazon and I pre-ordered him on entertainment earth in case that falls through)