Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Roadbuster, Whirl, and Tankor
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Posted by Sabrblade on July 4th, 2014 @ 2:25pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 4th, 2014 @ 2:28pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Aw man, those are so much nicer!
Forget that, how can TakaraTomy get away with Whirl and Roadbuster? I demand details!
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on July 4th, 2014 @ 2:30pm CDT
Posted by Rated X on July 4th, 2014 @ 3:16pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 4th, 2014 @ 4:56pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Comics #3 and #4 are up, featuring Silverbolt, Tigatron, Airazor, plus Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy
Transformers Legends yonkoma page
And as I predicted, each character represents a different aspect. Tigatron's is possibly the most off from the original, being really into the ladies (even referencing TM2 Blackarachnia bra!), and Airazor, well... at least they kept her US gender
Would you or another fan be willing to translate these comics for the non-Japanese speaking audience? They look hilarious.
Posted by Mindmaster on July 4th, 2014 @ 6:44pm CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Takara, you mad genius you.
Posted by Manterax Prime on July 4th, 2014 @ 7:40pm CDT
Different enough to import = No.
Posted by fenrir72 on July 4th, 2014 @ 7:53pm CDT
And I just got a Roadbuster.
Seems like the Tomy version won't come with the decals(?)Instant get! I'll get the Tomy RB in 'bot mode and keep the hasbro in vehicle mode. Whirl will sure 'cause the high priced ebay Whirl's to drop like rocks.
Posted by fenrir72 on July 4th, 2014 @ 8:06pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Takara, you mad genius you.
Mad genius? Please explain?
Posted by Mindmaster on July 4th, 2014 @ 8:21pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Mindmaster wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Takara, you mad genius you.
Mad genius? Please explain?
As you recall, Roadbuster and Whirl made up the Deluxe Vehicles. There was actually a third, tank-like robot in the line they originated from, Special Armored Batallion Dorvack, which was called "Bonaparte Tulcas", the blue and gray tank you see to the far right. It was presumably not included into Generation One due to it not having a convincing robot mode. (more can be read here)
I was saying that Takara were comprised of mad geniuses because they're releasing their version of Tankor, whose deco and physique (tank-treaded feet, chicken legs, claw hand(s), and general bulkiness) coincidentally somewhat matches up to the Bonaparte Tulcas, thus making up the third never-to-be Deluxe Vehicle that someone could totally repurpose as so.
TLDR version: Takara is being sneaky and cheeky by releasing a blue and gray tank character in a wave that is comprised of modern reimaginings of the 1985 Deluxe Vehicles, whose ranks were ripped from another transforming robot toyline that had a third, blue and gray tank character that was never released as a Deluxe Vehicle in the original Generation One run for one reason or another.
Posted by fenrir72 on July 4th, 2014 @ 8:50pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on July 4th, 2014 @ 10:00pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 4th, 2014 @ 10:08pm CDT
megatronus wrote:I'm definitely going to get Takara's Tankor to lead my Hasbro Drones, much as I have Takara's Scourge to lead my Hasbro Sweeps.
That's how I display my Scourage and Sweeps as well.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 4th, 2014 @ 11:11pm CDT
I think you might be reaching a bit, here. That Tankor is in show-accurate Beast Machines colors, not Bonaparte Tulcas' colors.Mindmaster wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Mindmaster wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Takara, you mad genius you.
Mad genius? Please explain?
As you recall, Roadbuster and Whirl made up the Deluxe Vehicles. There was actually a third, tank-like robot in the line they originated from, Special Armored Batallion Dorvack, which was called "Bonaparte Tulcas", the blue and gray tank you see to the far right. It was presumably not included into Generation One due to it not having a convincing robot mode. (more can be read here)
I was saying that Takara were comprised of mad geniuses because they're releasing their version of Tankor, whose deco and physique (tank-treaded feet, chicken legs, claw hand(s), and general bulkiness) coincidentally somewhat matches up to the Bonaparte Tulcas, thus making up the third never-to-be Deluxe Vehicle that someone could totally repurpose as so.
TLDR version: Takara is being sneaky and cheeky by releasing a blue and gray tank character in a wave that is comprised of modern reimaginings of the 1985 Deluxe Vehicles, whose ranks were ripped from another transforming robot toyline that had a third, blue and gray tank character that was never released as a Deluxe Vehicle in the original Generation One run for one reason or another.
Besides, Bonaparte Tulcas was in this year's BotCon comic, with the comic artist thinking of the name "Landfire" as a proposed TF name for him (it didn't make the cut, but Tulcas still made it in). It's unambiguous as to who this Tankor toy is meant to be.
After all, the usual "mad genius" stuff we get from Takara tends to come from e-HOBBY or in special events or store exclusives and such, rather than the standard mass retail items (Dispensor, notwithstanding).
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on July 4th, 2014 @ 11:40pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I think you might be reaching a bit, here. That Tankor is in show-accurate Beast Machines colors, not Bonaparte Tulcas' colors.
Besides, Bonaparte Tulcas was in this year's BotCon comic, with the comic artist thinking of the name "Landfire" as a proposed TF name for him (it didn't make the cut, but Tulcas still made it in). It's unambiguous as to who this Tankor toy is meant to be.
After all, the usual "mad genius" stuff we get from Takara tends to come from e-HOBBY or in special events or store exclusives and such, rather than the standard mass retail items (Dispensor, notwithstanding).
Really, we're the ones who are reaching by pointing out a theme? I suppose it's just a massive quinky dink, that the small squat tank man features with the wave that contains both of the neo classics renditions of the G1 Deluxe Vehicles, which also happened have a small squat tank man in their original line up that was nixed last minute. we're the ones who are reaching, yeah okay
Posted by Sabrblade on July 4th, 2014 @ 11:48pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on July 4th, 2014 @ 11:52pm CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Really, we're the ones who are reaching by pointing out a theme? I suppose it's just a massive quinky dink, that the small squat tank man features with the wave that contains both of the neo classics renditions of the G1 Deluxe Vehicles, which also happened have a small squat tank man in their original line up that was nixed last minute. we're the ones who are reaching, yeah okay
This was what I was trying to go for. Not saying that Tankor was the other robot whose name I've already forgotten, just pointed out the sneakiness and cheekiness of Takara for releasing the character, whose deco and physique, like I said before, is similar to said robot in the same wave as the Generations Deluxe (or, should we say, Voyagers?) Vehicles.
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on July 4th, 2014 @ 11:58pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:If it actually had Tulcas' deco, then yeah, it'd be more convincing. As is, it just looks more simply like Takara's playing catch up on the current Hasbro molds that they haven't gotten to yet, and it just so happens that Tankor, Whirl, and Roadbuster are among the immediate recent ones. After all, Rattrap's in this too, and he's Tankor's wave mate over here. I'd imagine that Sky-Byte shouldn't be too far along with this line as well. Maybe even Skids, since his mold strangely got overlooked by the Japanese Generations line altogether.
These three come out in a wave after Primal and Rattrap, it's intentional, If takara was just playing catch up, why would two beast wars characters be grouped together? if it were just catch up, where are these divided into set waves instead of mishmash of characters?. Also, let's be fair here Sabrblade, whenever you see something new that has a passing relation to some obscure triviality, you're quick to bring it up, even if others say you're reaching. Is it so bad that some of us do the same?
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2014 @ 12:04am CDT
Though, are there waves for this line? (honest question)
Also, now we need someone out there to make us a real Tulcas, whether it's from this or any other workable mold. It's high time we got it worked into here, after all the crazy inhumanoid designs ROTF gave us.
Posted by Observedhalo on July 5th, 2014 @ 12:31am CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 5th, 2014 @ 1:29am CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 5th, 2014 @ 2:22am CDT
that is so weird i had this as a kid http://galleryplus.ebayimg.com/ws/web/1 ... 0x1000.jpg and thought it was some stupid imitation transformer, never thought how whirl and roadbuster were related in some waySabrblade wrote:I think you might be reaching a bit, here. That Tankor is in show-accurate Beast Machines colors, not Bonaparte Tulcas' colors.Mindmaster wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Mindmaster wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Takara, you mad genius you.
Mad genius? Please explain?
As you recall, Roadbuster and Whirl made up the Deluxe Vehicles. There was actually a third, tank-like robot in the line they originated from, Special Armored Batallion Dorvack, which was called "Bonaparte Tulcas", the blue and gray tank you see to the far right. It was presumably not included into Generation One due to it not having a convincing robot mode. (more can be read here)
I was saying that Takara were comprised of mad geniuses because they're releasing their version of Tankor, whose deco and physique (tank-treaded feet, chicken legs, claw hand(s), and general bulkiness) coincidentally somewhat matches up to the Bonaparte Tulcas, thus making up the third never-to-be Deluxe Vehicle that someone could totally repurpose as so.
TLDR version: Takara is being sneaky and cheeky by releasing a blue and gray tank character in a wave that is comprised of modern reimaginings of the 1985 Deluxe Vehicles, whose ranks were ripped from another transforming robot toyline that had a third, blue and gray tank character that was never released as a Deluxe Vehicle in the original Generation One run for one reason or another.
Besides, Bonaparte Tulcas was in this year's BotCon comic, with the comic artist thinking of the name "Landfire" as a proposed TF name for him (it didn't make the cut, but Tulcas still made it in). It's unambiguous as to who this Tankor toy is meant to be.
After all, the usual "mad genius" stuff we get from Takara tends to come from e-HOBBY or in special events or store exclusives and such, rather than the standard mass retail items (Dispensor, notwithstanding).
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 5th, 2014 @ 2:24am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 5th, 2014 @ 5:29am CDT
Wait...
Oh, Takara, you...
And I thought the Legends/Cyberverse lines were making a glorious return.
Sigh...
Posted by xyl360 on July 5th, 2014 @ 8:29am CDT
I do like all the metallic paint though, so I probably will use Takara's as Tankor and Hasbro's as one of his drones (along with the rest of my Tank Drone figures from the Beast Machines line).
I probably won't buy the other two. I've got Hasbro's Whirl and I'm not that impressed, probably because I never had any attachment to the character since he was never featured on the show. I didn't get Roadbuster and won't buy Takara's for the same reason (I didn't buy Fansproject's version either).
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2014 @ 8:48am CDT
Unless they put it somewhere else on his body, since Tankor didn't have a tattoo of his faction on his pec in the show.xyl360 wrote:I see no Vehicon faction symbol on Tankor . It's surprising that Takara would exclude a detail like that when Hasbro did not. I have some Reprolabels ones, but still, it's kinda annoying.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 5th, 2014 @ 9:45am CDT
Mindmaster wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Mindmaster wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Takara, you mad genius you.
Mad genius? Please explain?
As you recall, Roadbuster and Whirl made up the Deluxe Vehicles. There was actually a third, tank-like robot in the line they originated from, Special Armored Batallion Dorvack, which was called "Bonaparte Tulcas", the blue and gray tank you see to the far right. It was presumably not included into Generation One due to it not having a convincing robot mode. (more can be read here)
I was saying that Takara were comprised of mad geniuses because they're releasing their version of Tankor, whose deco and physique (tank-treaded feet, chicken legs, claw hand(s), and general bulkiness) coincidentally somewhat matches up to the Bonaparte Tulcas, thus making up the third never-to-be Deluxe Vehicle that someone could totally repurpose as so.
TLDR version: Takara is being sneaky and cheeky by releasing a blue and gray tank character in a wave that is comprised of modern reimaginings of the 1985 Deluxe Vehicles, whose ranks were ripped from another transforming robot toyline that had a third, blue and gray tank character that was never released as a Deluxe Vehicle in the original Generation One run for one reason or another.
I like the way you think, but it may ultimately be just pure chance that Tankor is among the Deluxe Vehicles. I'm not gonna go into detail on how he can't be a new character, since you never claimed he'd be. Still, if we see "themes" in the future waves (Wave 1: Beasts, Wave 2: Dorvack, Wave 3: ???), it can't be coincidental.
Posted by shajaki on July 5th, 2014 @ 10:55am CDT
ha! i think everyone does that with the sourge/sweeps. though i never did get that fracas targetmaster...megatronus wrote:I'm definitely going to get Takara's Tankor to lead my Hasbro Drones, much as I have Takara's Scourge to lead my Hasbro Sweeps.
i was thinking of having the new tankor (has or tak) leading a few original BM tank drones. just cause theyll be slighyly smaller. also i reeaally hope a third party comes along to make him a better cannon, which would be the perfect chance to give him a key to vector sigma as well!
Posted by megatronus on July 5th, 2014 @ 11:31am CDT
xyl360 wrote:I probably won't buy the other two. I've got Hasbro's Whirl and I'm not that impressed, probably because I never had any attachment to the character since he was never featured on the show. I didn't get Roadbuster and won't buy Takara's for the same reason (I didn't buy Fansproject's version either).
I'm a bit confused? There's a difference between being not impressed because the figure is meh, and being uninterested due to no attachment to the character... which is it? One, the other or both?
Not trying to excessively nitpick... just curious
shajaki wrote:ha! i think everyone does that with the sourge/sweeps. though i never did get that fracas targetmaster...megatronus wrote:I'm definitely going to get Takara's Tankor to lead my Hasbro Drones, much as I have Takara's Scourge to lead my Hasbro Sweeps.
i was thinking of having the new tankor (has or tak) leading a few original BM tank drones. just cause theyll be slighyly smaller. also i reeaally hope a third party comes along to make him a better cannon, which would be the perfect chance to give him a key to vector sigma as well!
Mmm... Vector Sigma...
Posted by Dead Metal on July 5th, 2014 @ 2:23pm CDT
They look pretty good, the Hasbro versions still look good though.
Posted by petro rabbit on July 5th, 2014 @ 4:03pm CDT
Posted by xyl360 on July 6th, 2014 @ 5:09am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Unless they put it somewhere else on his body, since Tankor didn't have a tattoo of his faction on his pec in the show.xyl360 wrote:I see no Vehicon faction symbol on Tankor . It's surprising that Takara would exclude a detail like that when Hasbro did not. I have some Reprolabels ones, but still, it's kinda annoying.
Ah, right you are. I always thought he did for some reason . Nevermind then, carry on Takara .
It was actually on his shoulder:
I wonder if Takara put one there? I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Posted by xyl360 on July 6th, 2014 @ 5:13am CDT
It's both, really. I thought he looked like a nifty figure when I saw pics etc., but then I got him in hand and wasn't too thrilled/wasn't as enthused about him as I thought I'd be. Had he been a character featured on the shows/media I'm familiar with/into, it would have no doubt eliminated any negative feelings I had about the figure. It's the same reason that, even though they aren't perfect (though pretty damn close), I really have no complaints about Generations Waspinator and Rhinox (especially after doing some parts swapping between Takara's and Hasbro's Waspy and applying a bit of paint).megatronus wrote:xyl360 wrote:I probably won't buy the other two. I've got Hasbro's Whirl and I'm not that impressed, probably because I never had any attachment to the character since he was never featured on the show. I didn't get Roadbuster and won't buy Takara's for the same reason (I didn't buy Fansproject's version either).
I'm a bit confused? There's a difference between being not impressed because the figure is meh, and being uninterested due to no attachment to the character... which is it? One, the other or both?
Not trying to excessively nitpick... just curious
Posted by shajaki on July 6th, 2014 @ 9:30am CDT
you should totally post some pics of this!xyl360 wrote:I really have no complaints about Generations Waspinator and Rhinox (especially after doing some parts swapping between Takara's and Hasbro's Waspy and applying a bit of paint).
Posted by El Duque on July 9th, 2014 @ 10:57pm CDT
Posted by Janus Prime on July 9th, 2014 @ 11:26pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 10th, 2014 @ 8:24am CDT
Got that right. Still, it's unfortunate that he's less show-accurate this time around, despite using that head and chest.Janus Prime wrote:That Optimus Primal is a tough toy to top, he still holds as a figure almost 20 years later.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 10th, 2014 @ 12:23pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Got that right. Still, it's unfortunate that he's less show-accurate this time around, despite using that head and chest.Janus Prime wrote:That Optimus Primal is a tough toy to top, he still holds as a figure almost 20 years later.
I don't hide the fact I'm not a fan of beast wars but I have to agree that Primal toy is fantastic. It does so much in a relatively small space.
Posted by Mindmaster on July 10th, 2014 @ 1:06pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 10th, 2014 @ 1:09pm CDT
Nope. Original pics were of the Ultra.Mindmaster wrote:Hold up... wasn't Primal supposed to use the smaller Deluxe-ish version of the mold?
Posted by Mindmaster on July 10th, 2014 @ 1:16pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Nope. Original pics were of the Ultra.Mindmaster wrote:Hold up... wasn't Primal supposed to use the smaller Deluxe-ish version of the mold?
Huh. Could've sworn it was the Deluxe.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 10th, 2014 @ 1:48pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Nope. Original pics were of the Ultra.Mindmaster wrote:Hold up... wasn't Primal supposed to use the smaller Deluxe-ish version of the mold?
Huh. Could've sworn it was the Deluxe.
The primary difference between Robot Masters and Beast Wars Reborn Convoys is in the hands. The larger original has closed fists, while the smaller remake has open hands:
Posted by Janus Prime on July 10th, 2014 @ 4:46pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Got that right. Still, it's unfortunate that he's less show-accurate this time around, despite using that head and chest.Janus Prime wrote:That Optimus Primal is a tough toy to top, he still holds as a figure almost 20 years later.
I don't hide the fact I'm not a fan of beast wars but I have to agree that Primal toy is fantastic. It does so much in a relatively small space.
I have the DX version and it´s just wonderful; any chance to get this mold is a good chance. The DX T-Rex Megatron is also outstanding.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 10th, 2014 @ 4:50pm CDT
By "DX" do you mean the Telemocha Series DX versions or the Deluxe class scaled-down versions?Janus Prime wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Got that right. Still, it's unfortunate that he's less show-accurate this time around, despite using that head and chest.Janus Prime wrote:That Optimus Primal is a tough toy to top, he still holds as a figure almost 20 years later.
I don't hide the fact I'm not a fan of beast wars but I have to agree that Primal toy is fantastic. It does so much in a relatively small space.
I have the DX version and it´s just wonderful; any chance to get this mold is a good chance. The DX T-Rex Megatron is also outstanding.
Posted by Janus Prime on July 10th, 2014 @ 5:21pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:By "DX" do you mean the Telemocha Series DX versions or the Deluxe class scaled-down versions?
I own the Ultra-class Telemocha redecos. I love having the exact same molds that were available in the 90´s but with more show accurate paint jobs.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 10th, 2014 @ 6:03pm CDT
I've never actually seen any in-hand pics of those versions before, but the official stock photos make them look like the most show-accurate versions of those molds ever, minus their lack of the Beast Wars Reborn tooling. Had they included those, they would have been the numero uno perfect versions of those molds.Janus Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:By "DX" do you mean the Telemocha Series DX versions or the Deluxe class scaled-down versions?
I own the Ultra-class Telemocha redecos. I love having the exact same molds that were available in the 90´s but with more show accurate paint jobs.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 10th, 2014 @ 6:24pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Nope. Original pics were of the Ultra.Mindmaster wrote:Hold up... wasn't Primal supposed to use the smaller Deluxe-ish version of the mold?
Huh. Could've sworn it was the Deluxe.
The primary difference between Robot Masters and Beast Wars Reborn Convoys is in the hands. The larger original has closed fists, while the smaller remake has open hands:
I think he means the Deluxe sized one that was released under the Cybertron banner.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 10th, 2014 @ 6:27pm CDT
But that one isn't a "smaller Deluxe-ish version of the [Ultra] mold".chuckdawg1999 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Nope. Original pics were of the Ultra.Mindmaster wrote:Hold up... wasn't Primal supposed to use the smaller Deluxe-ish version of the mold?
Huh. Could've sworn it was the Deluxe.
The primary difference between Robot Masters and Beast Wars Reborn Convoys is in the hands. The larger original has closed fists, while the smaller remake has open hands:
I think he means the Deluxe sized one that was released under the Cybertron banner.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 10th, 2014 @ 6:53pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:But that one isn't a "smaller Deluxe-ish version of the [Ultra] mold".chuckdawg1999 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Nope. Original pics were of the Ultra.Mindmaster wrote:Hold up... wasn't Primal supposed to use the smaller Deluxe-ish version of the mold?
Huh. Could've sworn it was the Deluxe.
The primary difference between Robot Masters and Beast Wars Reborn Convoys is in the hands. The larger original has closed fists, while the smaller remake has open hands:
I think he means the Deluxe sized one that was released under the Cybertron banner.
Close enough no?
Posted by Sabrblade on July 10th, 2014 @ 7:14pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:But that one isn't a "smaller Deluxe-ish version of the [Ultra] mold".chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think he means the Deluxe sized one that was released under the Cybertron banner.
Close enough no?