The Ark In Transformers 3?

I knew it! I said so to myself when I watched the trailer. It feels good to be a dork.

Aside from merely being given the name, how is this the Ark?

We mustn't forget about this:


If the craft we saw in the trailer is indeed the Ark, then there must be two Arks in Tyran like how there are two Nemesis ships.

Just another franchise name being thrown around again, well at least they didnt name a con ship "the ark"

it's obviously not THE Ark since Prime and his crew aren't in it, but it's an element of TF fiction that's been lifted and adapted for the films. They have a crash-landed and dormant Autobot ship, why not make Transfans happy and call it the Ark? Just like we got Carley, even though she's probably not much like G1 Carley.

also:

Sabrblade wrote:We mustn't forget about this:


If the craft we saw in the trailer is indeed the Ark, then there must be two Arks in Tyran like how there are two Nemesis ships.

Micheal Bay doesn't read the comics, so... yeah

ok, in the bay-verse, transformers turn into commits in order to enter the atmosphere of a planet....so do they have ships that the jettison out of ? Or do they just travel space in in commit-mode ?

initially i though ah-ha its the Nemesis, you know cuz it on the moon and all.....
but then my other reasoning that in the bay-verse there are no ships kicked in and i noticed how the wreckage looked like a hand....

and nodes anyone else think the the gold trimmed bot' at the end looks suspiciously like SentinelPrime?

Even if it IS the Ark - what happen to storyline people? The writers better have a good reason that nobody at NASA came forth with this info in the last two films and why none of the other Autobots knew about it! I'll be posting a letter to 'Bay & Company' and my own teaser trailer, in a day or so, as something fun and semi-serious for us fans - since theirs did neither tease nor excite ...stayed tuned!

TFGnome wrote:ok, in the bay-verse, transformers turn into commits in order to enter the atmosphere of a planet....so do they have ships that the jettison out of ? Or do they just travel space in in commit-mode ?

initially i though ah-ha its the Nemesis, you know cuz it on the moon and all.....
but then my other reasoning that in the bay-verse there are no ships kicked in and i noticed how the wreckage looked like a hand....

and nodes anyone else think the the gold trimmed bot' at the end looks suspiciously like SentinelPrime?

I said the same thing about the Sentinel Prime thing. And maybe that is a hand. Maybe the ship is Omega Supream!

froneyzone wrote:Even if it IS the Ark - what happen to storyline people? The writers better have a good reason that nobody at NASA came forth with this info in the last two films and why none of the other Autobots knew about it! I'll be posting a letter to 'Bay & Company' and my own teaser trailer, in a day or so, as something fun and semi-serious for us fans - since theirs did neither tease nor excite ...stayed tuned!

I look forward to it.

froneyzone wrote:Even if it IS the Ark - what happen to storyline people? The writers better have a good reason that nobody at NASA came forth with this info in the last two films and why none of the other Autobots knew about it! I'll be posting a letter to 'Bay & Company' and my own teaser trailer, in a day or so, as something fun and semi-serious for us fans - since theirs did neither tease nor excite ...stayed tuned!

It wasn't meant to "tease" or "excite". It was meant to "announce" to the general public that TF3 is coming.

Burn wrote:

froneyzone wrote:Even if it IS the Ark - what happen to storyline people? The writers better have a good reason that nobody at NASA came forth with this info in the last two films and why none of the other Autobots knew about it! I'll be posting a letter to 'Bay & Company' and my own teaser trailer, in a day or so, as something fun and semi-serious for us fans - since theirs did neither tease nor excite ...stayed tuned!

It wasn't meant to "tease" or "excite". It was meant to "announce" to the general public that TF3 is coming.

Haha, come on dude, it tottaly was meant to tease and excite, as well as inform about TF3... 'teaser' trailer, man. Guess it just didn't do it for some.

Okay yes, it was meant to do that, but my point is, it wasn't aimed at the TF fan base like some people like to believe. It was aimed at the general public and did enough to inform them that it's coming and get them interested.

But for fans? Not entirely.

Burn wrote:

froneyzone wrote:Even if it IS the Ark - what happen to storyline people? The writers better have a good reason that nobody at NASA came forth with this info in the last two films and why none of the other Autobots knew about it!

It wasn't meant to "tease" or "excite". It was meant to "announce" to the general public that TF3 is coming.

Exactly. It was specially labeled an "announcement trailer", not a teaser. It's used to get the word out that something is coming.

As for the storyline, the first battle was covered up by the government. The second movie is kind of the "coming out". Lastly, as is illustrated in the trailer, NASA is kept out of the loop about the REAL reason for the moon landing. It is clear that Sector Seven got to the astronauts at some point and used their own equipment to jam the NASA equipment. It's as simple as that.

if it is the Ark, does that mean that's Noah Prime?

craggy wrote:if it is the Ark, does that mean that's Noah Prime?

Ba-dum-dum!

and this will make bays movie good how?

Remember the photos of Bay Filming TF3? Remember the ship Sam and That carly girl jumping on? That part looks suspiciously like the ship in the trailer...

The reason why the Autobots never said anything could be because it never came up or they didn't know it crashed there.

Ungie wrote:Remember the photos of Bay Filming TF3? Remember the ship Sam and That carly girl jumping on? That part looks suspiciously like the ship in the trailer...

I actually was thinking that...but that means that it either flies at some point or soomeone bringds it planetside. Shockwave maybe?

I figured as much. Works for me. I just kind of hope they spotlight the importance of the matrix a bit more/better/at all in DOTM. I felt it was a little sidestepped in ROTF.

Maby it's Aliens vs Transformers !

Ahum, probably not.

Maby that guy is Wheelimus Prime?

Again, probably not.

Though I wonder how it crashlanded on the moon?

Try this..., it's the Ark. The Ark name has been used hundreds of times in fandom for other ships that aren't THE ARK from G1#1.

Try this...., the Ark is a prison ship transporting prisoners to another planet to be treated much as the UK used Australia as. Rebellion ensues and it crash lands on the moon putting all transformers into stasis lock.

Millions (thousands..., hundreds..., 13..., whatever) of years later Astronauts discover the ship, and accidentally reactivate the computer which in turn begins reactivating the inhabitants. The prisoners win, and their leader is crafty, smart and hugely powerful already. He has his minions go out on raids to gather what he needs to build him a newer better body... OUT OF THE MOON!

Yeah buddy, I think that robot in the teaser is Unicron, we know Shockwave's in it I can see him being his lead minion, the fire truck is Ultra Magnus or Rodimus Prime who was put in charge of the prison ship. The scene we see that was filmed in Chicago (my home, but I didn't get cast as an extra despite standing in line for five hours )where they show Sam and Dempsey's character standing on a pile of rubble looking up is them watching as Unicron either comes to life, or is destroyed.

AND I HAVE NOTHING IN REALITY TO BASE THIS ON BUT WHAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!

-Joe

Okay guys - I like where this is going! And this is excatly why we have these forums - I just wished that we knew for sure that someone on Bay's team is reading these and that they 'get'...that they better not screw up this last movie for us fans with some confusing story line that doesn't fit at least with the first film (cause, we can easily ignore the 2nd and chalk it up to the writers strike and just enjoy as GREAT popcorn fun the way Bay knows how to deliver). Anyway, as far as the trailer being an announcement trailer (username Burn) I never got that memo? If you just google "Transformers 3 Trailer" every link states it's a Teaser Trailer, or even an Official Trailer for that matter ie:

http://teaser-trailer.com/movie/transformers-3/ cover-up

http://transformers-3-movie-trailer.blogspot.com/

And if it was for the general public like you say, and not for us fans, then what is the general public supposed to think? Well, they think it's the official Teaser Trailer of course and like username MINDVVIPE said - it was totally supposed to tease and get people excited! (thanks for backing me up dude!)

But that's neither here nor there - the main question still remains and TFGnome hit the nail on the head:

TFGnome wrote:ok, in the bay-verse, transformers turn into commits in order to enter the atmosphere of a planet....so do they have ships that the jettison out of ? Or do they just travel space in in commit-mode ?

initially i though ah-ha its the Nemesis, you know cuz it on the moon and all.....
but then my other reasoning that in the bay-verse there are no ships kicked in and i noticed how the wreckage looked like a hand....

and nodes anyone else think the the gold trimmed bot' at the end looks suspiciously like SentinelPrime?

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So, we just want to make sure for this last movie (if indeed it is the last) that everything gets tied together. So Ark or not...where in the world do the Autobots and Decepticons keep falling out of the sky from? Right now, we're just supposed to believe they are flying around in space like comets - that's all my point was. That, and the fact that 'Bay & Company' have so much GREAT footage they could have at least included something more in that trailer (like at least a glimpse of Optimus' trailer - we all know he has one now) whether it was an announcement trailer or not.

In the meantime - I'm still working on my fun/semi-serious letter to 'Bay & Company' and hopefully I'll post it up here later today with my own trailer!

TheCrookedMan wrote:Aside from merely being given the name, how is this the Ark?

You know, the same way Hugo Weaving + a giant scrapheap was Megatron.

TFGnome wrote:ok, in the bay-verse, transformers turn into comets in order to enter the atmosphere of a planet.

Right, and we can't do Dinobots because animal forms would be dumb. Oh, but we'll do a one-eyed mishmash of metal shards and call it Ravage, because that's awesome.

froneyzone wrote:Even if it IS the Ark - what happen to storyline people? The writers better have a good reason that nobody at NASA came forth with this info in the last two films and why none of the other Autobots knew about it!

You'll be waiting at least as long as it took to reactivate the G1 bots after their crash landing on Earth for that one.

Ok, that's enough Bay-bashing for now. Now I will rewrite everything I wrote in previous posts and pretend it all makes sense and is really very satisfying when you put it together if you were only a little more open-minded instead of being stuck on quaint ideas like continuity, coherence, and development.

Hey guys,

Posted this when the announcement trailer came out and I think I'm spot on the money now (if I do say so myself!).

The reason there are several different types of bodies on the 'crashed' ship is because Bay has taken a scene from the 80's movie and had the 'cons attack the Ark while in transit.

It wouldnt suprise me either, (and now I start speculating) if we see some fan favourites make an appearance in a flashback scene only to get iced like they did in the old movie. It was brutal watching my ratchet and ironhide get pwnd back then, it would be just as brutal to watch cliff and a few others bite it now!

My two cents

Actually, the nemesis was seen in ROTF crash landed somewhere near Saturn.


So, the Nemesis didn't do it, but then what did?

griftimus prime wrote:and this will make bays movie good how?

So, I take it you will be first in line to buy a ticket?

JetOptimus23 wrote:Actually, the nemesis was seen in ROTF crash landed somewhere near Saturn.


So, the Nemesis didn't do it, but then what did?

Here's my theory.

The Cybertronians are able to travel within a solar system with relative ease, and land on a planet by crash-down. However, for the huge spaces between solar systems, they can't provide sufficient energy themselves to traverse the emptiness without dying off. As such, they need stasis ships for those journeys- ships with the ability to exceed the known speed of light by huge amounts. To safely survive the jumps, the Cybertronians are put into Stasis- like the new bot in the announcement trailer- for the journey and automatically awakened by onboard computer and proximity sensors. In this case, i don't think that Cybertronians- unless they have a flying alt mode- are able to leave a planet's surface on their own. Or- as may be the case- the Autobots ONLY cannot leave an atmosphere of their own power- an homage to the original line that can't fly.

Just my guess.