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Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year

Transformers News: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year

Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 9:18PM CST

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We know from Deadline that Paramount has pushed back the release of Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts by a whole year. Instead of coming out in June 2022, it will instead be released in June 2023, the 9th to be exact.

What makes this more interesting than possibly any other film delay is that more than any live action franchise, the Transformers franchise always has a major toyline assigned to it, often taking up entire retailer areas, as can be seen below. And the Rise of the Beast toys are already ordered by retailers like Target, which have the toys already in their system, for a 2022 release date. You can see the whole list of toys here (they are in spoiler free code names). And as we had seen in previous toylines for films, like Godzilla vs Kong, Black Widow, ect, the fact that the toys were already in the pipeline meant they were released anyway. So knowing all this, is it possible that we still get that massive toyline in 2022 instead of in 2023 when the movie releases? We'll see, but this is bound to be interesting.

Transformers News: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by an Extra Year

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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2120769)
Posted by TulioDude on November 10th, 2021 @ 9:54pm CST
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Hopefully everything is okay behind the scenes,and they are just polishing the film.


Day 681 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2120770)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 10th, 2021 @ 9:58pm CST
High chances that the toys will look nothing as they appear in the movie. Remember the Beetle Bee? That was just within the normal timeframe. The movie producers could turn Scourge into a Skids-N-Mudflap duo riding each other's shoulders for all we know.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2120771)
Posted by william-james88 on November 10th, 2021 @ 10:08pm CST
TulioDude wrote:Hopefully everything is okay behind the scenes,and they are just polishing the film.


For over a year?! They are polishing Spider-man Far from Home right now and that film comes out in a month.

-Kanrabat- wrote:High chances that the toys will look nothing as they appear in the movie. Remember the Beetle Bee? That was just within the normal timeframe. The movie producers could turn Scourge into a Skids-N-Mudflap duo riding each other's shoulders for all we know.


Yeah, if they take that time to redo the bot modes to have a different aesthetic, then it will be like the toys from the first film. I am more curious about whether or not the toys will release next year or they will wait for 2023.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2120777)
Posted by Black Bumblebee on November 10th, 2021 @ 10:41pm CST
This is actually good news, toy wise, as it means that the priority will be on Generation molds, including molds that they might have ended up cancelling.
If they already have designs made for folks like Polar Claw and Gears (who we know were originally planned for Kingdom, but cancelled), they will try to use such toys to fill in the gap so as to fill space.
I would also assume more cases of repaints, alas.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2120787)
Posted by Bounti76 on November 11th, 2021 @ 2:03am CST
I guess that would explain why there are no ROTB Studio Series figures leaked for this year.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2120788)
Posted by Triggerdick Megatron on November 11th, 2021 @ 2:05am CST
TF7 delayed by a year???

Well that's just prime...


(I always wanted to say that :D )
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2120789)
Posted by Triggerdick Megatron on November 11th, 2021 @ 2:10am CST
Bounti76 wrote:I guess that would explain why there are no ROTB Studio Series figures leaked for this year.


SS ROTB toys won't be out until 2 or 3 years after the original ROTB toys like with Last Knight which had a toyline well before Last Knight Studio Series.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2120790)
Posted by Bounti76 on November 11th, 2021 @ 2:28am CST
Triggerdick Megatron wrote:
Bounti76 wrote:I guess that would explain why there are no ROTB Studio Series figures leaked for this year.


SS ROTB toys won't be out until 2 or 3 years after the original ROTB toys like with Last Knight which had a toyline well before Last Knight Studio Series.


I don't think that's how they're doing it anymore. The Bumblebee Movie released toys in Studio Series, rather than having its own separate line. It doesn't make sense to have a separate line anymore, then release "better" toys a few years later.
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Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 11th, 2021 @ 6:55am CST
Bounti76 wrote:
Triggerdick Megatron wrote:
Bounti76 wrote:I guess that would explain why there are no ROTB Studio Series figures leaked for this year.


SS ROTB toys won't be out until 2 or 3 years after the original ROTB toys like with Last Knight which had a toyline well before Last Knight Studio Series.


I don't think that's how they're doing it anymore. The Bumblebee Movie released toys in Studio Series, rather than having its own separate line. It doesn't make sense to have a separate line anymore, then release "better" toys a few years later.


Except the Bumblebee movie did in fact have a toy line, it just wasn't very large and shifted more towards younger audiences with the energon igniters skipping the regular deluxe/voyager figures that eventually went into Studio Series. That line was the only way to get TR Frenzy. That was the first movie release while Studio Series was in stores and was a bit different from past movies. But so far, it would also be the exception to what they have done in the past. It is anyone's guess how they will do things this time around
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Posted by william-james88 on November 11th, 2021 @ 7:04am CST
Triggerdick Megatron wrote:
Bounti76 wrote:I guess that would explain why there are no ROTB Studio Series figures leaked for this year.


SS ROTB toys won't be out until 2 or 3 years after the original ROTB toys like with Last Knight which had a toyline well before Last Knight Studio Series.


Last knight studio series doesnt exist
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2120806)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on November 11th, 2021 @ 7:12am CST
Maybe Hasbro's studied their supply chain problems enough to assume that RotB toys won't hit stores in significant numbers until about a year after their intended release?
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2120807)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on November 11th, 2021 @ 7:30am CST
this is most likely due to how poorly movies are doing in theaters right now. Opening night for Venom 2, first showing, 8 people in the theater. I almost didn't go myself because I was afraid to be packed in a crowded room with a bunch of people. My state has a lot of people that call the pandemic a hoax. So while the low turn out was good for me and let me have a nite out, it is decimating the box office take homes for big budget films. Given the state of Paramount, and their recent decision to abandon big blockbuster pictures, they are probably looking at how poorly movies are doing right now and freaking out.
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Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on November 11th, 2021 @ 7:45am CST
Immortal Starscream wrote:this is most likely due to how poorly movies are doing in theaters right now. Opening night for Venom 2, first showing, 8 people in the theater. I almost didn't go myself because I was afraid to be packed in a crowded room with a bunch of people. My state has a lot of people that call the pandemic a hoax. So while the low turn out was good for me and let me have a nite out, it is decimating the box office take homes for big budget films. Given the state of Paramount, and their recent decision to abandon big blockbuster pictures, they are probably looking at how poorly movies are doing right now and freaking out.


Venom: Let There Be Carnage had a $90 million opening weekend, bigger than that of the first film. Not a great example. But I do agree that this is probably pandemic-related.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2120816)
Posted by griftimus prime on November 11th, 2021 @ 9:09am CST
told you guys when the movie was announced they wont release on time. its paramount
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Posted by First-Aid on November 11th, 2021 @ 9:52am CST
Black Bumblebee wrote:This is actually good news, toy wise, as it means that the priority will be on Generation molds, including molds that they might have ended up cancelling.


I doubt it. This has more to do with supply chain issues than anything. It's actually really, really scary right now. Inflation is hitting record levels and will only increase as the supply chains tighten. This means less product, more demand, higher prices...a lot of economists are looking at the potential of superinflation now as a real possibility. This would be catastrophic globally. People have quit working and workplace participation is still at record lows despite rapidly inflating wages (another part of superinflation). There has already been an announcement of toy shortages for Christmas.

As for the pandemic causing this, not so much as government decisions to shut things down. Toys are nonessential and were shut down. Non-medicinal plastics were placed behind medical wares. Hasbro wants the toyline to coincide with the movie as research demonstrates higher sales of the toys, plus the toys also cause sales feedback into movies often, bumping ticket sales. It's a financial decision. In the end, what I HOPE it means is that when the toys are finally release, they will be extremely well-polished figures and as screen-accurate as current tech will allow them to be.
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Posted by william-james88 on November 11th, 2021 @ 10:04am CST
First-Aid wrote:In the end, what I HOPE it means is that when the toys are finally release, they will be extremely well-polished figures and as screen-accurate as current tech will allow them to be.


You won't get that. The ROTB toyline is a kids line like the BB movieline was with gimmicks.
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Posted by First-Aid on November 11th, 2021 @ 10:59am CST
william-james88 wrote:
First-Aid wrote:In the end, what I HOPE it means is that when the toys are finally release, they will be extremely well-polished figures and as screen-accurate as current tech will allow them to be.


You won't get that. The ROTB toyline is a kids line like the BB movieline was with gimmicks.


Not so sure on that, but can't rule it out. At the very least, we will see Studio Series I'm assuming with the ROTB release. The reason I'm thinking we will see more polished figures is that, with the additional year they may have longer exposure to the digital models they will be using in the movie. With the other movies, I tend to think that they just didn't have enough time with the actual 3D visual models used in the LAMs...hence the Studio Series reworking through all the characters with considerably more screen accuracy. Hopefully, we will get Studio Series-quality (or ACTUAL Studio Series figures) right off the bat rather than after the fact.
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Posted by william-james88 on November 11th, 2021 @ 7:58pm CST
First-Aid wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
First-Aid wrote:In the end, what I HOPE it means is that when the toys are finally release, they will be extremely well-polished figures and as screen-accurate as current tech will allow them to be.


You won't get that. The ROTB toyline is a kids line like the BB movieline was with gimmicks.


Not so sure on that, but can't rule it out. At the very least, we will see Studio Series I'm assuming with the ROTB release. The reason I'm thinking we will see more polished figures is that, with the additional year they may have longer exposure to the digital models they will be using in the movie. With the other movies, I tend to think that they just didn't have enough time with the actual 3D visual models used in the LAMs...hence the Studio Series reworking through all the characters with considerably more screen accuracy. Hopefully, we will get Studio Series-quality (or ACTUAL Studio Series figures) right off the bat rather than after the fact.


We already knew that we were not going to get studio series toys to go with ROTB when it comes out since we knew the entirety of 2022's SS line.
We might get them later.
BUT if they take an extra year to rework bot modes and change designs, then the SS toys planned will now be innacurste since it takes 2 years from designing to consumption for transforners toys.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2120860)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 11th, 2021 @ 8:18pm CST
super bummed that it got pushed a whole year. That is a long time
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Posted by Deadput on November 12th, 2021 @ 7:27am CST
Honestly I'm actually of the opinion that delays tend to be for the better until they get to development hell status.

The Bee film I believe had a smaller delay and that film turned out relatively fine, for this film I only see this as a net positive, too much crap in the last few years got rushed out and tended to be eh.

This has likely to do with current life events impacting the movie industry as a whole rather than any specific trouble with the films production.
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Posted by william-james88 on December 29th, 2021 @ 8:40am CST
Hahahaha, someone on TFW wrote this jokey prediction of what this film will entail and I'm pasting it here to see how close it gets to reality:

the maximals are going to be all spiritual and magical and shit and turn bumblebee in to a new hybrid vehicle/beast warrior the helps unite the two sides so they can work together and defeat giant stone robot.

Giant stone robot will be defending a skybeam coming out the top of some old inca temple. Scourge needs to the skybeam to summon Unicron or some shit.
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Posted by MaximalNui on December 30th, 2021 @ 4:12pm CST
Deadput wrote:Honestly I'm actually of the opinion that delays tend to be for the better until they get to development hell status.

The Bee film I believe had a smaller delay and that film turned out relatively fine, for this film I only see this as a net positive, too much crap in the last few years got rushed out and tended to be eh.

This has likely to do with current life events impacting the movie industry as a whole rather than any specific trouble with the films production.


"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad." - Shigeru Miyamoto.

I think the same applies to films, especially when they involve multiple VFX characters with (I hope) a significant presence.

william-james88 wrote:Hahahaha, someone on TFW wrote this jokey prediction of what this film will entail and I'm pasting it here to see how close it gets to reality:

the maximals are going to be all spiritual and magical and **** and turn bumblebee in to a new hybrid vehicle/beast warrior the helps unite the two sides so they can work together and defeat giant stone robot.

Giant stone robot will be defending a skybeam coming out the top of some old inca temple. Scourge needs to the skybeam to summon Unicron or some ****.


As someone who enjoys mixing usually opposite genres like science fiction and fantasy, and who unironically loves Beast Machines (as its own show, anyway; as a sequel it's terrible and way below BW), I actually think that's cool and would like to see it.

Minus maybe the Unicron part; try and bring/reference other great evils from the past instead of constantly relying on Devil Galactus-bot, will ya? I love the Unicron/Primus/Thirteen mythology, and even I'm getting annoyed over its repetetiveness.

Also cut it out with the skybeams.
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Posted by TulioDude on January 4th, 2022 @ 5:27pm CST
The CGI in this movie will be done by a new special effects company instead of the Industrial Light & Magic right?I remember seeing in the Seibertron news but I can't find the headline.

Day 735 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2125849)
Posted by william-james88 on January 22nd, 2022 @ 11:15pm CST
Ha, I ran into this news story I wrote just 3 years ago. Man, how times have changed

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ent/43075/
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 15th, 2022 @ 6:49pm CST
Today is a busy day! Following up on the first tease for the upcoming Nickelodeon cartoon Transformers: Earthspark, Paramount has thought fit to provide a small update on the big screen area of the Transformers fiction arena.

First up, Paramount writes the following when it comes to Transformers Rise of the Beasts :

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts will be released theatrically in 2023 and is the first of three new installments.


What this will mean for the story within those movies is unknown, but it is nice to know there appears to be a long term plan.

Second, Paramount cross-advertised the Nickelodeon cartoon, which is set to premier later in 2023.

Finally, Paramount has advised that a CG Animated Transformers film is still on the docket for 2024. While we get no further details on that movie, it is nice to know they are keeping us posted that it is coming.

You can check out the Tweet below where Paramount advertised this information, and let us know what you think in the comments section below.

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Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2127556)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on February 15th, 2022 @ 8:40pm CST
I really really hope they finally commit to rebooting the live action movies. Audiences are well familiar with the concept, and it’s sorely needed
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Posted by TulioDude on February 15th, 2022 @ 9:10pm CST
Glad to know they have confidence in Transformers.
I'm excited to know more!
:BOT: :CON: :PREDACON: :MAXIMAL:
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Posted by Sabrblade on February 15th, 2022 @ 9:20pm CST
Stormshot_Prime wrote:I really really hope they finally commit to rebooting the live action movies. Audiences are well familiar with the concept, and it’s sorely needed
It's as if they just can't let go of the memories of how much of a money-making goldmine each of the first four movies were.
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on February 15th, 2022 @ 9:27pm CST
They should have finished the Knight trilogy first.
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Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2022 @ 9:27pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Stormshot_Prime wrote:I really really hope they finally commit to rebooting the live action movies. Audiences are well familiar with the concept, and it’s sorely needed
It's as if they just can't let go of the memories of how much of a money-making goldmine each of the first four movies were.


Exactly. Plus, those films have a built in audience and people like familiarity. No point in alienating the audience.
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Posted by Stormshot_Prime on February 15th, 2022 @ 11:02pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Stormshot_Prime wrote:I really really hope they finally commit to rebooting the live action movies. Audiences are well familiar with the concept, and it’s sorely needed
It's as if they just can't let go of the memories of how much of a money-making goldmine each of the first four movies were.


Exactly. Plus, those films have a built in audience and people like familiarity. No point in alienating the audience.


That’s a good point. It’s just a shame that the continuity itself is pretty fucked by this point, but I guess as long as the movies bring in that money.
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Posted by MaximalNui on February 16th, 2022 @ 5:57am CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:They should have finished the Knight trilogy first.

Question is, would anyone see it? Bumblebee apparently already suffered in the box office from backlash over Last Knight's reception; I doubt a direct sequel would garner much sympathy even if it was better made.

Stormshot_Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Stormshot_Prime wrote:I really really hope they finally commit to rebooting the live action movies. Audiences are well familiar with the concept, and it’s sorely needed
It's as if they just can't let go of the memories of how much of a money-making goldmine each of the first four movies were.


Exactly. Plus, those films have a built in audience and people like familiarity. No point in alienating the audience.


That’s a good point. It’s just a shame that the continuity itself is pretty **** by this point, but I guess as long as the movies bring in that money.

Well, they'll have to at some point if they're making that Hasbro Cinematic Universe, otherwise it's the same "mesh together pre-established continuities and rush in new ones" mess from the Hasbro Comic Universe. Unless they already gave up on it.

Also, didn't TLK's performance prove that continuity isn't as successful anymore? At least not in their pre-Bumblebee approach?
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Posted by ZeroWolf on February 16th, 2022 @ 6:17am CST
There wasn't much continuity in the first place to be far, the fans cared for it more then the writers.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 16th, 2022 @ 6:54am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:There wasn't much continuity in the first place to be far, the fans cared for it more then the writers.


True that.

I'm all for a fresh reboot, Bee Movie being Episode 1 of the new series.
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Posted by Sabrblade on February 16th, 2022 @ 9:00am CST
The only real continuity that there was between the movies came primarily from the expanded universe tie-in material (comics, novels, webshows, etc.) that filled in the blanks for just the first three movies. And then AOE came along and tossed all of that out the window.

Though, I feel like TLK was as poorly done as it was on purpose, at least on Bay's part. He'd been wanting out of these movies since before DOTM, but Hasbro kept sending dump trucks full of cash to dump on his front lawn. TLK felt like he was trying to make a movie so bad that it would finally convince Hasbro to let him go (at least as a director, since he was still a producer on Bumblebee). I mean, putting Nazi banners on Winston Churchill's estate, of all things? The offensiveness of that decision had to be intentional. No sane, respectable person would have done that if they weren't trying to get themselves axed.
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Posted by noctorro on February 16th, 2022 @ 9:25am CST
Sabrblade wrote:The only real continuity that there was between the movies came primarily from the expanded universe tie-in material (comics, novels, webshows, etc.) that filled in the blanks for just the first three movies. And then AOE came along and tossed all of that out the window.

Though, I feel like TLK was as poorly done as it was on purpose, at least on Bay's part. He'd been wanting out of these movies since before DOTM, but Hasbro kept sending dump trucks full of cash to dump on his front lawn. TLK felt like he was trying to make a movie so bad that it would finally convince Hasbro to let him go (at least as a director, since he was still a producer on Bumblebee). I mean, putting Nazi banners on Winston Churchill's estate, of all things? The offensiveness of that decision had to be intentional. No sane, respectable person would have done that if they weren't trying to get themselves axed.


Haha lol, very sharp my friend.

Yes, Bay didn't care anymore with that last one. It's everywhere, I was extremely dissapointed and I watched Revenge of the Fallen.

But this whole, lets start a flippin trilogy. Get out of here, just make 1 good or at least decent movie. See how it's received and then a sequel.

Anyway, todays consumers vote with their wallets more and more. That's why nonsense like Star Wars etc. are slowely dying as a marketing strategy.

Good movies will be rewarded. Bad ones riding on nostalgia or pre established work by talented people will eventually crash and burn. It may take 3 movies to get there, but the people decide in the end. I refuse to watch the Last Jedi and it's on Netflix I think.

Just keep that Cybertron scene vibe from Bumblebee and just be good and creative.
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Posted by First-Aid on February 16th, 2022 @ 12:01pm CST
Here's an alternative: the next trilogy sets up the backstory to the end of the Last Knight and the potential emergence of Unicron. Then, after that trilogy, they resume after with the Unicron storyline. It allows the expansion on the background of Unicron and the menace he presents.
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Posted by griftimus prime on February 16th, 2022 @ 1:27pm CST
and none of them will release on time. also if this flops they will cancel them all. but hey go ahead and say you plan to make 3 of them
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Posted by MaximalNui on February 16th, 2022 @ 5:53pm CST
noctorro wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The only real continuity that there was between the movies came primarily from the expanded universe tie-in material (comics, novels, webshows, etc.) that filled in the blanks for just the first three movies. And then AOE came along and tossed all of that out the window.

Though, I feel like TLK was as poorly done as it was on purpose, at least on Bay's part. He'd been wanting out of these movies since before DOTM, but Hasbro kept sending dump trucks full of cash to dump on his front lawn. TLK felt like he was trying to make a movie so bad that it would finally convince Hasbro to let him go (at least as a director, since he was still a producer on Bumblebee). I mean, putting Nazi banners on Winston Churchill's estate, of all things? The offensiveness of that decision had to be intentional. No sane, respectable person would have done that if they weren't trying to get themselves axed.


Haha lol, very sharp my friend.

Yes, Bay didn't care anymore with that last one. It's everywhere, I was extremely dissapointed and I watched Revenge of the Fallen.

But this whole, lets start a flippin trilogy. Get out of here, just make 1 good or at least decent movie. See how it's received and then a sequel.

Anyway, todays consumers vote with their wallets more and more. That's why nonsense like Star Wars etc. are slowely dying as a marketing strategy.

Good movies will be rewarded. Bad ones riding on nostalgia or pre established work by talented people will eventually crash and burn. It may take 3 movies to get there, but the people decide in the end. I refuse to watch the Last Jedi and it's on Netflix I think.

Just keep that Cybertron scene vibe from Bumblebee and just be good and creative.

It probably didn't help the continuity that every film since Revenge of the Fallen had the same plot beat of "the Transformers actually were here in the past and changed human history", needing a new retcon for every new period they supposedly interfered with.

Though honestly, I blame the failure of TLK not (just) on Bay's usual hands off, "effects first story second" directing, but also on whatever exec decided to pick three different story pitches from the new writers room and cram them all into a single movie.

I also didn't feel as disappointed with TLK as I was with RoTF. Maybe it's because I heard so many people badmouth TLK and was expecting something worse, maybe it's because RoTF picked a part of the mythos I love (the Thirteen) and completely squandered it.
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Posted by william-james88 on February 16th, 2022 @ 8:09pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:There wasn't much continuity in the first place to be far, the fans cared for it more then the writers.


True that.

I'm all for a fresh reboot, Bee Movie being Episode 1 of the new series.


Bumblebee doesn't feel fresh enough. While I like the film as stand alone, it is also an origin movie for the Bayverse Bee many kids grew up with. Like how he lost his voice and learnt to express himself with the radio. And at the end he even transforms into a similar car that we see in the beginning of Transformers 1. Plus, he has the same Bayverse Bee face, it's all still too Bay for me to consider it a fresh start.

By the way, someone is posting what I am 100% sure is a purposely false rumour but oh man would this piss people off. Someone said, what if Scourge in ROTB is actually a future version of Bayverse Prime that came back to the past to ensure the autobots don't get whatever maguffin this film is about. Like that you can change the past (and future) but still preserve the Bay continuity, kinda like what Star Trek did.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 16th, 2022 @ 8:32pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:There wasn't much continuity in the first place to be far, the fans cared for it more then the writers.


True that.

I'm all for a fresh reboot, Bee Movie being Episode 1 of the new series.


Bumblebee doesn't feel fresh enough. While I like the film as stand alone, it is also an origin movie for the Bayverse Bee many kids grew up with. Like how he lost his voice and learnt to express himself with the radio. And at the end he even transforms into a similar car that we see in the beginning of Transformers 1. Plus, he has the same Bayverse Bee face, it's all still too Bay for me to consider it a fresh start.

By the way, someone is posting what I am 100% sure is a purposely false rumour but oh man would this piss people off. Someone said, what if Scourge in ROTB is actually a future version of Bayverse Prime that came back to the past to ensure the autobots don't get whatever maguffin this film is about. Like that you can change the past (and future) but still preserve the Bay continuity, kinda like what Star Trek did.


Kinda an interesting concept actually. If it turn out to be true, let's hope it will be better handled than the abysmal "Nemesis Prime" from TLK.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2127624)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 16th, 2022 @ 8:36pm CST
william-james88 wrote:By the way, someone is posting what I am 100% sure is a purposely false rumour but oh man would this piss people off. Someone said, what if Scourge in ROTB is actually a future version of Bayverse Prime that came back to the past to ensure the autobots don't get whatever maguffin this film is about. Like that you can change the past (and future) but still preserve the Bay continuity, kinda like what Star Trek did.
To me, that sounds like someone yanked that idea from the Nemesis Prime seen in Netflix WFCT cartoon: An evil Optimus from the future battling his heroic past self trying to change history.
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Posted by william-james88 on February 16th, 2022 @ 8:52pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:By the way, someone is posting what I am 100% sure is a purposely false rumour but oh man would this piss people off. Someone said, what if Scourge in ROTB is actually a future version of Bayverse Prime that came back to the past to ensure the autobots don't get whatever maguffin this film is about. Like that you can change the past (and future) but still preserve the Bay continuity, kinda like what Star Trek did.
To me, that sounds like someone yanked that idea from the Nemesis Prime seen in Netflix WFCT cartoon: An evil Optimus from the future battling his heroic past self trying to change history.


Oh for sure, it's just a joke to see people lose their shit.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2127656)
Posted by bluecatcinema on February 17th, 2022 @ 1:59pm CST
Let's just hope they stick with the trilogy idea, and not run it into the ground with more sequels like they did before.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2129304)
Posted by TulioDude on March 20th, 2022 @ 6:44pm CDT
Anyone else hoping to see a Barricade appearance?

Day 810 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2129307)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 20th, 2022 @ 7:42pm CDT
TulioDude wrote:Anyone else hoping to see a Barricade appearance?

Day 810 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

One can hope, he shows up in every other movie, so odds are in his favor right now
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 20th, 2022 @ 7:51pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
TulioDude wrote:Anyone else hoping to see a Barricade appearance?

Day 810 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

One can hope, he shows up in every other movie, so odds are in his favor right now
With how often these movies keep intending to kill him off yet never quite succeed in that department, who knows?

Was the robot character list we got before supposed to be for all of the ones that appear in the movie, or just for the main ones and not including any minor/background ones?
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2129316)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 20th, 2022 @ 7:54pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
TulioDude wrote:Anyone else hoping to see a Barricade appearance?

Day 810 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

One can hope, he shows up in every other movie, so odds are in his favor right now
With how often these movies keep intending to kill him off yet never quite succeed in that department, who knows?

Was the robot character list we got before supposed to be for all of the ones that appear in the movie, or just for the main ones and not including any minor/background ones?

Unsure, I have sort of been disconnected from the movie rumor news, so we will need someone else to talk about it. But i have a feeling it was a full character list, or meant to be, despite there being maybe 4 beasts listed only
Re: Transformers 7: Rise of the Beasts is Delayed by a Whole Year (2130027)
Posted by TulioDude on March 27th, 2022 @ 3:12pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
TulioDude wrote:Anyone else hoping to see a Barricade appearance?

Day 810 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

One can hope, he shows up in every other movie, so odds are in his favor right now
With how often these movies keep intending to kill him off yet never quite succeed in that department, who knows?

Was the robot character list we got before supposed to be for all of the ones that appear in the movie, or just for the main ones and not including any minor/background ones?

Unsure, I have sort of been disconnected from the movie rumor news, so we will need someone else to talk about it. But i have a feeling it was a full character list, or meant to be, despite there being maybe 4 beasts listed only


Barricade keeping appearing in between movies is really cool.

About the character list for Rise of the Beasts,I feel every movie since Revenge of The Fallen has huge character list,even if the main cast is smaller.Bumblebee is a goor example of this;you can describe the movie main robots to be Bumblebee,Shatter and Dropkick,with other Transformers being reserved for othert scenes.
That's what I imagine as a possibility for ROTB.
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Posted by william-james88 on March 28th, 2022 @ 9:10am CDT
Hasbro held a retailer and investor event to show what was coming up in the next 2 years and highlighted the upcoming Transformers Rise of the Beasts film. For Rise of the Beasts, they gave us a title card which features Inca styled carvings of Predacons and Maximals in their beast modes. We can see Optimus Primal, Dinobot, Scorponok, Terrorsaur, Cheetor, Airazor, one of the Spider bots, Rattrap and even Megatron in a fetal position at the very bottom of the circle where all these beasts are carved. At the far right and left we have profiles of Optimus Prime and Optimus Primal though these are of their WFC looks and not their movie look. That last part should remind everyone that this poster is not indicative of anything other than Hasbro wanting a nice backdrop to the logo which combines the themes of Cybertronians coming in contact with ancient civilizations, which has been an ongoing theme in the live action films. We still do not know if the Predacons will actually be in the film as substantial characters or merely a mention, like a wall carving. Hasbro also confirmed the release date being the June 9th 2023 and that it is a sequel to the Bumblebee movie. Here is exactly what was said by Jenny Whitlock, VP of Global Franchises at Hasbro:

“We’re partnering with eOne, Paramount, and a visionary new director to bring to life a Transformers story like you’ve never seen. The film will pick up after the events of 2018’s Bumblebee and follows Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, and an unlikely team of humans who are joined by a group of powerful new allies; the Transformers Beasts. The introduction of beast characters will be a significant moment for all. From kids to core fans, and especially those who grew up with Beast Wars in the 90s. Transformers: Rise of the Beasts raises the stakes and set us up for what’s to come over the next few years in our film franchise.”

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