Transformers: The Last Knight Optimus Prime and Other Vehicles Travelling in Michigan

If it isn't Hound....could that military vehicle be Breakdown(TF Prime) as it sure looks similar to his vehicle mode.

Stuartmaximus wrote:If it isn't Hound....could that military vehicle be Breakdown(TF Prime) as it sure looks similar to his vehicle mode.

There's no insignia on the grey military truck, so it isn't likely to be a tf

Ah but did Silas Breakdown have an insignia

Stuartmaximus wrote:Ah but did Silas Breakdown have an insignia

That doesn't matter.

Besides, altmode type is rarely ever a determining factor of character identity for the movies.

Yeah, like, aside from Evasion Mode Optimus I don't think there's a single character whose alt mode has matched up with their original incarnation - even in cases where, say, Bumblebee is still a car; it's a different type of car.
Which is fun, because it's nice to see new vehicle modes as long as it keeps to the spirit of the character. I actually prefer Ironhide having a pickup truck alt-mode to his G1 van mode.

Sabrblade wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:Ah but did Silas Breakdown have an insignia

That doesn't matter.

Besides, altmode type is rarely ever a determining factor of character identity for the movies.

i lost count how many times i said that simalr statement altmode type is rarely ever a determining factor of character identity for the movies

Stuartmaximus wrote:If it isn't Hound....could that military vehicle be Breakdown(TF Prime) as it sure looks similar to his vehicle mode.

That's exactly what I thought!

Z3ROhour wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:If it isn't Hound....could that military vehicle be Breakdown(TF Prime) as it sure looks similar to his vehicle mode.

That's exactly what I thought!

I'm glad someone agrees

Thanks

As best as I can recall it seems bay knew darn well that Calling Brawl Devastator was dimwitted and after the producers had been on his case about changing the other names like Prowl into Barricade. he likely couldn't be bothered to fix it.

Heck there is an air of lazyness about these Movies - have the still not changed the spelling mistakes in the 2007 Movie's subtitles for example despite multiple reissues of the movie ?

But yes Devastator should be changed as it makes zero sense to keep it like that when it's such an easy fix just a few frames need to be redone with some text saying "Devastator" - any anyone new to the franchise is going to wonder what the heck is going one when they see Revenge of the Fallen has a completely different Devastator.

It also show how terrified people are of loosing their job that they won't call the boss out when they are being a complete ass. but Don Murphy Tried the other Producers tried - he just ignored them... "As it sounded cool" or some such dipsh*t reason.

They couldn't even be bothered to name some of the Characters in the Movies that is how little they care about what they are doing.

It's not like someone would stand and scream bloody murder to defend these characters only one Japanese guy did for Optimus Prime (which did get his design improved) and oddly that guy seems not to have got hired for any of the following movies (at least as far as I've noticed).

There seems to be a lot of not giving a f**k going around in Movie production - which may be why the audiences likely care a lot less too.

I suppose the other joke is that they called Hound "Hound" when he's clearly designed to be Bulkhead. so they got the choice wrong again for the opposite reason by trying to be pandering to G1ers they shot themselves in the foot - I can't really see a sensible version of Hound being that Violent, but then the Movies don't allow for the Robots to have personalities other than that of robot killing machine.

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Anway if we were still getting Movie toys that didn't suck like in 2009 I would say I would like to see that Military truck turned into a Decepticon Breakdown in ROTF style - but since Hasbro seems to have long since fired anyone who knows how to make Transformers that seems unlikely.

Anway if we were still getting Movie toys that didn't suck like in 2009 I would say I would like to see that Military truck turned into a Decepticon Breakdown in ROTF style - but since Hasbro seems to have long since fired anyone who knows how to make Transformers that seems unlikely.

Whooooooa, gentle on the salt.

A). I must remind you that the movies are a completely DIFFERENT UNIVERSE. The writers, the special effects manager, the design manager, and (mostly) the director base these characters on their vision of what these characters would be like in "real life". If they want a gunslinging, bad mouthing, non-Hummer, Bulkhead-esque Hound, that's their right. That's were their creative vision takes them. True, Hasbro has to approve these characters, but they no doubt appreciate a different approach to their characters. As long as they don't royally screw them up (like make Bumblebee a 'Con), I think they don't care.

B). As for the "how to make Transformers", um... are these not convertible alien robots from a planet called Cybertron fighting a war? Or just not how you think they should be portrayed?

EDIT: C). Okay, so, after rereading your post, I must comment on one other thing. Yeeeeeeah, the laziness of the director is... sad. So, I want it to be clear that I'm only commenting on the quoted area. Also to be clear, I'm not condoning the poor planning, I'm simply making a point.

The thing about laziness is only opinion though. Michael bay probably puts his all into the movies, it's just you don't like his style. I also never get these reactions about the characters not being like their g1 selves, this was never going to be g1. These characters are just borrowing names.

I like some of the movies, they are far from my favourites and I acknowledge all their flaws but I will judge this new one when I watch it and then decide if I will support it more by getting the home release.

Oh and the thing about changing the name of brawl in the subs of the first film. If enough people kicked off over it then they would of had the masters changed but I'm guessing not that many actually do care.

.... I work right in Lansing....and travel 96 every day ...... how did I miss this?

ZeroWolf wrote:Oh and the thing about changing the name of brawl in the subs of the first film. If enough people kicked off over it then they would of had the masters changed but I'm guessing not that many actually do care.

I thought it was said awhile back that the reason the name "Devastator" appeared in the film instead of "Brawl" was that, while it was supposed to have been the finalized "Brawl" name, Bay left it as the preproduction name on purpose because he liked the name "Devastator" better.

Michael Bay is probably the most hard working director in hollywood. Did anyone see that most recent clip? He can manage this giant movie and still be in the closest proximity to the actors during scenes. George Lucas sure didnt do that in the Star Wars prequels. He was more distant, literally. Michael Bay is in the middle of it all and still able to manage the production at a macro level. Its a insane accomplishment. And remember that Michael Bay doesnt care about the story or the brand, he cares that it looks good and he definitely delivers. HOLY SHIT, did anyone really look at that finale in Age fo Extinction lately? It's the most insane action ever filmed (hell, so is that battle in the forest in ROTF). There is this gorgeous scene where Bumblebee crashed with Swoop into a glass building. And that builing was real (they covered the top in a green tarp) and it was glass, which makes things so much morecomplicated sicne you have all the refractory pieces. Its fucken nuts that he could pull off that shot and make it look part of the real world and not a video game. Its the best CG I have ever seen and you can actually follow the action quite well too (something he improved over the previous films).
I have nothing but praise to give to his directing, but damn I wish the writing was better and there was less focus on humans. But that has nothing to do with Michael Bay.

william-james88 wrote:Michael Bay is probably the most hard working director in hollywood. Did anyone see that most recent clip? He can manage this giant movie and still be in the closest proximity to the actors during scenes. George Lucas sure didnt do that in the Star Wars prequels. He was more distant, literally. Michael Bay is in the middle of it all and still able to manage the production at a macro level. Its a insane accomplishment. And remember that Michael Bay doesnt care about the story or the brand, he cares that it looks good and he definitely delivers. HOLY ****, did anyone really look at that finale in Age fo Extinction lately? It's the most insane action ever filmed (hell, so is that battle in the forest in ROTF). There is this gorgeous scene where Bumblebee crashed with Swoop into a glass building. And that builing was real (they covered the top in a green tarp) and it was glass, which makes things so much morecomplicated sicne you have all the refractory pieces. Its **** nuts that he could pull off that shot and make it look part of the real world and not a video game. Its the best CG I have ever seen and you can actually follow the action quite well too (something he improved over the previous films).
I have nothing but praise to give to his directing, but damn I wish the writing was better and there was less focus on humans. But that has nothing to do with Michael Bay.

THANK YOU.

Sigma Magnus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Michael Bay is probably the most hard working director in hollywood. Did anyone see that most recent clip? He can manage this giant movie and still be in the closest proximity to the actors during scenes. George Lucas sure didnt do that in the Star Wars prequels. He was more distant, literally. Michael Bay is in the middle of it all and still able to manage the production at a macro level. Its a insane accomplishment. And remember that Michael Bay doesnt care about the story or the brand, he cares that it looks good and he definitely delivers. HOLY ****, did anyone really look at that finale in Age fo Extinction lately? It's the most insane action ever filmed (hell, so is that battle in the forest in ROTF). There is this gorgeous scene where Bumblebee crashed with Swoop into a glass building. And that builing was real (they covered the top in a green tarp) and it was glass, which makes things so much morecomplicated sicne you have all the refractory pieces. Its **** nuts that he could pull off that shot and make it look part of the real world and not a video game. Its the best CG I have ever seen and you can actually follow the action quite well too (something he improved over the previous films).
I have nothing but praise to give to his directing, but damn I wish the writing was better and there was less focus on humans. But that has nothing to do with Michael Bay.

THANK YOU.

Yeah, he's got some serious skill and dedication, it's the writer's that I have problems with

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Michael Bay is probably the most hard working director in hollywood. Did anyone see that most recent clip? He can manage this giant movie and still be in the closest proximity to the actors during scenes. George Lucas sure didnt do that in the Star Wars prequels. He was more distant, literally. Michael Bay is in the middle of it all and still able to manage the production at a macro level. Its a insane accomplishment. And remember that Michael Bay doesnt care about the story or the brand, he cares that it looks good and he definitely delivers. HOLY ****, did anyone really look at that finale in Age fo Extinction lately? It's the most insane action ever filmed (hell, so is that battle in the forest in ROTF). There is this gorgeous scene where Bumblebee crashed with Swoop into a glass building. And that builing was real (they covered the top in a green tarp) and it was glass, which makes things so much morecomplicated sicne you have all the refractory pieces. Its **** nuts that he could pull off that shot and make it look part of the real world and not a video game. Its the best CG I have ever seen and you can actually follow the action quite well too (something he improved over the previous films).
I have nothing but praise to give to his directing, but damn I wish the writing was better and there was less focus on humans. But that has nothing to do with Michael Bay.

THANK YOU.

Yeah, he's got some serious skill and dedication, it's the writer's that I have problems with

But Bay has more control over that than you seem to think. It's his job to pick the writers and tell them what he wants in the story. The writers are often handcuffed to craft some semblance of story that exists only to link the action scenes together. Bay puts the cart before the horse, and that's on him.

JazZeke wrote:But Bay has more control over that than you seem to think. It's his job to pick the writers and tell them what he wants in the story. The writers are often handcuffed to craft some semblance of story that exists only to link the action scenes together. Bay puts the cart before the horse, and that's on him.

Not saying you're wrong, but the connecting dots style of writing is kind of ortzi and kurtzmans hallmark as far as I know - extending beyond the tf movies and into their other projects, and even their tv show they crapped on

JazZeke wrote:But Bay has more control over that than you seem to think. It's his job to pick the writers and tell them what he wants in the story. The writers are often handcuffed to craft some semblance of story that exists only to link the action scenes together. Bay puts the cart before the horse, and that's on him.

Its not his job, where did you get that info? His job is to supersee that the filming gets done. He doesnt even have final cut.

Also think about it guys, Michael Bay is a multimillionaire. He doesnt have to work for another day in his life. But instead of crackwhores and smack on a yacht, he decides to work 60 hours a week in crammed places eating shitty takeout to get these films done because he knows that if he leaves it to someone else, it wouldnt look as good. And we know what else is out there. The praised Bryan Singer tried making a CGI heavy film by himself and we got Jack the Giant Slayer, which was a mess. I cant think of any other film in the past 10 years, who's main attractions are CGI characters, that look as good as the Transformers films.

william-james88 wrote:

JazZeke wrote:But Bay has more control over that than you seem to think. It's his job to pick the writers and tell them what he wants in the story. The writers are often handcuffed to craft some semblance of story that exists only to link the action scenes together. Bay puts the cart before the horse, and that's on him.

Its not his job, where did you get that info? His job is to supersee that the filming gets done. He doesnt even have final cut.

Also think about it guys, Michael Bay is a multimillionaire. He doesnt have to work for another day in his life. But instead of crackwhores and smack on a yacht, he decides to work 60 hours a week in crammed places eating shitty takeout to get these films done because he knows that if he leaves it to someone else, it wouldnt look as good. And we know what else is out there. The praised Bryan Singer tried making a CGI heavy film by himself and we got Jack the Giant Slayer, which was a mess. I cant think of any other film in the past 10 years, who's main attractions are CGI characters, that look as good as the Transformers films.

He does have the control. He's the executive producer.

Dr Va'al wrote:
He does have the control. He's the executive producer.

A, hA! Right, I didnt think about that, I was just thinking of his role as director. Yes as producer if something doesnt work with him he can most definitely change it.

But does he have final cut? FOr the life of me, I cant find that info, would anyone know?

william-james88 wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:
He does have the control. He's the executive producer.

A, hA! Right, I didnt think about that, I was just thinking of his role as director. Yes as producer if something doesnt work with him he can most definitely change it.

But does he have final cut? FOr the life of me, I cant find that info, would anyone know?

Final cut as in editting or did you mean final say? Either way, I believe the point of an executive director is that they always have final say in matters if it comes down to it.

This is a great video, from a great source about it:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:
He does have the control. He's the executive producer.

A, hA! Right, I didnt think about that, I was just thinking of his role as director. Yes as producer if something doesnt work with him he can most definitely change it.

But does he have final cut? FOr the life of me, I cant find that info, would anyone know?

Final cut as in editting or did you mean final say? Either way, I believe the point of an executive director is that they always have final say in matters if it comes down to it.

This is a great video, from a great source about it:

Final cut is both literal and figuritive. He has the final say on what we see on screen. For example, Joss Whedon did not have final cut on Age of Ultron. They actually filmed an extended scene of Thor and his journey and even had Loki in it. He wanted to keep it but Disney said that he cold only have one slow tangent and it was either that or the Farm Scene with Hawkeye. So that part was cut against Joss Whedon's will. I am wondering if Michael Bay has similar powers that be looking over him and if he is as powerless or not.

Seibertronians, it's that time of the week again! It's the time where we stop and take a look at all the Transformers 5 The Last Knight stories we haven't reported on yet. So sit back, relax, and enjoy some new Behind the Scenes pictures, new videos from the set plus anything else that's happened in the bayverse this week.

Our first story comes to Seibertron from the TF5 instagram, where they've shared a cropped version of the official poster for the movie, which we reported on earlier this week, but with a cryptic new caption. Check it out below!

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Now, going to the opposite side of the social media spectrum, we've got a brand new 360° video from the Official Transformers movie facebook. This time it features a new, behind the scenes look at a Bumblebee Chase scene. With this video, #transformerstuesday seems to be becoming an actual thing, making Transformers fans anticipate next tuesday to see what they'll reveal next! Enjoy below!

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Making the jump back over to Instagram, Michael Bay has given us fans a little look into life in the Director's chair. There's a lot of hidden detail to be found in this clip, so see if you.can spot anything, and share it below in the comments!

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Our last two photos come from Josh Duhamel's Instagram Where he shared himself and his younger co-stars maintaining healthy habits while on set and...uhm...testing the pyrotechnics. Check both out below!

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And that does it for today's round up! Is there a piece of news we missed? Write to us or leave a comment below! Do you want more Bayverse news? You can find all of the other TF5 round-ups here, here, and here, and for everything else TF5 related, go to our specific Movie news section!

Keep it right here on Seibertron.com for the latest and greatest tranformers news on the net!

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:
He does have the control. He's the executive producer.

A, hA! Right, I didnt think about that, I was just thinking of his role as director. Yes as producer if something doesnt work with him he can most definitely change it.

But does he have final cut? FOr the life of me, I cant find that info, would anyone know?

Final cut as in editting or did you mean final say? Either way, I believe the point of an executive director is that they always have final say in matters if it comes down to it.

This is a great video, from a great source about it:

Final cut is both literal and figuritive. He has the final say on what we see on screen. For example, Joss Whedon did not have final cut on Age of Ultron. They actually filmed an extended scene of Thor and his journey and even had Loki in it. He wanted to keep it but Disney said that he cold only have one slow tangent and it was either that or the Farm Scene with Hawkeye. So that part was cut against Joss Whedon's will. I am wondering if Michael Bay has similar powers that be looking over him and if he is as powerless or not.

I'm kind of doubting Bay has similar powers looking over him, as he's not making a movie for the MCU. I'm pretty sure how controlling Marvel is over their movies is somewhat of an outlier case, as they want everything to fit together meticulously, and most studios aren't quite that iron-fisted.

Seibertronians, we've got some pretty big, (but quite random) news out of the Transformers Instagram. It seems like a fan-favorite G1 character will be making his Bayverse debut in TF5. It's Hot Rod! Check out his robot mode embedded below, and tell us what you think in the comments!

Not what I expected, but...interesting!

I don't know how to feel... I guess I'm glad that they're bringing in new characters but maybe it shouldn't me hot rod

That thing is ugly even by Bayverse standards. I'm happy that there will be a Hot Rod in Bayverse, but that design is
I wonder what the vehicle mode and model will be. I was really hoping that there would be a Rodimus in the movies, perhaps another semi truck, red with yellow flames. (A Bayverse version of Super-Link Rodimus Convoy would be awesome!) They did the flame paint job for Optimus, it would have been much more appropriate for Rodimus. Also, I suspected there will be a Hot Rod/Rodimus character in the next film ever since Judd Nelson was at BotCon.

stormcloud wrote:

That's...
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I'll put the swear words aside for now. On a positive note his shins match the IDW version of the character, which feels like a nice nod. Otherwise if you asked me to tell you who this is supposed to be a new version of I'd be hard-pressed to say; he doesn't have the flame deco, the wrist-gun-pipe thingies, the big spoiler... and they're really taking this "brother in arms with Bumblebee" thing very seriously since I am pretty sure that's just a recolour of Bumblebee's head.
To put it in a less-than-violent way, it's not a design I particularly care for.

Compared to some of the other Bayverse bots, this one is pretty tame. But seriously, not bad!

On a side note, is anyone else getting a distinct Bossk (Leia's Return of the Jedi disguise)vibe from his face?

Well, folks, to all of you who kept asking for them to add more guys to the live action movies whose names matched those who were introduced the 1986 movie, you asked for "Hot Rod" and now you got'em!

Hot Rod actually doesnt look bad considering its a Bayverse movie design. Just not much like Hot Rod, like was mentioned the shins/feet look cool but no arm pipes or spoiler wings is not. I also dont like the trend since the last movie where the bots dont show any sign of tires in robot mode.

This is huge.

SlyTF1 wrote:This is huge.

No, it's just another character reveal.

Burn wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:This is huge.

No, it's just another character reveal.

Of a massive character in Transformers lore.

Burn wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:This is huge.

No, it's just another character reveal.

Which is huge for movie news.

Character reveals are always huge.

Meh. They couldn't even get the colors right.

JazZeke wrote:Meh. They couldn't even get the colors right.

It's movie 5 you should not be surprised by now that colours are different from their g1 counterparts it's your own fault for expecting things that won't happen.

And it's good we can have a new interpretation of a character instead of copy and pasting a old design.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Burn wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:This is huge.

No, it's just another character reveal.

Of a massive character in Transformers lore.

Who may or may not be a massive character in the movie. You're assuming things based on the name alone, yet previous films have shown that a big name doesn't always make the character a big deal in their movie. For instance, Shockwave is a huge name, yet he was barely in DOTM. Grimlock, too, is a big name, yet he played no big role in AOE until its final 20 minutes out of what was almost a 3 hour movie, and said role was little more than being Optimus's fire-breathing horse.

We needn't have to get too excited about this reveal just yet until we find out more about what kind of role he'll play in the movie. For all we know, he could be a double agent who tries to assassinate Optimus for the Decepticons, or he could be a mere comic relief foil for the more main characters to play off of, or he could even only have a cameo appearance at the film's ending meant to build up hype for the sixth movie. Or he could even just be killed off shortly after his introduction just the shock the audience.

We simply don't know anything about him at this point, so there's not much to go on for now besides his name since he could have had any name with that design and still be the same character anyway. And with the films' history of using familiar names for different characters, it's anyone's guess as to whether or not he'll have any real importance to the film's story or if he'll be anything like the typical Hot Rod character type (beyond the rudimentary details we are given by this image).

stormcloud wrote:

I don't like that his backside is mostly uncovered/uncolored/unplated. There's nothing on the back of his torso, arms, or legs.

I'm ok with this design of Hot Rod. But if u guys look closely at the middle chest-piece & his "crotch", I wonder why they reuse parts from AOE Lockdown?? P.S.: Again, look closely at his torso & the center of his middle chest-piece, it appears he transforms into a modern Lamborghini. Still, I don't know which model are they using...

Sabrblade wrote:
He could even only have a cameo appearance at the film's ending meant to build up hype for the sixth movie. Or he could even just be killed off shortly after his introduction just the shock the audience.

1: why the hell would the reveal him now if he was just a cameo at the end of the movie would they not keep it a secret?


2: They have never done that with new Autobots in the movies EVER and why bother making a unique design for him with an expensive car mode to kill him off eh?



Why does no one think logically about stuff like this like Jesus Christ.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:I don't like that his backside is mostly uncovered/uncolored/unplated. There's nothing on the back of his torso, arms, or legs.

Yes there is it's the inside of the car like engines and wires and such.

He's a Lamborghini eh? Cool.
The engine block looks like it says Lamborghini on it.
Could be wrong.

edit: he appears to be a Lamborghini centenario.

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Burn wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:This is huge.

No, it's just another character reveal.

Of a massive character in Transformers lore.

Who may or may not be a massive character in the movie. You're assuming things based on the name alone, yet previous films have shown that a big name doesn't always make the character a big deal in their movie. For instance, Shockwave is a huge name, yet he was barely in DOTM. Grimlock, too, is a big name, yet he played no big role in AOE until its final 20 minutes out of what was almost a 3 hour movie, and said role was little more than being Optimus's fire-breathing horse.

We needn't have to get too excited about this reveal just yet until we find out more about what kind of role he'll play in the movie. For all we know, he could be a double agent who tries to assassinate Optimus for the Decepticons, or he could be a mere comic relief foil for the more main characters to play off of, or he could even only have a cameo appearance at the film's ending meant to build up hype for the sixth movie. Or he could even just be killed off shortly after his introduction just the shock the audience.

We simply don't know anything about him at this point, so there's not much to go on for now besides his name since he could have had any name with that design and still be the same character anyway. And with the films' history of using familiar names for different characters, it's anyone's guess as to whether or not he'll have any real importance to the film's story or if he'll be anything like the typical Hot Rod character type (beyond the rudimentary details we are given by this image).

I don't care what his role is. All that matters is that he's in the movie. That opens up doors for him to be in future movies, just like AOE did for Grimlock and the Dinobots. It's especially interesting that they described Hot Rod as Bumblebee's Brother-In-Arms, since Bumblebee's standalone movie is coming out after TLK. He now has a relative to play off of, so to speak; someone to relate to and interact with.

Deadput wrote:2: They have never done that with new Autobots in the movies EVER and why bother making a unique design for him with an expensive car mode to kill him off eh?

Jazz.

SlyTF1 wrote:I don't care what his role is. All that matters is that he's in the movie. That opens up doors for him to be in future movies, just like AOE did for Grimlock and the Dinobots.

Because that worked so well for Sideswipe, Arcee, Jolt, Skids...

Deadput wrote:1: why the hell would the reveal him now if he was just a cameo at the end of the movie would they not keep it a secret?

The same reason a lot of things happen in this brand: To Sell Toys.

And what would be gained by keeping him a secret when he's virtually unrecognizable as anyone familiar?

Besides, AOE treated the Dinobots as a big surprise reveal near the end and they were all announced as being in the movie early on in that film's major promotional campaign.

Deadput wrote:2: They have never done that with new Autobots in the movies EVER

Jazz says hi.

Deadput wrote:and why bother making a unique design for him with an expensive car mode to kill him off eh?

To. Sell. Toys.

And we're dealing with a new writing staff, so just because something hasn't been done before doesn't mean it can't or won't ever be done.

For someone who claims to be open-minded about the possibilities for the movies, you're not really being very open-minded about these possibilities, regardless or whether they will or won't happen.

Deadput wrote:Why does no one think logically about stuff like this like Jesus Christ.

I could ask yourself the same question, frankly.