Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images

Wednesday, April 6th, 2016 9:04PM CDT

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Thanks to the Botcon Twitter page as well as some of our own staff who are attending the convention, we now have updates regarding the special figures being released this year at Botcon! The figures are as follows:

-Megatron from Robots in Disguise 2001 Megatron ($89)
-Airazor from Legends Slipstream ($49)
-Tigatron from Botcon Ravage ($49)
-Unit-3 from the Dead End/Streetwise Mold ($49)
-Golden Ticket: Flash Sentry from the Legends class Shockwave mold (3-pack, $59)

We also have an image of the Flash Sentry and bio card courtesy of the Botcon Twitter page:

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Are you guys excited for Botcon? Ready for all the new and exciting stuff to come? Let us know in the comments section your opinions on all that is set to happen, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for all you latest Transformers News and Galleries!

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Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778619)
Posted by Dagon on April 6th, 2016 @ 9:08pm CDT

Would anyone at the show be able to middle man me a Megatron? Please please please?

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Posted by william-james88 on April 6th, 2016 @ 9:09pm CDT

Notice how its a 3 pack of reflectors? Supposedly, combining them together makes a camera.

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778621)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 6th, 2016 @ 9:12pm CDT

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Flash Sentry

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778622)
Posted by william-james88 on April 6th, 2016 @ 9:13pm CDT

Dagon wrote:Would anyone at the show be able to middle man me a Megatron? Please please please?

Its only one per person though, people cant take 2, maybe its better off waiting for them to be on the club's store, you'll pay less that way.

And you can get him on e-bay after since thats what many of these people are doing anyways.

Ratchet is already there:
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FTransformers-BO%20...%20SwjwlXBURH%3C%2Fa%3E%3F

It makes sense when you think of it but if one is not at Botcon or has made previous arrangements to get the figures, the best time to get a figure will be later when the interest has gone away.

Sorry for being such a downer though, if someone can help you I hope they pm you

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778624)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 6th, 2016 @ 9:17pm CDT

Ugh, more heads to add... Hey, is that Reflector head pretooled? Could anyone ask?

Question tho: Unit-3 being a car points to him being a member of the Maximal Command Security Force which Tigatron was part of as "Unit 2" (Unit 1 was dubbed Nitrostreak):

What colors does the toy have?

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778625)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 6th, 2016 @ 9:19pm CDT

Unit-3 is most likely Under-3.

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778626)
Posted by Railbomb on April 6th, 2016 @ 9:28pm CDT

That golden ticket figure is really underwhelming. I'm not sure what they could have done to make it better. I'm sold on all the souvenirs now except for the Reflector 3 pack. I'll have to see it first.

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778627)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 6th, 2016 @ 9:29pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:Unit-3 is most likely Under-3.

Booyah! - https://twitter.com/BotCon/status/717874435689156610

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778628)
Posted by Cobotron on April 6th, 2016 @ 9:39pm CDT

So does Unit-3 have a lion head? I can't really make it out in that pic.

...and don't worry Sabre, I got your MLP joke. :lol:

It was the first thing I thought when I read the name too.

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778629)
Posted by william-james88 on April 6th, 2016 @ 9:50pm CDT

Railbomb wrote:That golden ticket figure is really underwhelming. I'm not sure what they could have done to make it better. I'm sold on all the souvenirs now except for the Reflector 3 pack. I'll have to see it first.

But what you dont know is that you can combine the reflectors into a camera. This is actually combiner wars reflector and was meant for retail (so yes Jelze, its a pretooled head). They were meant to combine but instead of getting the 3 pack at retail, we got Shockwave who is the retool.

Devastator can hold the combined camera mode of reflector in his arms, that was the scale hasbro was going for. However, Reflector ended up being left as a botcon exclusive by Hasbro.

I have known this for a while now but couldnt say it. Its not because I am news staff that I got this info but because my friend wrote the bios. He was the one who came up with having Under 3 (aka Unite 3) be part of Botcon and he was the one who told Hasbro they should go with a Beast Wars theme this year. He wanted that McDonalds toy to finally get a decent toy. There is no lion head but the homage is that he has the same mold as tigertron so all the big cats (jaguar, tiger and lion) have the same mold in this Botcon set. He has a different head though. The toy colours are made to match the inner robot found in the lion head.

And yes the bio will reveal that his placement in the academy and army or whatever (I am not well acquainted with this) is tied with Tigertron.

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778637)
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on April 6th, 2016 @ 10:36pm CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ugh, more heads to add... Hey, is that Reflector head pretooled? Could anyone ask?

Yes it is

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778643)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on April 6th, 2016 @ 11:23pm CDT

Wait wait wait...BotCon has Reflector? And he's made from three Legends Shockwaves? And he can actually combine into a camera? and it's an official product?

First off, I want the crap outa this. Second, does that mean Shockwave can combine with two of himself into a camera?

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778644)
Posted by Va'al on April 6th, 2016 @ 11:44pm CDT

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Wait wait wait...BotCon has Reflector? And he's made from three Legends Shockwaves? And he can actually combine into a camera? and it's an official product?

First off, I want the crap outa this. Second, does that mean Shockwave can combine with two of himself into a camera?

Answers and updates coming soon.

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778645)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 6th, 2016 @ 11:52pm CDT

Wait till you guys get a load of the boxed set bios. One of them has implications in it that could potentially make a few heads spin!

Though, maybe not in a good way, depending on how ya'll feel about... well... uh... I'll get into more about this once the at-show staff posts pics of the bios (which I presume they will).

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778646)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 7th, 2016 @ 12:19am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:Wait till you guys get a load of the boxed set bios. One of them has implications in it that could potentially make a few heads spin!

Though, maybe not in a good way, depending on how ya'll feel about... well... uh... I'll get into more about this once the at-show staff posts pics of the bios (which I presume they will).

Talk about leaving us all hanging :MAXIMAL:

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778647)
Posted by Burn on April 7th, 2016 @ 12:33am CDT

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Talk about leaving us all hanging

Says the News Crew Stooge that often has access to information long before the rest of us. >:oP

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778649)
Posted by Henry921 on April 7th, 2016 @ 12:45am CDT

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Wait till you guys get a load of the boxed set bios. One of them has implications in it that could potentially make a few heads spin!

Though, maybe not in a good way, depending on how ya'll feel about... well... uh... I'll get into more about this once the at-show staff posts pics of the bios (which I presume they will).

Talk about leaving us all hanging

*Dons the Jack Bauer voice* TELL ME WHERE THE BOMB I- er, I mean, TELL ME WHAT YOU KNOW MAXIMAL SCUM.

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Posted by Bronzewolf on April 7th, 2016 @ 1:50am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Flash Sentry

Aaand they're both owned by Hasbro. Coincidence? I think not!

Yeah, to be honest when I clicked into this article I half expected him to be yellow and blue.

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778662)
Posted by Mindmaster on April 7th, 2016 @ 4:10am CDT

Reflector three pack that combines into a camera?

I'd sell my left nut for this. Time to see if I can get someone already there to hook me up!

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778672)
Posted by william-james88 on April 7th, 2016 @ 6:29am CDT

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Wait till you guys get a load of the boxed set bios. One of them has implications in it that could potentially make a few heads spin!

Though, maybe not in a good way, depending on how ya'll feel about... well... uh... I'll get into more about this once the at-show staff posts pics of the bios (which I presume they will).

Talk about leaving us all hanging

Its fine, I will tell you. Turns out Beast Wars Inferno is actually G1 Inferno.

Mindmaster wrote:Reflector three pack that combines into a camera?

I'd sell my left nut for this. Time to see if I can get someone already there to hook me up!

You can do this with 3 shockwaves too. They share the same alt mode so the look of the camera will be the same (I am assuming).

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778673)
Posted by dragons on April 7th, 2016 @ 6:50am CDT

Not fan of those FIGURES being repainted into non beast wars

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778674)
Posted by bluecatcinema on April 7th, 2016 @ 7:08am CDT

"Flash Sentry"? What's next, Sunset Shimmer?

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778676)
Posted by Evil Eye on April 7th, 2016 @ 7:20am CDT

Man, I'm actually pretty annoyed about this set.

>Finally get an official, 3-part combining Reflector
>It's a con exclusive

And don't even get me started on the MLP reference.

On the plus side, 3H Megatron is awesome. Please, Funpub, don't f*ck up the headsculpt.

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778693)
Posted by wordmongerer on April 7th, 2016 @ 8:52am CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Its fine, I will tell you. Turns out Beast Wars Inferno is actually G1 Inferno.

Not necessarily true. Just as there were two Beast Era guys called Silverbolt and a LOT of 'bots at the end taking the names of the fallen there is nothing to definitively say who BW Inferno was before BW, though he was a blank slate by the time of BW anyway so he could be made of G1 Inferno's parts. Or not. But it is certainly a possibility that did not exist before.

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778703)
Posted by Va'al on April 7th, 2016 @ 9:34am CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Reflector three pack that combines into a camera?

I'd sell my left nut for this. Time to see if I can get someone already there to hook me up!

You can do this with 3 shockwaves too. They share the same alt mode so the look of the camera will be the same (I am assuming).

It's also utterly rubbish.

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778706)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on April 7th, 2016 @ 9:37am CDT

Dr Va'al wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Reflector three pack that combines into a camera?

I'd sell my left nut for this. Time to see if I can get someone already there to hook me up!

You can do this with 3 shockwaves too. They share the same alt mode so the look of the camera will be the same (I am assuming).

It's also utterly rubbish.

Oh?...any pictures?

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778708)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on April 7th, 2016 @ 9:39am CDT

Dr Va'al wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Reflector three pack that combines into a camera?

I'd sell my left nut for this. Time to see if I can get someone already there to hook me up!

You can do this with 3 shockwaves too. They share the same alt mode so the look of the camera will be the same (I am assuming).

It's also utterly rubbish.

What?!? It doesn't look good in camera mode? Can somebody please post a pick of it in camera mode??? I'm dying to see how they combine :BANG_HEAD:

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778710)
Posted by Va'al on April 7th, 2016 @ 9:41am CDT

wordmongerer wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Its fine, I will tell you. Turns out Beast Wars Inferno is actually G1 Inferno.

Not necessarily true. Just as there were two Beast Era guys called Silverbolt and a LOT of 'bots at the end taking the names of the fallen there is nothing to definitively say who BW Inferno was before BW, though he was a blank slate by the time of BW anyway so he could be made of G1 Inferno's parts. Or not. But it is certainly a possibility that did not exist before.

Also, Will, please don't spoil the comic for people who plan on reading it at a later stage.

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Reflector three pack that combines into a camera?

I'd sell my left nut for this. Time to see if I can get someone already there to hook me up!

You can do this with 3 shockwaves too. They share the same alt mode so the look of the camera will be the same (I am assuming).

It's also utterly rubbish.

What?!? It doesn't look good in camera mode? Can somebody please post a pick of it in camera mode??? I'm dying to see how they combine

No images until we have the green light from FunPub. Galleries will be ready and live later today.

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778712)
Posted by Mindmaster on April 7th, 2016 @ 9:44am CDT

Dr Va'al wrote:
wordmongerer wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Its fine, I will tell you. Turns out Beast Wars Inferno is actually G1 Inferno.

Not necessarily true. Just as there were two Beast Era guys called Silverbolt and a LOT of 'bots at the end taking the names of the fallen there is nothing to definitively say who BW Inferno was before BW, though he was a blank slate by the time of BW anyway so he could be made of G1 Inferno's parts. Or not. But it is certainly a possibility that did not exist before.

Also, Will, please don't spoil the comic for people who plan on reading it at a later stage.

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Reflector three pack that combines into a camera?

I'd sell my left nut for this. Time to see if I can get someone already there to hook me up!

You can do this with 3 shockwaves too. They share the same alt mode so the look of the camera will be the same (I am assuming).

It's also utterly rubbish.

What?!? It doesn't look good in camera mode? Can somebody please post a pick of it in camera mode??? I'm dying to see how they combine

No images until we have the green light from FunPub. Galleries will be ready and live later today.

Blargh, too long! :-P

Well, if the camera mode is rubbish, it's a good thing I had planned on displaying them in their robot modes, then!

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778713)
Posted by no-one on April 7th, 2016 @ 9:47am CDT

Burn wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Talk about leaving us all hanging

Says the News Crew Stooge that often has access to information long before the rest of us.

Shhhhhhh....... :-$

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778723)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 7th, 2016 @ 9:58am CDT

I'm back, and I see that the boxed set bios have been posted. What I was referring to before wasn't related to Inferno (I know not what that's all about), but instead pertains to Cicadacon.

Check out what his bio and Sea Clamp's bio say about Cicadacon:

"Emotionless Decepticon who conducted experiments on his fellow Decepticons and was almost killed by Unicron in 2005."

Sound familiar?

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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 7th, 2016 @ 10:01am CDT

By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming :MAXIMAL:

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Posted by Sabrblade on April 7th, 2016 @ 10:02am CDT

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming

It never should have come. >:oP

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778727)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 7th, 2016 @ 10:03am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming
It never should have come.

that is very strange and just wow. Talk about turning cons into Preds :MAXIMAL:

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Posted by Sigma Magnus on April 7th, 2016 @ 10:05am CDT

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming
It never should have come.

that is very strange and just wow. Talk about turning cons into Preds

...please, forgive my ignorance, but I seem to not be understanding this. Could someone fill me in?

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778732)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 7th, 2016 @ 10:08am CDT

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming
It never should have come.

that is very strange and just wow. Talk about turning cons into Preds

It doesn't even feel necessary. Or even make that much sense. It feels like just another attempt to cram even more G1 stuff into Beast Wars, only more haphazardly than ever.

And the bit about the Cicadacon being one of the earliest Cybertronians to come online would then make his true self old as dirt. Like, Alpha Trion-old, which was never before given to be the case about that guy.

Sigma Magnus wrote:...please, forgive my ignorance, but I seem to not be understanding this. Could someone fill me in?

These bios seem to be implying that Cicadacon is Shockwave.

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Posted by Midnight_Fox on April 7th, 2016 @ 10:09am CDT

Sigma Magnus wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming
It never should have come.

that is very strange and just wow. Talk about turning cons into Preds

...please, forgive my ignorance, but I seem to not be understanding this. Could someone fill me in?

The bio is insinuating that Cicadacon is Shockwave(or rather that Shockwave was an amnesia induced shell program of a wounded pre-war Cicadacon).

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Posted by william-james88 on April 7th, 2016 @ 10:09am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:"Emotionless Decepticon who conducted experiments on his fellow Decepticons and was almost killed by Unicron in 2005."

Sound familiar?

Shockwave? What does that make the other one?

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Posted by Hellscream9999 on April 7th, 2016 @ 10:09am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming
It never should have come.

Which I find odd, since tarantulas says that in BW destroying the ark wouldn't damage the council because his origins and the councils are from 'somewhere else' which I always took to mean Unicron, which Megatron references at some point too. But the bw comic universe isn't canon to the bw show universe, so I guess it doesn't matter :HEADHURTS:

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778737)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on April 7th, 2016 @ 10:11am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Sigma Magnus wrote:...please, forgive my ignorance, but I seem to not be understanding this. Could someone fill me in?
These bios seem to be implying that Cicadacon is Shockwave.

...wow. I...don't really know how to feel about that...

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Posted by Midnight_Fox on April 7th, 2016 @ 10:12am CDT

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming
It never should have come.

Which I find odd, since tarantulas says that in BW destroying the ark wouldn't damage the council because his origins and the councils are from 'somewhere else' which I always took to mean Unicron, which Megatron references at some point too. But the bw comic universe isn't canon to the bw show universe, so I guess it doesn't matter

First, the whole "Spawn of Unicron" thing in the show was meant to be an insult that the fandom(and later media) decided to take on face value. It was another "this show is connected to that earlier one!" mentions that they loved doing and we fans/nerds had to be ourselves and get all pedantic and literal about it.

Secondly, these bios are suggesting that they DO have different origins from the rest of the Predacons by being part of the original generation of pre-faction Cybertronians.

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Posted by wordmongerer on April 7th, 2016 @ 10:13am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
"Emotionless Decepticon who conducted experiments on his fellow Decepticons and was almost killed by Unicron in 2005."

Sound familiar?

He could be (at least in a former life) who you are thinking of, but he may not be... There are pieces of the puzzle that haven't been revealed, but the BW Sourcebooks say they were Decepticons and BW the cartoon says they had an origin that was not tied to the destiny of the Decepticons... Only Cicadacon knows who he really is...

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Posted by Hellscream9999 on April 7th, 2016 @ 10:14am CDT

Midnight_Fox wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming
It never should have come.

Which I find odd, since tarantulas says that in BW destroying the ark wouldn't damage the council because his origins and the councils are from 'somewhere else' which I always took to mean Unicron, which Megatron references at some point too. But the bw comic universe isn't canon to the bw show universe, so I guess it doesn't matter

First, the whole "Spawn of Unicron" thing in the show was meant to be an insult that the fandom(and later media) decided to take on face value.

Secondly, these bios are suggesting that they DO have different origins from the rest of the Predacons by being part of the original generation of pre-faction Cybertronians.

Well, it made sense to me, and it made sense with the narrative, I'd sooner believe they were descended from Unicron than this shoe-horned, ret-conned bs >:oP

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Posted by Midnight_Fox on April 7th, 2016 @ 10:17am CDT

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Midnight_Fox wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:By Primus..... Cicadacon is.... really......

did not see that coming
It never should have come.

Which I find odd, since tarantulas says that in BW destroying the ark wouldn't damage the council because his origins and the councils are from 'somewhere else' which I always took to mean Unicron, which Megatron references at some point too. But the bw comic universe isn't canon to the bw show universe, so I guess it doesn't matter

First, the whole "Spawn of Unicron" thing in the show was meant to be an insult that the fandom(and later media) decided to take on face value.

Secondly, these bios are suggesting that they DO have different origins from the rest of the Predacons by being part of the original generation of pre-faction Cybertronians.

Well, it made sense to me, and it made sense with the narrative, I'd sooner believe they were descended from Unicron than this shoe-horned, ret-conned bs

I'm honestly and personally ok with them having Unicronian origins, truth be told. I've never been all that invested in BW, so I'm not to fussed. I'm going to be ignoring these bios anyway to fit them into my personal fanon where their origins are still left unexplored and mysterious(for the time being).

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Posted by william-james88 on April 7th, 2016 @ 10:18am CDT

Woah wait hold on a sec guys, how does this really change anything? Isnt Botcon fiction in its own universe, just like IDW is seperate from G1. These are ust G1 inspired stories and bios that live on in their own world. Its just a take on things. Doesnt mean that the same Shockwave from the G1 comics of he G1 show is now Cicadon.

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Posted by Sigma Magnus on April 7th, 2016 @ 10:19am CDT

william-james88 wrote:Woah wait hold on a sec guys, how does this really change anything? Isnt Botcon fiction in its own universe, just like IDW is seperate from G1. These are ust G1 inspired stories and bios that live on in their own world. Its just a take on things. Doesnt mean that the same Shockwave from the G1 comics of he G1 show is now Cicadon.

Good point, good point...

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Posted by Sabrblade on April 7th, 2016 @ 10:23am CDT

william-james88 wrote:Woah wait hold on a sec guys, how does this really change anything? Isnt Botcon fiction in its own universe, just like IDW is seperate from G1.

This comic is in continuity with the IDW Beast Wars comics (The Gathering, The Ascending, and the Sourcebook), which themselves are in a universe that includes the Beast Wars and Beast Machines cartoons (but not the 3H or other Fun Pub Beast Era media).

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778755)
Posted by william-james88 on April 7th, 2016 @ 10:27am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Woah wait hold on a sec guys, how does this really change anything? Isnt Botcon fiction in its own universe, just like IDW is seperate from G1.
This comic is in continuity with the IDW Beast Wars comics (The Gathering, The Ascending, and the Sourcebook), which themselves are in a universe that includes the Beast Wars and Beast Machines cartoons (but not the 3H or other Fun Pub Beast Era media).

Ok then how come pre beast tigetron has a beast head?

Also with these bios, does it mean taht Ramhorn is G1 Ramhorn? I mean it is a rhinocerous beetle :lol:

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778756)
Posted by Mindmaster on April 7th, 2016 @ 10:29am CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Woah wait hold on a sec guys, how does this really change anything? Isnt Botcon fiction in its own universe, just like IDW is seperate from G1.
This comic is in continuity with the IDW Beast Wars comics (The Gathering, The Ascending, and the Sourcebook), which themselves are in a universe that includes the Beast Wars and Beast Machines cartoons (but not the 3H or other Fun Pub Beast Era media).

Ok then how come pre beast tigetron has a beast head?

Also with these bios, does it mean taht Ramhorn is G1 Ramhorn? I mean it is a rhinocerous beetle

Wouldn't surprise me if he were a version of Jhiaxus, honestly. That'd be dope. 8-)

Re: Botcon Exclusives Revealed: Character Names, Molds, Flash Sentry Images (1778757)
Posted by william-james88 on April 7th, 2016 @ 10:30am CDT

Mindmaster wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Woah wait hold on a sec guys, how does this really change anything? Isnt Botcon fiction in its own universe, just like IDW is seperate from G1.
This comic is in continuity with the IDW Beast Wars comics (The Gathering, The Ascending, and the Sourcebook), which themselves are in a universe that includes the Beast Wars and Beast Machines cartoons (but not the 3H or other Fun Pub Beast Era media).

Ok then how come pre beast tigetron has a beast head?

Also with these bios, does it mean taht Ramhorn is G1 Ramhorn? I mean it is a rhinocerous beetle

Wouldn't surprise me if he were a version of Jhiaxus, honestly. That'd be dope.

Was Jihaxus an autobot? I think the ramhorn bio said he was once an autobot.

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