Rumour: Transformers Titans Return Blitzwing, Octane, Seaspray, Toraizer, Ramhorn Found on Store Computer

I'm excited for Seaspray. Cosmos again?

And yay for Octane. Still will need to see Blitzwing before I make a decision about him.

Also really glad the masterforce guys are being made. That is way cool

steals_your_goats wrote:Tidal wave is actually supposed to be part of the strength set which is most likely a special box set with the decepticon clones, a repaint of Powermaster prime, and iron apex. Then there's the speed set with Nautica the autobot clones, quickswitch and a Voyager.

Is this supposed to be like a platinum set or something? I really don't want to have to buy Nautica as a platinum/box set like that

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Tidal wave is actually supposed to be part of the strength set which is most likely a special box set with the decepticon clones, a repaint of Powermaster prime, and iron apex. Then there's the speed set with Nautica the autobot clones, quickswitch and a Voyager.

Is this supposed to be like a platinum set or something? I really don't want to have to buy Nautica as a platinum/box set like that

No one knows yet it's all just best guesses. I doubt it'll be a platinum set, it's more likely going to be similar to the combiner wars g2, Victorion and Computron sets.

steals_your_goats wrote:Tidal wave is actually supposed to be part of the strength set which is most likely a special box set with the decepticon clones, a repaint of Powermaster prime, and iron apex. Then there's the speed set with Nautica the autobot clones, quickswitch and a Voyager.

Could you give me a quote or a link to where that info comes from?

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I'm excited for Seaspray. Cosmos again?

And yay for Octane. Still will need to see Blitzwing before I make a decision about him.

Also really glad the masterforce guys are being made. That is way cool

Since I pre-ordered UW Computron from BBTS, I was heavily leaning toward adding Cosmos to my POL to spread out the shipping cost. Now I'll need to see the TR version first to make a decision.

I was never a huge fan of Seaspray, but will have to grab it for the collection.

steals_your_goats wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Tidal wave is actually supposed to be part of the strength set which is most likely a special box set with the decepticon clones, a repaint of Powermaster prime, and iron apex. Then there's the speed set with Nautica the autobot clones, quickswitch and a Voyager.

Is this supposed to be like a platinum set or something? I really don't want to have to buy Nautica as a platinum/box set like that

No one knows yet it's all just best guesses. I doubt it'll be a platinum set, it's more likely going to be similar to the combiner wars g2, Victorion and Computron sets.

I may hold off on PM Prime then if there is a box set coming

A seperate post for a seperate idea. This interview has John Warden state that the whole concept of retools has changed since CW. Now they plan the whole line out and see what they can do. So its no longer putting new heads on the same body (aside from when its exactly that). And I like how he uses the word pretool, which means its part of the Hasbro lexicon now. You can see that at the 2 minute mark. Personally, I much preffer the idea of parts sharing to make different figures rather than have a main mold that is then retooled.

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Tidal wave is actually supposed to be part of the strength set which is most likely a special box set with the decepticon clones, a repaint of Powermaster prime, and iron apex. Then there's the speed set with Nautica the autobot clones, quickswitch and a Voyager.

Could you give me a quote or a link to where that info comes from?

Please do, this is a really interesting idea if there are three deluxes, a voyager, and leader per boxset

So then Titan Master Ramhorn is to counter Overboard/Overkill then. Hopefully that means we have a rhino partner vehicle coming.

I really hope the whole box set thing is someone trolling because that sounds like a terrible idea. Combiners are one thing since ideally you'd want a complete set, but shoehorning random characters together to make teams of exclusive characters is just terrible.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:I really hope the whole box set thing is someone trolling because that sounds like a terrible idea. Combiners are one thing since ideally you'd want a complete set, but shoehorning random characters together to make teams of exclusive characters is just terrible.

Emerje

I agree. I don't want several characters like that to only be in a box set when I want them separate.

The Titan Master class Optimus Prime could be the Star Convoy-based head that was supposed to come with the Voyager in addition to the G1 Laser OP head that it does come with (despite the Voyager sporting a more Star Convoy-based deco in its robot mode)

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Emerje wrote:I really hope the whole box set thing is someone trolling because that sounds like a terrible idea. Combiners are one thing since ideally you'd want a complete set, but shoehorning random characters together to make teams of exclusive characters is just terrible.

Emerje

I agree. I don't want several characters like that to only be in a box set when I want them separate.

You guys talking about botcon sets?

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Emerje wrote:I really hope the whole box set thing is someone trolling because that sounds like a terrible idea. Combiners are one thing since ideally you'd want a complete set, but shoehorning random characters together to make teams of exclusive characters is just terrible.

Emerje

I agree. I don't want several characters like that to only be in a box set when I want them separate.

You guys talking about botcon sets?

When you say it like that, it sounds terrible. But these aren't the higher end collectibles of Botcon. It's like a big box of characters at around their combined retail price. That just stinks to me

There's some cool stuff here, but they are ruining Ramhorn after they already ruined Apeface... :/

I legit don't care for the Titan Master class as a whole....

Awesome, a reuse of the lione figure, that's great, love me an evil tiger shield

That Cosmos annoys me because of this whole trend of re-making guys they just did already, but at the same time he's the one I'm most interested in seeing...

Noideaforaname wrote:That Cosmos annoys me because of this whole trend of re-making guys they just did already, but at the same time he's the one I'm most interested in seeing...

But it also means another chance for a solo retail Scrounge

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Emerje wrote:I really hope the whole box set thing is someone trolling because that sounds like a terrible idea. Combiners are one thing since ideally you'd want a complete set, but shoehorning random characters together to make teams of exclusive characters is just terrible.

Emerje

I agree. I don't want several characters like that to only be in a box set when I want them separate.

You guys talking about botcon sets?

That's not an entirely fair comparison. Sure, BotCon made a lot of neat stuff, but rarely anything I felt I must have to complete a retail collection. Not after the Games of Deception set which Hasbro had to back pedal on and redo half the characters for retail. BotCon sets work since they're often standalone sets, but to do what's described with mashing new characters together with better painted versions of figures I already own is the wrong way to do things.

I feel like Cosmos will leave a lot of people disappointed. Think about it, there's only two ways for them to do him in this line: either he'll be compromised to fit a Titan Master inside him, or he'll turn into a mobile device to stick in Blaster's chest. Neither of those options sound too great to me.

Emerje

Ok, time to recap the rumored figures:

Titan Master Class
Repugnus
Optimus Prime
Ramhorn
Shuffler
Trizer/Toraizer

Legends Class
Cosmos
Seaspray

I believe Legends Brawn was debunked as a communication error.

Deluxe Class
Quake
Krok
Topspin
Sergeant Kup
Perceptor

Voyager Class
Broadside
Blitzwing
Octane/Tankor
Tidal Wave with Powerhouse

Wait... as we never had a G1 Tidal Wave, and lost trademarks are plentiful in TR, wouldn't it be possible that Tidal Wave is Broadside's new name?

Leader Class
Magnus Prime

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I believe Legends Brawn was debunked as a communication error.

If I remember right, since Brawn and Gnaw were both planned as Legends originally (and canceled) whoever leaked the names assumed that would still be true for Titans Return. I think someone else said that Hasbro said the missing Legends figures would be released soon which added to the confusion until Titan Master Brawn was revealed.

Emerje

Some interesting stuff here though some of it was obvious, like the triple changers. Though talking about them, last time we had octane he was renamed tankor (giving us thin tankor in IDW) So have they got the rights back for that name? I mean it doesn't bother me if he is tankor but it's a curious thing.

Also these rumoured box sets, aren't the autobot heroes platinum sets a similar composition? I.e. A leader class, a voyager class 2-3 deluxes?

Why would Galvatron be rereleased

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I believe Legends Brawn was debunked as a communication error.

It hasn't been debunked anymore than it's been confirmed. The miscommunication thing was speculation

Tidal Wave with Powerhouse

Powerhouse is not Tidal waves titan master. Powerhouse is a die cast exclusive titan master not associated with a full body

Leader Class
Magnus Prime

You forgot quickswitch and Overlord

As far As the box set rumors go every rumor that's been released so far is here http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/1046898-transmissions-podcast-titan-wars-leaks-rumors.html and the strength and speed rumors are at the episode 157 point and goes down. The post says they're lines but when listening to the actual podcast it's unclear how they're being released, box set makes the most sense to me though. They also talk about a Voyager optimus in the speed set but I think that too is a mistake.

Bumblebee21 wrote:Why would Galvatron be rereleased

It's just what Hasbro does for different waves. For instance, the recent Wave 2 has their Leader class be made up of Soundwave and a Powermaster Prime re-release. Fills up the assortments.



I really hope that boxset thing is fake. I don't want to have to get two more deluxes, a voyager and a frikkin' leader just to get Nautica, especially when I couldn't care less about Quickswitch and the autobot clones. I'm sure they'll be great toys, but I'm kind of on a budget and want to prioritise MTMTE. If they're really gonna do this I'm actually gonna be a little angry.

cool beans

steals_your_goats wrote:As far As the box set rumors go every rumor that's been released so far is here http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/1046898-transmissions-podcast-titan-wars-leaks-rumors.html and the strength and speed rumors are at the episode 157 point and goes down. The post says they're lines but when listening to the actual podcast it's unclear how they're being released, box set makes the most sense to me though. They also talk about a Voyager optimus in the speed set but I think that too is a mistake.

Wait, it says items 3-5 + Voyager Prime. Nautica is listed as item 6.

Logan79 wrote:Not a bad idea...^^

Oooooh!! Great idea! You don't mind if I steal it, do ya?

Clones!!

Some pretty neat rumors here.

Bumblebee21 wrote:Why would Galvatron be rereleased

Same way Voyager Motormaster and Onslaught were rereleased in Combiner Wars. Its just a way to keep toys on the shelf without making new toys. Only 6 voyagers got released in 2015, but it seems 2016 has gotten 7 voyagers.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Deluxe Class
Quake
Krok
Topspin
Sergeant Kup
Perceptor

You are missing a few here no? Like pounce, wingspan, iron apex, Nautica, fastlane, cloud raker.

steals_your_goats wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I believe Legends Brawn was debunked as a communication error.

It hasn't been debunked anymore than it's been confirmed. The miscommunication thing was speculation

My speculation, to be exact I'll believe it when I see it. But I do hope for it, I wouldnt mind more Brawn and the fact that we are seeing the same charactes appear in multiple classes means nothing is off the table.

Kurona wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:As far As the box set rumors go every rumor that's been released so far is here http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/1046898-transmissions-podcast-titan-wars-leaks-rumors.html and the strength and speed rumors are at the episode 157 point and goes down. The post says they're lines but when listening to the actual podcast it's unclear how they're being released, box set makes the most sense to me though. They also talk about a Voyager optimus in the speed set but I think that too is a mistake.

Wait, it says items 3-5 + Voyager Prime. Nautica is listed as item 6.

Yeah that was the transcriber messing up. When Nautica was first rumored they said she was part of the speed set. When they talked about her again they just talked about mold choice and I think he forgot she was apart of the set. They never revised the rumor saying she was a stand alone figure.

I wonder if Titan Master Optimus Prime will be coming with a vehicle that looks like Roller? If so I might have to get that.

steals_your_goats wrote:

Kurona wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:As far As the box set rumors go every rumor that's been released so far is here http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/1046898-transmissions-podcast-titan-wars-leaks-rumors.html and the strength and speed rumors are at the episode 157 point and goes down. The post says they're lines but when listening to the actual podcast it's unclear how they're being released, box set makes the most sense to me though. They also talk about a Voyager optimus in the speed set but I think that too is a mistake.

Wait, it says items 3-5 + Voyager Prime. Nautica is listed as item 6.

Yeah that was the transcriber messing up. When Nautica was first rumored they said she was part of the speed set. When they talked about her again they just talked about mold choice and I think he forgot she was apart of the set. They never revised the rumor saying she was a stand alone figure.

Dammit. Guess I'm not getting Nautica for a while then...

Kurona wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Kurona wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:As far As the box set rumors go every rumor that's been released so far is here http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/1046898-transmissions-podcast-titan-wars-leaks-rumors.html and the strength and speed rumors are at the episode 157 point and goes down. The post says they're lines but when listening to the actual podcast it's unclear how they're being released, box set makes the most sense to me though. They also talk about a Voyager optimus in the speed set but I think that too is a mistake.

Wait, it says items 3-5 + Voyager Prime. Nautica is listed as item 6.

Yeah that was the transcriber messing up. When Nautica was first rumored they said she was part of the speed set. When they talked about her again they just talked about mold choice and I think he forgot she was apart of the set. They never revised the rumor saying she was a stand alone figure.

Dammit. Guess I'm not getting Nautica for a while then...

I mean I could be wrong and the strength and speed sets are just fun names for waves, but it doesn't seem likely. They're one deluxe short, there's only one Voyager one titan master and no legends figures. Plus with all the other rumors this line would have to be a full two years to fit everything.

steals_your_goats wrote:Plus with all the other rumors this line would have to be a full two years to fit everything.

That is the main point that has me believing these are both sets like the Combiner Wars stuff. Hopefulyl the price will be more along the lines of those and not the platinum kind. This just means i will hold off getting PMOP.

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Plus with all the other rumors this line would have to be a full two years to fit everything.

That is the main point that has me believing these are both sets like the Combiner Wars stuff. Hopefulyl the price will be more along the lines of those and not the platinum kind. This just means i will hold off getting PMOP.

I'd assume the sets would be around $120 USD.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:When you say it like that, it sounds terrible. But these aren't the higher end collectibles of Botcon. It's like a big box of characters at around their combined retail price. That just stinks to me

Just to be clear, Botcon are not higher end collectibles, at least not more than any other toy of the same mold with a decent deco. Its a word I would use more for Masterpiece figures which are higher end in quality, detail, parts count ect. I have Botcon toys and they arent more impressive than others I own. The only reason they cost more is because they are licensed to a third party company (fun pub) which doestn make use of economies of scale. The price only works with the demand, but if there is no demand, the price will go down. Depthcharge was going for less than any retail deluxe figure.

I'm guessing Cosmos is retooled to hold a Headmaster like Wheelie and Bumblebee Doo. Seaspray too.

Nik Hero wrote:I'm guessing Cosmos is retooled to hold a Headmaster like Wheelie and Bumblebee Doo. Seaspray too.

Yeah, I think so too. And I think that Ramhorn and Shuffler will share similar tooling (rhinos and elephants)

Kurona wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:Why would Galvatron be rereleased

It's just what Hasbro does for different waves. For instance, the recent Wave 2 has their Leader class be made up of Soundwave and a Powermaster Prime re-release. Fills up the assortments.



I really hope that boxset thing is fake. I don't want to have to get two more deluxes, a voyager and a frikkin' leader just to get Nautica, especially when I couldn't care less about Quickswitch and the autobot clones. I'm sure they'll be great toys, but I'm kind of on a budget and want to prioritise MTMTE. If they're really gonna do this I'm actually gonna be a little angry.

Maybe it will have the new crown the prototype had

Bumblebee21 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:Why would Galvatron be rereleased

It's just what Hasbro does for different waves. For instance, the recent Wave 2 has their Leader class be made up of Soundwave and a Powermaster Prime re-release. Fills up the assortments.



I really hope that boxset thing is fake. I don't want to have to get two more deluxes, a voyager and a frikkin' leader just to get Nautica, especially when I couldn't care less about Quickswitch and the autobot clones. I'm sure they'll be great toys, but I'm kind of on a budget and want to prioritise MTMTE. If they're really gonna do this I'm actually gonna be a little angry.

Maybe it will have the new crown the prototype had

Very doubtful. It's just a rerelease to fill out the case assortments like Hasbro's been doing for years; don't look into it too much.

william-james88 wrote:A seperate post for a seperate idea. This interview has John Warden state that the whole concept of retools has changed since CW. Now they plan the whole line out and see what they can do. So its no longer putting new heads on the same body (aside from when its exactly that). And I like how he uses the word pretool, which means its part of the Hasbro lexicon now. You can see that at the 2 minute mark. Personally, I much preffer the idea of parts sharing to make different figures rather than have a main mold that is then retooled.

Fascinating. The Classics-style line has definitely shifted in the last few years in terms of design, and I definitely don't think it's a bad thing. If you had told me a few years ago we were going to get proper combiners that look good, Headmasters, and bots that transformed into things other than cars and jets, I'd have called you crazy. It never seemed like Combiners were on the radar, even after the Powercore Combiners and Fall of Cybertron figures, which never looked quite right. And it always seemed that in order for them to go to market with a figure, it had to be recognizable as a car or a jet or other vehicle - having Blaster and Soundwave actually look like cassette players seemed to be off the table, and more "alien"-looking alt modes were shifted toward more Earthlike designs.

Figures have also gotten simpler (yet still solid) transformations in the last few years, and I think that's partly down to planning out retools such that the figures can look different but transform the same way with swapped parts.

Overall, I think planning things out a little more has improved the figures and selection of figures we're getting. I'd love to see them go back to some of the original Classics and Universe figures and redo some of them (Prowl/Smokescreen/Bluestreak and Ironhide/Ratchet leap to mind, even if they were part of Combiner Wars).

Bumblebee21 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:Why would Galvatron be rereleased

It's just what Hasbro does for different waves. For instance, the recent Wave 2 has their Leader class be made up of Soundwave and a Powermaster Prime re-release. Fills up the assortments.

Maybe it will have the new crown the prototype had

The second release of Combiner Wars Onslaught did not come with anything different. This will just be another chance to get Galvatron especially since he is proving very popular right now, regardless of the gimmick. Its just stocking the wave with older toys. Like this upcoming wave:



As you can tell, there is nothing new about any of the toys being rereleased

OR this:

Wave 6:


Wave 5:


Dont expect anything different from Galvatron.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Noideaforaname wrote:That Cosmos annoys me because of this whole trend of re-making guys they just did already, but at the same time he's the one I'm most interested in seeing...

But it also means another chance for a solo retail Scrounge

Which wasn't even a great figure cause it no resemblance of scrounge other than a sphere like shape and his head the mold is great but only for cosmos not scournge

Starsaber468 wrote:wasn't even a great figure

Let me stop you right there. I've had the box set for almost two weeks now, and Scrounge is an awesome little dude, and is one of my favorites of the set (second only to Strafe).

Besides, Scrounge transformed into a wheel, and Hasbro wouldn't be caught dead making a figure of that. The Cosmos mold is the best choice, given that you can prop it up sideways and it looks close enough to Scrounge's original wheel form. Plus, his new head is awesome.

Wheel based Transforming Characters do not seem to bother Bandai they have made several over the last 2 or 3 decades.

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I hope the Optimus Prime is a new design with a cute little truck vehicle - to ride in.

Ideally with a Unique head - either one that matches the colours of other toys with a different face plate or no face plate, or some other useful design like Cybertron style head or Star Convoy style head. something with some use to it - also the weapon mode would look decent when held by a larger Optimus Hopefully.

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I think the clones idea is a great one - it's a shame that the name reuse would step on other characters toes or the Brainstorm design might also work OK for animated Jetfire & Jetstorm homages too.

But yeah the Clone idea is a good one and one I've liked ever since it first popped up.

Autobot N wrote:Besides, Scrounge transformed into a wheel, and Hasbro wouldn't be caught dead making a figure of that.

I beg to differ, Hasbro has made a ton of figures that turned into random circles.


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william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Besides, Scrounge transformed into a wheel, and Hasbro wouldn't be caught dead making a figure of that.

I beg to differ, Hasbro has made a ton of figures that turned into random circles.

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Except that they were shaped that way because of a gimmick. The Mini-Cons could be used with the Deployers, and the Data Disks could be put inside Soundwave and Blaster. Scrounge is just a wheel, with nothing for him to interact with (besides his special arm, as there is no other like it).

Kurona wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Kurona wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:As far As the box set rumors go every rumor that's been released so far is here http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/1046898-transmissions-podcast-titan-wars-leaks-rumors.html and the strength and speed rumors are at the episode 157 point and goes down. The post says they're lines but when listening to the actual podcast it's unclear how they're being released, box set makes the most sense to me though. They also talk about a Voyager optimus in the speed set but I think that too is a mistake.

Wait, it says items 3-5 + Voyager Prime. Nautica is listed as item 6.

Yeah that was the transcriber messing up. When Nautica was first rumored they said she was part of the speed set. When they talked about her again they just talked about mold choice and I think he forgot she was apart of the set. They never revised the rumor saying she was a stand alone figure.

Dammit. Guess I'm not getting Nautica for a while then...

Nor Minerva!

Anyone got any theories on how DECEPTICON clones can be done ?
with the same mould family ?

Wolfwire is OK for turning into a pussy cat - but I'm wondering could they do an extensive retool of teh two headed dragon mould perhaps ?

Otherwise it seem more like the clones wouldn't be the same mould family - which is sort of the point of the clones really.