Transformers Kingdom Leader Class Galvatron Comparisons

Sabrblade wrote:I think I've figured out what's bothering me about this figure's proportions. It's head and shoulder pylons are too large compared to the rest of the body.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Overcracker wrote:I think I'll wait for the inevitable dark grey repaint. Netflix Spoiler pack or something.

Already leaked for Selects

Overcracker wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Overcracker wrote:I think I'll wait for the inevitable dark grey repaint. Netflix Spoiler pack or something.

Already leaked for Selects

Really?

Are there any pics?

Munkky wrote:Jon Warden; "Ugh, fine, we'll do Le Monke. But I'm putting most of these 86 Movie toys I have planned in Studio Series."

Executives; "Excellent." *Goes back to watching Harambe videos*

Sabrblade wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Overcracker wrote:I think I'll wait for the inevitable dark grey repaint. Netflix Spoiler pack or something.

Already leaked for Selects

Really?

Are there any pics?

Nope, just text.

Overcracker wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Overcracker wrote:I think I'll wait for the inevitable dark grey repaint. Netflix Spoiler pack or something.

Already leaked for Selects

Really?

Are there any pics?

Nope, just text.

That's sad.

Will wait for the Selects reveal.

ZeroWolf wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:TFW has updated pics and yep, Im just gonna wait for the next one, maybe SS86s fifth or seventh wave will have a decent Galvatron.

If you want to play that game, compare TR Astrotrain with Siege Astrotrain. TR is much taller but he's paper thin. Siege is much more THICC and his train mode is MASSIVE even without the tender.

It will be the same thing with this Galvatron.

If SS86 is truly supposed to be about the celebration of TF:TM 35th, then I don't anticipate it going beyond this year, and would be surprised if there were any more than 3 waves of it specifically. I have relented on rejecting the idea, although I still think it is dumb that Kingdom & SS are sharing toys from TF:TM (there will be no overlap), but, it is what it is I guess...

The only reason there is a SS86 line is because of Beast Wars, so why would there be any overlap anyway?

Lore Keeper wrote:That's a nice voyager!

What? That's a leader? Oh. Oh dear...

Rodimus Prime wrote: I'm a big G1 comic fan, though, so I'll definitely get the Selects version.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote: I'm a big G1 comic fan, though, so I'll definitely get the Selects version.

G1 Comics Galvatron is G1 TOY colored?

o.supreme wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:The only reason there is a SS86 line is because of Beast Wars, so why would there be any overlap anyway?

That is the point I am making. Some fans still don't understand that SS86 are just Kingdom toys that had to be shifted to another line for *budget reasons*. Case In point- the person hoping for a *Better* Galvatron in SS86. Most of us understand what is taking place with these lines in this calendar year, but not everybody does.

Basically there are 3 types of people.

1. Most fan here who understand what is going on, and are ok with it.

2. Fans who don't understand the purpose of the SS86 line, (thinking/hoping some characters will have representation in both Kingdom and SS86)

3. And people like myself (or I could be the only one for all I know) who understand it, but just think it was a poor decision on Hasbro's part.

AcademyofDrX wrote:I don't think anyone promised that all of the Dinobots in Leader class in SS86, just that they were all coming. There will be other toy lines in other years and I imagine that'll include a new Galvatron, but I would not bet on a new mold in SS86 by 2023.

NeonPrime wrote:Ugh...the battle damage and paint on the translucent cannon are AWFUL and DISTRACTING!!! I didn't need those "lil touches" to justify the Leader Class pricing Hasbro. Whatta waste. That said, I'm genuinely happy with the figure. Galvatron's size and girth make him a formidable foe. I was worried he'd be dwarfed compared to Magnus. Still hoping Open and Play or another 3rd party will clean him up and do a proper leader figure.

Sabrblade wrote:I think there might be some precedent for SS86 lasting longer than just this anniversary year in that the Studio Series line itself began in celebration of the first live action movie's 10th anniversary (albeit, one year late, but the first movie and its toyline were still HUGE in 2008, along with that being the year of the movie's Blu-Ray release), yet the line continued to produce more and more Movie 1 figures even after 2018 came and went.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:That's a nice voyager!

What? That's a leader? Oh. Oh dear...

I know, right? He's the same size as TR Galvatron! He looks thicker, so that's probably why he costs so much, but height-wise he looks to be between Optimus and Ultra Magnus. Do he'll be larger than Prime and scale well with Magnus. I'm glad to see his chest isn't as high as it first appeared. The battle damage still looks like crap, though. This will be an in-hand decision. I'm a big G1 comic fan, though, so I'll definitely get the Selects version.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

aronjlove wrote:Ok, yeah, I guess it works.

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It's funny that all of that has to come off so Huffer can tow Prime's trailer. At least the kibble isn't necessary for alt-mode like Warpath's shield.

I'm glad his flatter mode is the default, as my collection prioritizes the G1 cartoon and toy designs. I'll put his accessories in a bag and probably leave them there forever, just like I've done with Siege Astrotrain and Jetfire.

cruizerdave wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Re: The new Galvatron pics... Whatever.

What we actually need is a pic of him and Rodimus Prime standing straight up, and side by side (also a better height comparison of Rodimus Prime). That is what will determine whether they're worthwhile, or whether one or even both is/are a worthless waste of money, development time, and plastic that needs to be scrapped and redone. Galvatron could turn out too big, but at least in his case there's the Titans Return figure. If Rodimus (who has no such fallback) turns out too small, which that comparison with the undersize WFC Optimus (who everybody is too dazzled by the looks of IMO) has me worried might be the case the case... I'm going to be pissed.

I'm going to tell you right now so that you're not disappointed.
Rodimus is a voyager class figure being sold at the commander class price point. Yes, he has his little pop up base that will never be used, but they're pulling the ol' "throw some extra crap in the box so we can up the price point" crap on us.

So no matter how he scales, he'll be a rip off. We're being sold a $30-$40 toy for $90 to $100.

In a way, it's our fault. We bought into the small deluxe Hot Rot being sold at the voyager class price. And as good as the figure is, it still has some flaws, but they packed in a Matrix that can't be put in his chest and a pizza cutter, so now you're paying $10 extra.

The Galvatron will be a voyager class figure sold at the leader class price point, using the justification that he comes with two space ship guns or whatever.

AcademyofDrX wrote:There's way too much salt in this thread, is this the new Unicron thread? I loved the Prime Wars trilogy, but I'm a sucker for play features and ease of transformation, where most collectors want pretty robots that look like the cartoon. Now here we are with Kingdom and SS86, with the most screen-accurate likenesses that Generations has ever seen, and there's still plenty to complain about. Maybe I'm just an easy mark, every figure they release I'm like, I love it, best toy ever, gimme.

Flashwave wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:That's a nice voyager!

What? That's a leader? Oh. Oh dear...

I know, right? He's the same size as TR Galvatron! He looks thicker, so that's probably why he costs so much, but height-wise he looks to be between Optimus and Ultra Magnus. Do he'll be larger than Prime and scale well with Magnus. I'm glad to see his chest isn't as high as it first appeared. The battle damage still looks like crap, though. This will be an in-hand decision. I'm a big G1 comic fan, though, so I'll definitely get the Selects version.

I started to have that thought too, but look closer: TR Galvatron is nearly the same sizeas the Magnus and Beast Megs shown in the picture, so he is a huge (and mostly hollow) Vpyager. I eould be more upset if Galvatron was same sized as the white Prime part of Mags, but he's not.

Munkky wrote:If I had to guess, I'd say maybe three or four waves in total, that would cover the majority of movie characters we're not getting in Kingdom. I remember hearing leaks about Voyager Swoop, Starscream (though this was a while ago so they may have been talking about Bumblebee Movie Starscream), a Sweep and a Junkion. After those we're pretty much covered, unless you want to go really abstract like a Prowl with orange light piping and smoke effects you can attach to his eyes and mouth.

Autobot N wrote:

Munkky wrote:If I had to guess, I'd say maybe three or four waves in total, that would cover the majority of movie characters we're not getting in Kingdom. I remember hearing leaks about Voyager Swoop, Starscream (though this was a while ago so they may have been talking about Bumblebee Movie Starscream), a Sweep and a Junkion. After those we're pretty much covered, unless you want to go really abstract like a Prowl with orange light piping and smoke effects you can attach to his eyes and mouth.

We're also getting the rest of the Dinobots (save Slash, but that's to be expected, as much as I want her) as Leaders. And yes, 86 Starscream and Bumblebee Starscream are different figures.

Chriphord wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

Munkky wrote:If I had to guess, I'd say maybe three or four waves in total, that would cover the majority of movie characters we're not getting in Kingdom. I remember hearing leaks about Voyager Swoop, Starscream (though this was a while ago so they may have been talking about Bumblebee Movie Starscream), a Sweep and a Junkion. After those we're pretty much covered, unless you want to go really abstract like a Prowl with orange light piping and smoke effects you can attach to his eyes and mouth.

We're also getting the rest of the Dinobots (save Slash, but that's to be expected, as much as I want her) as Leaders. And yes, 86 Starscream and Bumblebee Starscream are different figures.

Would they just be re-releasing ER Starscream under the 86 or release a new mold? I can't imagine them having two different molds of the same iteration of a character at the same time even if they are under different toylines. And if they were to release a Screamer under that line, I would imagine they would have to make it a leader due to the coronation getup being required.

AcademyofDrX wrote:I don't think anyone promised that all of the Dinobots in Leader class in SS86, just that they were all coming. There will be other toy lines in other years and I imagine that'll include a new Galvatron, but I would not bet on a new mold in SS86 by 2023.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I can only speak for myself, but I don’t think there have been that many complaints about Galvatron. I don’t consider someone pointing out things that look off to be complaining.
I also don’t consider it complaining when someone explains why they don’t have any interest.
My critique doesn’t completely take away from my excitement for this figure... It’s not all or nothing.

I think it’s very possible that SS86 could continue beyond this year, even if just for a bit.
I won’t be shocked if it doesn’t, but as far as I can tell & have heard, this isn’t exactly a line that’s put out a bunch of pegwarmers. No one ever agrees with everything Hastak does, & yeah, sometimes there are seemingly questionable decisions... But for the most part they know what they’re doing. And I’d say I his line is evidence.
No, I don’t know for sure, but sales have to be at least decent.
If the banner doesn’t continue, I could see something totally new being born because of SS86. Even a sub-line that is considered part of a new Generations line.

Here’s what I’m hoping for past Kingdom:
A Generations line that dips into different series; updates for more BW, Cybertron, & Armada, & even BMachines... Instead of keeping the SS86 line going, 1 maybe 2 G1 characters per wave that are made purely based on cartoon/movie accuracy (with no gimmicks), carrying on the quality of SS86.
Now do I think this is realistic? Ehhhhhhh... Who knows.

Otherwise, I see another line based on a gimmick...
Which is cool I guess, just means I’ll take another hiatus & consider adding to my MP collection.

Autobot N wrote:(save Slash, but that's to be expected, as much as I want her)

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Autobot N wrote:(save Slash, but that's to be expected, as much as I want her)

Well she was a velociraptor, right? So would you be satisfied with a red and gray Kingdom Dinobot with a new head? That wouldn't be much of a stretch for Hasbro. Highly doubtful, though.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Autobot N wrote:(save Slash, but that's to be expected, as much as I want her)

Well she was a velociraptor, right? So would you be satisfied with a red and gray Kingdom Dinobot with a new head? That wouldn't be much of a stretch for Hasbro. Highly doubtful, though.

She wasn't in TFTM.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Autobot N wrote:(save Slash, but that's to be expected, as much as I want her)

Well she was a velociraptor, right? So would you be satisfied with a red and gray Kingdom Dinobot with a new head? That wouldn't be much of a stretch for Hasbro. Highly doubtful, though.

Autobot N wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Autobot N wrote:(save Slash, but that's to be expected, as much as I want her)

Well she was a velociraptor, right? So would you be satisfied with a red and gray Kingdom Dinobot with a new head? That wouldn't be much of a stretch for Hasbro. Highly doubtful, though.

My preference would be a ER Cliffjumper-style deluxe, maybe with some extra accessories like Grimlock's sword to pad it out a bit. Never gonna happen, though.

Autobot N wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Autobot N wrote:(save Slash, but that's to be expected, as much as I want her)

Well she was a velociraptor, right? So would you be satisfied with a red and gray Kingdom Dinobot with a new head? That wouldn't be much of a stretch for Hasbro. Highly doubtful, though.

My preference would be a ER Cliffjumper-style deluxe, maybe with some extra accessories like Grimlock's sword to pad it out a bit. Never gonna happen, though.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Autobot N wrote:(save Slash, but that's to be expected, as much as I want her)

Well she was a velociraptor, right? So would you be satisfied with a red and gray Kingdom Dinobot with a new head? That wouldn't be much of a stretch for Hasbro. Highly doubtful, though.

My preference would be a ER Cliffjumper-style deluxe, maybe with some extra accessories like Grimlock's sword to pad it out a bit. Never gonna happen, though.

Slash and Paddles (or G1-ified Scorn ) Leader Two-pack would be a dream come true for me, as would a Deluxe / Voyager Payload be in SS.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Autobot N wrote:(save Slash, but that's to be expected, as much as I want her)

Well she was a velociraptor, right? So would you be satisfied with a red and gray Kingdom Dinobot with a new head? That wouldn't be much of a stretch for Hasbro. Highly doubtful, though.

She wasn't in TFTM.

So? Neither was Snarl, right?

o.supreme wrote:Also, as much as people don't want to believe, there has been no guarantee yet that All the Dinobots will be released.

Munkky wrote:.On topic of Kingdom, Kapow Toys have agreed to take back the Ractonite they mistakenly sent to me and swap it for the Airazor I actually ordered, but I don't have a printer to print off the returns label, and my post office "don't have the facilities" to print it even though their website says they should, so I'm going through a loooooot of hassle for someone else's mistake.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Also, as much as people don't want to believe, there has been no guarantee yet that All the Dinobots will be released.

Sad truth.

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Also, as much as people don't want to believe, there has been no guarantee yet that All the Dinobots will be released.

Sad truth.

Didn't one leak say doing the whole team in scale was the whole point?

Emerje